Israel and Pakistan both need the bomb for strategic deterrence (thats the party line from both the states). One needs from Arabs (a real threat) and the other from Indians (which is a perceived threat BTW).
Question Why does Iran and DPRK (Ummahs new friend) need Nukes.
P.S I have asked this question a number of times in other threads but it has been neglected a number of times; hence the new thread.
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So that they can fool their populations into a false sense of accomplishment thereby keeping the hordes of young (Iran) and all of North Korea from asking the tough questions. Like.."Mullah Ayatullahji, would the nukes help me get a job in engineering after I graduate? or do you think I will be like my dad..sitting at home praying all day for manna form heaven" or in NK "Kimchi, does nuclear grass taste better than Ichiban noodles?
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the question should be, why does any one need them?
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Why not?
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I am double minded about this issue. Part of me wants the US to nuke the hell out of North Korea and Iranian Mullahs, but the other part of me wants just to Have Israel take care of Iran and South Korea take care of its neighbor to the north.
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GUYS GUYS seriously Yaaroo, why does Iran and DPRK need Nukes. WHy is the question?
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Why US, India, Pakistan have nukes? If you know this, you've got your answer.
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why does usa need nukes ? their conventional army can defeat any other army ? then why ?
pak need them because the army is very very weak and we dont have enuf ammunation or guns lol
paki army is more like clown in a circus
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AS. Pakistan needs it because of the percieved threat India
India needs it because of percieved threat China and now real threat Pakistan.
US built its arsenal in the cold war, they stopped for a while (whatever is in the news)but now started again after Iran and DPRK and I think some SAmerican countries nukee ambition.
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The way we kicked India aaaas in kargil. It doesn’t look like any clown of circus can do that?
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^ ^Make your mind dude, some times you say it wasnt your army some times and then you "palti khayeeing" later on.
By the way how did they kick indias ass while running for their life. oh i get it dulatti.
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^ Probably you are have mistaken me with someone else kaka ji. I never said that it wasn’t our Army. Are you suffering from the symptoms of amnesia? You don’t remember we did with India in Kragil? Or you are watching too many of those bogus Indian war propaganda movies?
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I think the answer lies in a very simple truth: United States does not attack countries that already have weapons of mass destruction.
This is the lesson from Iraq. And this is the lesson Iran and North Korea have learnt rather well. Once you get nuclear weapons then you are treated with kid gloves (a.k.a. diplomacy). On the other hand, if you dismantled your nuclear ambitions (or your nuclear assets get bombed), you get stuck with no-fly zones in your own country, bombed periodically and occupied occassionaly.
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^ especially if you kill like millions of your own people...send monies to homicide bombers and are socially and economically deranged. Pakistan had nuclear weapons...they played ball after 9/11. What about them Faisal?
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Faisal Thank you. Thats all I wanted to know. I don't know where Kargil kicked into this picture.
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^ when someone called pakistani soldiers as circus clowns.
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Every time I hear this argument about the US not attacking countries with WMD, I have to chuckle. Have you ever considered that the US never attacked countries with nuclear weapons because they never did something to the US or its allies that would have required an attack? There are seven acknowledged members of the nuclear club: United States, Russia, China, Britain, France, India, and Pakistan (and an 8th unacknowledged member is Israel). As to Israel, Britain, France, and India, it’s pretty obvious we haven’t attacked them because they have been our allies. Pakistan has certainly not been a military threat to our national security since it developed its bomb. Only once during the Cold War was the level of hostility and threat from the Soviet Union so high that it warranted military action. I.e. Cuban Missile crisis. Our response certainly did not indicate that we were unwilling to confront the USSR militarily, notwithstanding its possession of nukes. It was the USSR that backed down from that confrontation. No reason ever to militarily attack China. Had they ever attempted to take over Taiwan, we had a defense treaty with Taiwan that promised military assistance regardless of the Chinese having nukes. China obviously believes that is not a threat but a promise or they would have invaded the island long ago.
As to other forms of WMD, we invaded Iraq notwithstanding our belief that it possessed and would use chemical weapons on our troops.
As to North Korea, they have been our enemy for over 50 years when they inarguably did not possess nukes. We didn’t attack them then did we? To say that we are not attacking them now because they say they have nukes is ridiculous. We have not attacked them for 50 years and are not attacking them today because we feel there are better ways of dealing with the problem. If and when we decide there is no better way to deal with them, I’m sure we’d be prepared to attack with the first target being suspected nuke sites.
While development of a few nukes may make you safer from conventional attack by non-nuclear regional neighbors, the mere possession of those nukes doesn’t make you immune from US military action if you provide sufficient belligerent reason for such action.
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when your labelled 'axis of evil', you need every weapon u can get.
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Iran needs it because of a perceived nuclear threat from Israel.
Remember, Iran is openly hostile toward a nuclear power, Israel, and openly supports groups that attack Israel.
When you are openly aggresive towards a nuclear power, you start getting afraid of the fact that the nuclear power has the ability to turn your country into a smoking glassland.
So the only way to ensure that Israel would never nuke Iran is to have a mutually assured destruction capability - have you own nukes.
Iran’s nuclear programme is a reaction to its declared enemy, Israel, having nukes.
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There is too much glory being given to countries with nukes. A Nuke is just an efficient way to take out a lot of people at once w/ one bomb. And a nuke in the hand of a terrorist is a great way to cause mass destruction without even having a standing army.
Mass destruction has been done with conventional bombs as well and resulted in more casualties than the nuke explosion in Hiroshima. In Dresden, Germany, Allied forces carpet bombed the city with conventional weapons.