I really hope to get some input about this. This forum seems to have the least traffic
Why do people like the awliya suggest reciting a certain durood 3000 times and guarantee that the purpose for which it is recited will be fulfilled and when it isn’t fulfilled how do you explain that. I read how someone heard durood tunajjina 3000 times is effective and she read it to pass her exam with a certain score range and didn’t make it. How do you explain that? You could say that maybe she didn’t study hard enough. Maybe. But what if she did? It’s not even just about durood; why do people say with such confidence that recite something x number of times and it’s a guarantee? Where does that yaqeen come from?
The awliya say durood Naariya is powerful and it’s implemented by various silsilas. But it might be effective for a wali or a very righteous person and not so much for the lesser, more sinful mortals.
Im not very religious, but I believe, that this has to do with faith and helplessness. For instance for any worldly wish/desire/need you put your effort in, like your friend appearing in exam, what she could do and had control over was the preparation...she did the best she could and gave the exam...Now after giving the exam it is not in her control to do anything about result....and in situations like these where you do not have any control over anything or are helpless, you turn to a higher entity and try praying, reciting or whatever to get your dream/wish come true...Same is the case for illness. If a loved one falls sick, you take them to hospital get them medical care and if god forbid things go out of control what you can do is just pray that your friend gets better.
It is faith that you have, which makes you go pray and make dua, whether it comes true or not is unknown to you. If it does religious and faithful people attribute it to their prayers and mercy of Allah, and the power of that wazeefa. If it doesnt they console themselves by believing it wasn't good for them and Allah is all knowing so whatever happened was for the best in long run. People who lack faith like myself attribute it to my lack of faith, to my lack of preparation and incorrect way of asking and my own mistakes and karma and other numerous things....
People do what they do, the awliya or anyone else for that matter can not provide any guarantee, they are dead or even if alive what can they refund? The time you spent praying, or the effort or the money or that dead person you prayed for? I don't understand how can someone provide a guarantee for an intangible or time critical thing.
I think its just a saying like do good and good things will come to you
^I've had duas fulfilled when I had a pessimistic attitude. I'm beginning to think that it's based more on qadr. If something is in your taqdeer, you'll get it no matter how lacking your yaqeen is. There are folks who desire something with wrong intentions and they end up getting what they want; it was in their taqdeer maybe. And if that's the case then is it right to think that a certain dhikr is soo powerful?
Einstein said … It is madness to do the same thing over and over again and not expecting the same result.
Seek Allah (SWT)'s help for what you do in the way you want it, if it is not delivered then ask again, but the next time you seek it change something in your heart or in your method or in your expectation … Otherwise it is madness.
I advise it is better to get the right prescription for you … We don’t take other people’s medicines do we? Did your friend get her prescrption from her Guide? You know some recitations are for patience but if recite them thinking they are for making our wishes true then we are lost … It is madness to pray for patience in qadr yet expect the wish to be granted.
If you truly think it is qadr then demonstrate that thought … Accept it … Nay, questioning otherwise would be madness … Tell yourself that.
But if you still think you can get it or deserve it then do works to obtain it or for something like it until your disarray is removed. To do the same thing over and over expecting a different result is madness.
To be a person of God create in yourself no desire for other than what He wills for you. I hope this theme does not continue … Solving riddles in your head regarding free will and Qadr is not going to solve your real issues.
Even I changed my style of post because what I said before didn’t have the effect it needed to have.
^ Not everyone has a guide. And let’s say you get a guide or a murshid, how often are the mureeds, especially the newbies, even able to get directly in touch with their guide? And the guides have made certain adhkaar “aam” for everyone. And even the long gone awliya made certain adhkaar aam for certain purposes and so that means that anyone can use it.
I have reflected upon my method of asking and I’ve made changes in my method. I just came upon this girl’s story and I’ve also come across folks saying I read the dhikr suggested by my guide but things are no better and it made me think about qadar versus dhikr/guide. Former trumps the latter it seems.
Is your mind spinning yet? Here, Psyah Bhai, this one is for you :D..:
There is another thing. Which is Koshish karna. Let's say someone is reciting a wazifa for job. And that person not applying anywhere or not trying to get a job then How reciting wazifa will help him? See what I mean is we are told Dua ke sath koshish bhi Karo.
when we are putting efforts in something and then reciting wazifa or praying ALLAH then it happens.
i have experienced so many times when only reciting wazifa didn't help but when I was trying to to put my efforts in something and was reciting wazifa as well i got what I wanted .
Sister my head is not spinning … I said in earlier posts if something does not happen the way we want … Then we have to learn to take pleasure in that outcome. Ironic the group’s name is Muse … And here we are talking about predestination.
