Re: NWFP govt. proposes to rename the province to
Now the moderator will accelarate my warning level to millions as anything against the other ethnicity is OK but not against the elite class.
Re: NWFP govt. proposes to rename the province to
Now the moderator will accelarate my warning level to millions as anything against the other ethnicity is OK but not against the elite class.
You know! It saddens me to see you in the garb (nick) of a great man. He was Asman (higher than stars) while you are fishing in the sewage infested waters of racial and ethnic hatred.
Go ahead put your blabbering on the net, but at least quit using the name of a great man Khushal Baba. His soul must be sending bad dua for you.
FATA has to be changed to get its people out of the draconian FCR! If people there do not want to ruled by Peshawar, then give them their own government, and make it their own province.
How many areas in Punjab, Sindh, or Balochistan have $tupid Federal rule called FCR (Frontier struck with a Cream Roll you know where)?
Re: NWFP govt. proposes to rename the province to
You know! It saddens me to see you in the garb (nick) of a great man. He was Asman (higher than stars) while you are fishing in the sewage infested waters of racial and ethnic hatred.
Go ahead put your blabbering on the net, but at least quit using the name of a great man Khushal Baba. His soul must be sending bad dua for you.
FATA has to be changed to get its people out of the draconian FCR! If people there do not want to ruled by Peshawar, then give them their own government, and make it their own province.
How many areas in Punjab, Sindh, or Balochistan have $tupid Federal rule called FCR (Frontier struck with a Cream Roll you know where)?
Didn't you call the Pakhtun tribals "depraved" in another thread? Fishing in the sewage infested waters of racial and ethnic hatred, indeed.
Re: NWFP govt. proposes to rename the province to
what is the A in Pakistan for again?
A stands for afghanistan. and K for Kashmir. By the way, whats wrong with Afghania? If the US can have New Mexico, why can't Pakistan have New Afghanistan or whatever- aakhir woh humaarey bhai hain.
Re: NWFP govt. proposes to rename the province to
You know! It saddens me to see you in the garb (nick) of a great man. He was Asman (higher than stars) while you are fishing in the sewage infested waters of racial and ethnic hatred.
Go ahead put your blabbering on the net, but at least quit using the name of a great man Khushal Baba. His soul must be sending bad dua for you.
My God who is telling me all this?
Go and see your thread about the name of FATA, or you and your friends have the license to redicule others and have got the stamp to label others as racist.
What a good Pakistani you and your friends are, we dont need India to destroy us.
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I think they should rename both Punjab and NWFP as Afghanistan. It will make Punjabis like moin happy and Pashtuns happy as well.
O bhai, Punjab Pakistan da dil ai!!! Pakistan - Punjab = zero. Punjab defines Pakistan like Texas does America. Punjab thinkers and intellectuals have defined the future of Pakistan. Punjab was the center of Aryan settlement. Afghans intellectuals are our guide but they are separate entity.
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One of the most annoying things is that this has become a Pashtun natonalist cause when it should be a local issue... The naming of the province should be left up to the province itself and not to the National assembly...
So long as its reasonable, the province and its people should decide what the name of the province should be without having to resort to the federal govt...
This is really no concern of us on this forum as most of us arent from NWFP... It should remain a local issue for Pashtuns to deal with.
Pakistan is just way to centralized...
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I really hope they keep the name to N.W.F. P.
The NWFP provincial government obviously has no brains...
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NWFP is not really a "name", its merely a descriptive abbreviation "North West Frontier Province", where "Frontier" is perhaps the name but then it doesn't really mean anything/representative of that province, also this term "NWFP" is used in English but its called "Sarhad" in Urdu.
Re: NWFP govt. proposes to rename the province to
I really hope they keep the name to N.W.F. P. The NWFP provincial government obviously has no brains...
Why? It's a stupid name.
Re: NWFP govt. proposes to rename the province to
I really hope they keep the name to N.W.F. P. The NWFP provincial government obviously has no brains...
Kiyoon.. ? Can you not be lil imaginative. ? I would day "PashtoonPind" would be a good name.
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Man, does this thread wreak of ignorance. Why the insecurity people, afraid another Bangladesh might be coming around the corner? It seems that if the non-Punjabi and non-Urdu people of Pakistan take some pride in their culture and do not submit to ethnic cleansing, they are automatically coniving nationalists who want independence.
Pashtuns chose to be apart of Pakistan, they can leave if they wish; however, they choose to be apart of the nation and are just as patriotic as any other Pakistani. But contrary to the beliefs of many misinformed individuals on this board, the Pashtuns are not a dhoti nation. I won't use the term "rape," but for anyone who knows something about South Asian history, it was the Afghans that fought, struggled, and maintained their independence while it was their neighbours to the East that lifted up their dhotis and bent over, and then lifted up their womens' sari's to let one invader after the other impregnate them. Thus, we have the very diverse and colourful region of Northern India and Eastern Pakistan. I do appologize if I am being too graphic for some readers. I just thought that we be mature adults instead of playing the "istan" name game.
Anyway, Pashtuns are Afghans, and their are more in Pakistan than Afghanistan, so why not a province called Afghania? I think it suits the different ethnicities of the frontier and it makes a strong statement about its people and history.
As far as Afghanistan goes, trash talk all you want. Most of you know nothing about Afghanistan's glorious past, rich culture, and ancient civilization. Many North Indians can look toward Afghanistan for its immense contribution to Pakistani and Indian culture as a whole, and its particular influence on the Muslims of the land. Do understand that its current state, "dusty, poverty stricken, warlord-infested land," is a result of Pakistani, Arab, and American intervention. Today, that intervention is costing us a great deal and threatning the future of our nation. Pakistan created the Taliban, not it must reap what it sowed.
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^^ Are you pakistani if i mind asking?
About the rape comment, afghans didn't fare that better considering all armies had their first stop in afghanistan from central asia and even the civil war proved that afghans can sink to any depth in the eighties and nineties.
PS Afghans get what they deserve for being anti-Pakistan from day one [cast only vote against pakistan in UN] and support secessionist elements inside pakistan [even now] on russian and indian advice. I would ask people like moin what have afghans done for the formation of Pakistan; but I can tell you he won't know nothing since he himself has done nothing but bs his whole life. At the time the "indians" and "bengali" muslims were making sacrifices, moin pai was busy taking over the land that sikhs / hindus owned and was tilled by their "kammis". No wonder he has love for all afghan bastd hadharams who badmouth pakistan while trafficking heroin and smuggling into pakistan
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Thanks for questioning my nationality. Thats the issue in Pakistan, if someone expresses an opinion that is not conventional and not in the favour of the ruling elite and their ethnicities, their nationality is quickly questioned. If I was not Pakistani, I would'nt be here.
There is a difference between the psychology of our neighbours to the West and that of South Asians. For some reason, South Asian muslims are very proud of their foreign invaders. They take pride in stating that they are of Arab, Persian, Afghan...descent. If only it were true that millions of Middle Eastern and Central Asian people came and settled in the plains of North India. It is true that a small minority are actually descendants of foriegnors; however, the majority are the same people as their Hindu counterparts. Thats why you will notice that half of Karachi claims to be 'Khan' while the other half swears they are 'Syed'. The point is that Afghans are proud to be Afghans, they do not take pride in being the offspring of foreign invaders. It is true that many foreignors have tried to conquer Afghanistan, but no one has yet to have had a proper hold on the region. These people have fiercly protected their autonomy and let invaders pass through to South Asia; they did not let them capture their land and even when captured, it didn't last very long.
As far as your statement about Afghanistan "getting what it deserved", thats just another double standard. Yes, Afghanistan opposed Pakistan because they loaned their territory to the British. Then when British rule was coming to an end, the Frontier and Balochistan was given to Pakistan. Why wouldn't the Afghans be upset, they lost more than half of their territory, which was strategic because it left them completly landlocked. Its similar to how Pakistan has been fighting with India for Kashmir. Pakistan believes that it has a legitimate claim to Kashmir just as the Afghans have a legitimate claim to Western Pakistan. Stop the hatred and be a bit logical, the old excuses about how Afghans smuggle drugs and are "anti-pakistan" are useless. The drugs in Pakistan are there because the previous regimes allowed the Taliban and landlords to smuggle them in and ship it through our ports. Pakistan had a hand in destroying Afghanistan and today, the after-effects are destroying our country. Pakistan has always been more powerful, it abused that power.