Re: NWFP to be renamed says Durrani!
They should have a referandum and settle this that way... Let the people decide.
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Also, most Pakhtuns in NWFP are practical people, and realise that like Punjab and Sindh a more geographical name that is acceptable to all inhabitant groups is the better option.
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Sometimes referundums arent the best options, especially considering you are talking about ethnic minorities, who would want some sort of representation too, and a dominent majority might make that impossible. Its like saying do a referundum in 1947 in United India to determine if Pakistan is to be built or not.
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It is a historical fact that pashtuns of N.w.F.P are more related to Afghanistan than indian subcontinent. Pashtuns and Afghans are two names of a one nation. Tajiks and uzbeks are not afghans ,they are called so because they live in afghanisatn. They have their separate countries tajikisatn and uzbekisatn which are not afghan countries.
First of all we all pakistanis should accept that pashtuns are also afghans. History can not be changed and those who will read the history in deep will understand that all present day pashtun tribes in pakistan have migrated from present day afghanisatn. We are deprived of afghan identity when pakisatn came into being in 1947. If one reads all district gazzetairs of N.w.F.P , he will find that pashtun tribes like yousafzais,afridis, marwats,wazirs are written afghan tribes by british. Infact British separated the region from punjab because pashtuns were not related to punjabies at all .( before punjab N.W.F.P was part of afghanistan).
One should not assume that i am an agent from afghanistan. Although afghanistan is not our motherland but we a place for it in our hearts .We are interested in affairs of afghanistan as muhajirs are in interested in affairs of india. it is the first time in history that we are loyal to a country ( pakisatn).We are not loyals to mughals who were also muslims like we pakistanis.those non-pashtuns who object at of renaming N.W.F.P to pakhtunistn are probably fearing that pashtuns are not loyal to pakistan and might separate from pakistan.
There is a single magority in N.W.F.P i.e pashtuns. We have the right to rename our province to afghania, pakhtunistan or pakhtunkhwa. 74 % is very large population , you just cant give option of renaming province to other minorities like hinkowans, serakies, chitralis, kohistanis,... because all these minorites are hetrogenous .
Chitral and hazara region are related pashtuns and afghans. Chitral was not part of kashmir but it was in afghanistan and handed over to british by it along with tribal areas and baluchistan. Chitralis are realted to nurisatan province of afghanisatn. Hazara region was occupied by afghan tribes of jadoon ,tareens and tanolis some centuries ago. hazara is same as mianwali and attock, i.e dominated by non pashto speaking pathans but following pashtunwali.
Hindkowans from peshawar are different from hazara people. They are not original people of peshawar as they claim. they are called kharains that is people of city. if they are original people why they are not present in peshawar villages. Original people of peshawar were long ago absorbed by pashtuns or driven to punjab. These hinkowans are descendents of those punjabies who came along with ranjeet singh forces and settled in peshawar.
Re: NWFP to be renamed says Durrani!
^^ Oh shut tfu. Your historical knowledge of Pashtun relations, and Ranjit Singh is so outdated. Genetics has solved a lot. You should look at the social and cultural forum for more recent information. But I doubt it would make any difference to you.
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Why is it that Afghan's tend to dream a lot about Pakistan's destruction? Specifically, things that they can NOT do in any case. I actually want them to try to take sarhad from us. It will be an escuse to bomb the hell out of the Afghan's.
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I have been saying that for some time… The Pak govt is concerned that if they name the province Pakhtunistan, it will reignite the whole seperatist nationalist sentament.. But this just speaks volumes of the govt distrust for its people… If the govt of Pakistan cant trust the Pashtuns of Pakistan to support the country with just a name change, then Pakistan has lost the province already.
The other ewason is that it changing the name to Pakhtunistan or Afghania may signal a victory to Afghanistan which has been fueling the nationalist sentiment in NWFP for over 50 years in one way or another. In this case, the Afghans need to stop meddling in the Pakistan and formenting trouble on its western border.
The other thing that is also true is that Punjab and Sindh are not names of ethnicities but geographical regions that have come to be associated with ethnicites, although the tribe of Punjab and Sindh are of varying descent.
Still, I personally think the provincial name is the NWFPs own concern, and I dont see any problems arrising from giving the majority the name they want.
The ethnicity question is a little strange… Afghanistan is a country, made up of many different ethnicities, its simply a country like Pakistan, made of of different groups… Your Identity is Pashtun, your nationality cant be your ethnicity… It like saying Black Americans are ethnicaly America.!.
Re: NWFP to be renamed says Durrani!
I'd wager he's sitting in a delhi toilet, or he's some Western raised knob with no experience of South and South West Asia barely able to speak some broken dialect of Farsi
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In case this news is not printed in Kabul or Delhi or whereever you are.
The name “Khyber” is the choice of the majority of people who participated in an online opinion poll over the issue of changing the existing name of Pakistan’s Islamist-ruled North West Frontier Province.
That is a poll conducted by the Pashtun-dominated NWFP government btw.
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The new name will be hard for me to pronounce - they should name it as phatan-is-tan its easier...
by the way do phatans speak Pooshtu or phatani? i say its phatani, a fake phatan friend of mine (fake because he doenst speak nor understand his language) says its pooshtu - can you help, who is right me or him?
Re: NWFP to be renamed says Durrani!
its pushto
Re: NWFP to be renamed says Durrani!
Aray Silly Baji - rather than wasting time deciding what the new names should be, I believe people of Pakistan could use their time better by deciding whether buses should have music or not?
Anyway, it won’t be long before NWFP would be part of ‘Afghanistan’; Balochistan would be part of ‘Iran’; Sindh will be part of ‘India’; and Punjab, well Punjab can stay Punjab 
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Fittay moonh aap ka, laanat aap ki shakal pe. Shakal achi naheen hai to baat to achi kar lo. 
Why would we want to be with Afghanistan? That place will remain a sh!thole for the rest of our lives and keep deteriorating after us, no thanks we don’t want our children to be part that bomb-infested barren desert with no future, they’ll just keep killing each other till destruction and blame others, we don’t want that for our future generations, Pakistan is the best option for all of us..
Why would Baluchistan be part of Iran? There’s more Pashtuns in Baluchistan than Baluchis and Iranians are racist to Baluchis anyway, even Iranian Baluchis.. Indians, who wants to be with them hanuman ki nasals?
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Whats funny is the supposed online poll is a handful of anonymous posters on the NWFP gov web site 
Re: NWFP to be renamed says Durrani!
Would you accept anything besides Pakhtunistan or Afghania for the province?
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We always fear separation whenever we talk of granting provincial autonomy, and other rights. We dont see the most developing nations of the world are those enjoying provincial autonomy. Then I reach the conclusion that we are so adamant for not granting the autonomy and other legitimate rights to the smaller provinces, because that is inimical to the interest of Punjab. We have linked the prosperity of Pakistan with the prosperity of Punjab. And obviously provincial autonomy means depriving Punjab from its dominating role of grabbing the resources of other provinces.
This stupid mentality has given birth to Punjab bashing sentiments in the smaller provinces. The poor Punjabi may not be aware of as how the other races feel about him. If we want a stronger Pakistan we need to cave in to the demands of the nationalists and treat all Pakistanis equally regardless of their ethnic affiliations.
Wali Khan joined hands with Nawaz Sharif with one condition only and that was to change the name of the province but all the hopes from a Punjabi PM extinguished when he betrayed Wali Khan because of the resistance from some his prejudice Punjabi politicians.
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Now NWFP CM is looking for a non-controversial name change.
NWFP PA urged to call meeting on renaming province
NWFP Chief Minister Akram Khan Durrani on Thursday said that NWFP Assembly has been urged to call a meeting of all parliamentary parties to suggest an uncontroversial name for the province. Inaugurating a security control room in the Cantonment area, the chief minister said that the meeting would propose an uncontroversial and undisputed name for the province in line with the aspirations of its people. He said that the law department had done enough work on renaming the province and there were some legal complications on which discussion was under way. He said the services of a prominent lawyer, Abdul Hafiz Pirzada, have been hired to select an undisputed name for the province in line with the aspirations of the people.