Nuclear weapons: Can they be stopped?

an interesting article…Dr AQ name is once again mentioned…not good..not good…

Nuclear weapons: Can they be stopped?
By Paul Reynolds
BBC News Online world affairs correspondent

Nuclear technology is now so widespread that it is only political will which stops many countries from making nuclear weapons.

Iran denies it wants to build nuclear weapons

Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the UN’s nuclear regulatory body the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said recently that 40 countries could make the bomb if they wanted to.

The reason for this is that the technology legally used to enrich uranium to make fuel for nuclear power can easily be developed to make material for nuclear weapons.

A country could do this in secret or withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), and do it anyway.

This is the Achilles’ heel of the NPT - an agreement designed to stop the spread of nuclear weapons while allowing countries access to nuclear power.

But if even only one or two of them go nuclear, or are thought to be doing so, it could bring tension and even war into their regions.

We are determined to use every resource at our disposal
US Under Secretary John Bolton

The United States has not ruled out the use of military action to prevent proliferation.

The US Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton wrote in the Financial Times earlier this month:

“We are determined to use every resource at our disposal - using diplomacy regularly, economic pressure when it makes a difference, active law enforcement when appropriate and military force when we must.”

Such a policy can be expected to continue under a second Bush administration. A President Kerry would probably be more cautious about the use of force.

Take Iran and North Korea, the two countries currently in the frame.

Iran

Iran says that it intends to enrich uranium to make fuel, claiming its right to do so. It is defying a demand from the IAEA for it to suspend its plan and await fuller inspections.

The US and others, including Britain, demand that Iran abandon enrichment altogether on the grounds that it cannot be trusted.

If Israel thought that Iran was using its enrichment capability to build a bomb, which Iran says it is not, it might attack Iran’s nuclear facilities. Israel will certainly not give Iran the benefit of any doubt.

Only this week, reports emerged that the US was supplying Israel with 500 “bunker-busting” bombs which would be useful in any such attack. Israel has already started a diplomatic and media campaign to publicise its fears of Iranian intentions.

North Korea

North Korea has withdrawn from the NPT and is said by British Foreign Office Minister Bill Rammell, who visited the country recently, to have produced possibly two nuclear devices already. Talks have so far failed to make it change its mind.

North Korea says it needs nuclear weapons to check US aggression

“A North Korean nuclear weapon could tip Japan and South Korea into making their own,” said Dr Gary Samore, Senior Fellow for Non-Proliferation at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London and a former official in the Clinton administration.

It would also force a second Bush administration to decide whether to keep talking, to reluctantly accept a nuclear North Korea and impose sanctions, or try to destroy its nuclear plants.

The risk of that is great. It could start a general war on the Korean peninsula.

Tightening the Treaty

There is a move afoot to tighten the NPT which is reviewed every five years. The next review is in 2005.

Libya is now held up as an example of how a rogue nuclear state can be brought back into the international fold
The Bush administration has proposed a number of Treaty amendments, the most important of which would stop the spread of enrichment technology.

"The first proposal would close the loophole in the Treaty that allows states such as Iran and North Korea to pursue fissile material for nuclear weapons under peaceful cover.

“Enrichment and reprocessing plants would be limited to those states that now possess them,” John Bolton told a nuclear conference earlier this year.

Another proposal would prevent the sale of nuclear fuel to countries without a rigorous inspection regime.

However, Washington is not relying on the NPT being made to work more effectively.

“Counter-proliferation”

It has initiated a much more active campaign which it calls “counter-proliferation.”

Statistically, the treaty is doing OK
Dr Gary Samore

It has formed the “Proliferation Security Initiative” with like-minded countries.

Sometimes called an “action not an organisation”, the PSI is aimed at disrupting the sale and shipments of nuclear components, if necessary by interceptions at sea.

The US has also got the Security Council to pass Resolution 1540 which insists that member states tighten procedures to try to stop what are called “non state actors” i.e. rogue scientists from selling their wares and expertise.

The A Q Khan network

One such rogue scientist was Dr A Q Khan, the "father " of the Pakistani bomb, who was found to be transferring his expertise, certainly to Libya and possibly to Iran.

Pakistan began its nuclear programme in the 1970s

An interception of some his equipment on the way to Libya took place last year when a charter ship was diverted to an Italian port.

Libya subsequently renounced its secret nuclear programme and has been rewarded by the lifting of sanctions.

Libya is now held up as an example of how a rogue nuclear state can be brought back into the international fold.

NPT flaws

Non-nuclear and strongly anti-nuclear countries like New Zealand point to two further flaws in the NPT.

They complain that the nuclear powers accepted as such under the NPT (the US, Soviet Union (now Russia), China, Britain and France) have not worked for total nuclear disarmament as they are supposed to and as they re-committed themselves to at the last NPT review meeting in 2000.

This leads to claims that the NPT is a club used by the powerful, especially the US, to keep down the weak.

The other flaw is that a number of nuclear powers are not members of the NPT. These are Israel, India and Pakistan. They are therefore free of restrictions. Iran for one says that this unfair and that Israel should be forced to give up its nuclear weapons.

Israel in turn claims that it is in special peril.

India and Pakistan argue that if the US and others have weapons for defence and proclaim the value of the nuclear deterrence, then so should they.

However, the failure to bring them into the NPT has tempted others to join them outside. North Korea has done so.

And successes

However, there have been non-proliferation successes.

South Africa and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons. The whole of South America remains nuclear-free.

"The number of countries in the NPT which have pursued nuclear weapons is very small. Libya has given up. North Korea has left. That leaves the question of Iran, " said Dr Samore.

“Statistically, the treaty is doing OK,” he said.

Not anymore.

Thank you, Bush! :k:

Re: Nuclear weapons: Can they be stopped?

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*Originally posted by phoenixdesi: *
AQK name is once again mentioned....not good..not good...

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Yes certainly it is not good for Pakistan. That namak haram Khane Khan simply ruined the things for the country.

Pakistan was allowed build the crackers on one condition: that it would continue helping to stabilize Arrra-bobo lands. Thanks to Gen. Aslam Begum, Pakistan pulled out of the anti-Saddam allies. The result was "sanctions". The sanctions were less against the nukes and more against the behavior of Pak generals.

Fast forward to 2002. Pakistani army assumed the role as a stabilizer and AQK sins were forgiven. Pakistan should not quit its important role in the MEast. Time to send 200,000 troops to Iraq to destroy the MAToo nests.

In order to possess big-boy toys, you gotta act like one too. Otherwise AQK types will be treated as pipsqueak Aya Tullahs.

Reaslistically speaking, it is just a matter of technology. Anyone who works hard for it, will probably end up developing it at some point. Most nations make a strategic decision, not to go down that path. But those that do go down the nuclear route, there is no realistic way to stop them. America's threat to bomb them if they have nuclear ambitions is quite an unreal situation. Its like saying "if you attempt to get a gun, I will shoot you first". It just gives countries more incentive to have covert nuclear programs to be able to have a viable deterrent.

Nukes cannot be stopped.

Iran is definitely getting them sooner or later. That means that some aRab nations will follow, Koreans will have it etc.

As to A.Q.Khan, Musharraf did the tactically brilliant thing by accepting that AQ was guilty, but in the long run it may be a different case. I have not read a single nuke related article of late without AQ Khan featuring in it.

Anyway, Pakistan will be safe as long as Musharraf is around. After that, who knows. Admitted truths can be resurrected...

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Reaslistically speaking, it is just a matter of technology. Anyone who works hard for it, will probably end up developing it at some point. Most nations make a strategic decision, not to go down that path. But those that do go down the nuclear route, there is no realistic way to stop them. America's threat to bomb them if they have nuclear ambitions is quite an unreal situation. Its like saying "if you attempt to get a gun, I will shoot you first". It just gives countries more incentive to have covert nuclear programs to be able to have a viable deterrent.
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I sort of agree that development can't be stopped in its entirety. However, on occasion, all you need to do is buy some time which may change the course of events. Israel bombing the sites in Iraq certainly slowed Iraq's nuke program enough to allow other events to determinatively put the kabosh on it.

Would the bombing of Iran's nuke facilities slow the development long enough for a regime change to occur?? Who knows.

May be. May be not. These kind of high-handed "solutions" need to go away. Many countries of the world have missiles. You don't expect them to go around firing them randomly at their foes. You just manage the whole thing through UN and UNSC so that countries of the world are not constantly raining missiles and bombs on each other. Same with nuclear weapons.

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........Would the bombing of Iran's nuke facilities slow the development long enough for a regime change to occur??
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I say bomb the $hit of Tullahs and then do the regime change. MAToos are incapable of listening to the reason.

Pakistani jumping-jacks will only realize the MAToo danger when those Mulsim brother nukes will explode in Karachi or Lahore. There won't be anyone left to blame the thingy on our old foe Baha-Rat-i RAW.

The nukes are here to stay!

Well, due to the inherent flaws in the NPT and the recalcitrance of the de-jure nuclear weapon states to hold on to the nuclear capabilty, the dream to have this place free of nuclear weapons is fallacious. Its not just the Iranians but also the other states take for example India that have been criticising the NPT ever since and identify it as one of the major reasons that led them to pursue their programs.
All I can see is that more states would follow suit if Iran goes nuclear and so this tide would not be reversed. It would be like a row of falling dominoes if a lax approach is adopted towards states possessing the capability to build the bomb.
Strictly speaking from Pakistan's point of view, I believe Irans buildup does not bode too well for us but in the larger scheme of things, IMO, Iran has all the right to pursue its desire and divert its nuclear program. ( I mean keeping in context the larger Middle Eastern situation and Isreals naked aggression and threats to Iran. )

Speaking from a neutral position, I think it was Clinton who made a mistake when he stopped pressing the South Asian states to roll back their program and talked about capping it instead. I don't think there is any reason for these states to go back to pre-detonation status. Pakistan in all possibility and probabilty needs nuclear weapons since we cannot match Indian conventional superiority.

On the other hand, Isreal is not going to give up its WMD and US or for that matter any western state would be bothered to bring Isreal 's issue on the UNSC agenda. This also speaks volumes about the hypocricy of the United States of America with regard to non-proliferation issues.

So, nukes are not going anywhere, if at all there will be more prolioferation in the days to come. :p

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No, nuclear weapons are there to stay.

They would increase more and more.

But due to nuclear weapons presence; world war would not happen.

india , Pakistan war would not start.

Only weak countries would be under the pressure of those who have nukes. Bye sokoon

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