NUCLEAR RACE IN SOUTH ASIA,......Who to Blame,...

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Thanks for providing me the correct information. I watched the documentary but even I was amused a bit at the figures. These news channels sometimes, spread false information too just to support the point they are raising.

Thanks again Sir.

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I fully agree with you umer, thats why I said India is just a “wanna be” i didnt say it can in current state. wana bees used for who want to be what is not possible!

your idea for using nuclear to benefit people is very right. Pakistan Atomic energy should chanelise resources towards these things, I dont know why we still have to aquire N power plants from abroad, Pakistan should work to develop its own now.

nuclear as train fuels is not going to be safe in case of accidents, so I guess producing cheap electricity which can then run environment friendly trains will much safer solution.

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Yes nuclear trains will destroy cities if they face accidents. I did not meant about trains running directly on nuclear fuel, but trains that can run on converted-nuclear-energy. Like trains that use electrical energy generated by a nuclear power station (situated some where else). Cause for cars, the electricity is not as much a good source, but I know in many countries trains and trams are powered by electricity. I used to study in Turkey, and they were running a tram in the city of Istanbul that was powered by electricity. We will generate electricity from nuclear power plants, and it will be quite cheap. Then when trains run on cheap fuel, the rents will be affected by 100s of %. Also when factories run on cheap electricity, we will have local product rates decreased plus a good chance of attracting foreign investors.

Yes it seems that government was just interested in making some explosive experiments. Billions of rupee, unlimited resources and thousands of people were spent on this research and it has no benefit for us except for these explosions.

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For what?

If India had destructive weapon like nuclear, then we must have one. India did not developed this weapon to destroy America or Rusia. Then why they wanted to have it? Think on it man

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Yes,

BJP is as important for us as our nuclear programme or even Abdul Qadir Khan, if we take them in that sense..

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Have you heard of a country called China? You know, that big country that sells nukes to Pakistan…

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Well

interesting, so you mean it is China that gave this technology to us. China is our good friend yaar, but in international politics, relations change when governments change. China is not (“My uncle’s son”) to be so nice to say that ohh Pakistan yu are my good friend. Take this nuke and keep it.

Well it is very easy to find people in pakistan and India who just believe that nothing can be done in these countries. If some one will make high quality sports shoes for instance, these people will say oh nothing is as good as NIKE or ADIDAS, without even giving a try to theat person’s product.

I strongly believe that if we have developed some nukes then we have developed them on our own. Without some one’s help. You cannot take the credit from our scientists and engineers by just giving China all the credit.. China is our friend and partner in many research and development areas but has no involvment in nukes.

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I dont mind if we get Nuke technology from China.. Although, why havent they been caught or reprimanded for Nuke proliferation if thats the case?
From what I know, AQ Khan worked in Europe and got the plans from there...

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China isnt half the threat you guys make them out to be… This is just another case of ambition… Nukes are the nationalist equivalent, to the guy who needs to buy a Muscle/Sports Car to cover up his insecurity;):hehe:
Just remember, we only got our sports car cause you got your first:)

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In pakistan people don't sleep on roads. well the news is they don't even got one. ITs amazing how much indian bashing goes in this website. man other websites just ban if say word against pakistan. well i like this.

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People dont have to sleep on roads, despite the extensive and rapidly expanding network, becuse they have homes… Indian bashing only where its called for. Typical debates over Kashmir and such. No Indian bashing for the sake of Indian bashing.
Gupshup is very open to opposing views.

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Well my friends

Indian Government claims that India is an open and free country. So if 20% of its people sleep on roads, this prooves that Indian Government is true in its claims. If some people want to sleep on roads, Government lets them live as they want. If India was not a free and open country then the Government must not have cared of these people who like sleeping on the roads and must have built houses for them instead of trying to become a super power by making nuclear explosions. Even I heard that Indian Government and some of these people destroyed some old and historic mosques and Muslim structures to build more roads for just born ones to live there in future. That is SOLID planning.

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Indian govt recently demolished about 500 shanty houses in Mumbai near the Airport. No big deal since they want to beautify the city. But the people there were given very little in compensation and nothing was done to provide these people with shelter. Although they have promised to build these new homes, its only after these houses were destroyed. These people had been living there for years, and theyhad actually paid for these shanty houses I believe.

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ok 1 billion some people are sleeping on roads. in i think 150 million of pakistan population half-them below poverty line. don’t even have a hope for a good future. its not like pakistan man anyone who got guns can become dictators and terrotists. indian political system is the biggest in the world.

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Half info is worse than wrong info.

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No man pakistan is independent too. See only 20% of the population goes to school, rest in the terrorist camps. Government does not spend anything on these people. I mean to educate them. Millions of people are poor and do not sleep in houses. Pakis are willing to spend on terrorism, but not too help these kind of people.

Pakpatriot I don't note every singlething done by paki govt. We don't give a damn abt u guys man. what u told was a story from, which movie was that.....? Otherwise I am pretty sure that there would be many instances that I could give. So keep the arguments to real and worldwide facts.

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Actually, Indian poverty is far more stark… Majority of our population is ok.
Go to any city in Pakistan and you will see beggers, but unlike in India you dont see huge shanty towns right in the heart of the city. Your crap holes exist side by side with modernity. We have many sh1ty areas but they are far apart, and small.
Frankly speaking, poverty in Pakistan is far less visable then it is in India. And India just happens to be one of the most poverty stricken countries in the world, its famous for it, so stop acting like your some how superior… Its like one piece of crap insulting another.. Loser!
As for no hope, I dont know about that, our economy is improving, where doing better. The govt is fully aware of the problem and are finally trying to make a difference. So its not hopeless.

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finally you are aware of your povery thank god. oh by the way visit to india one day. american videos are like that, USA has some many ugly areas and poverty. just visit Newyork. as for viseable no one cares about pakistan thats what you are indicating, as for as poverty goes just visit chandigarah, hyderbad, bangalore and delhi there are so many cities. so don’t tell pakistan is better. it makes me laugh.

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dele dele apne aap ko dilasa de le. Majority of ur population is under poverty line. Don’t tell me the situation of POK. All of ur population is crap hole that exists inside as well as outside the city. U have many ****ty areas that is exactly what I wanted u to say. Just say that ur country is a ****ty area. Pakistan happens to be one of the poor and country that is full of terrorists. Learn to be superior. So take away the guns and give the books in the hands of people in ur country. U have many ****ty areas far apart. Noooo. Terrorist camps are also inside ur country aren’t they. Duboge salon duboge. Seekh ko abhi bhi. Ur govt. knows nothing but to help terrorists. US thinks of u as dogs. Stop kissing US’s ass and stand on ur own. Then talk to us. Otherwise don’t waste our time.

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Well man don’t spread false information or information printed in some Indian newspapers or magazines, that will always indicate that India is much better than Pakistan in terms of every thing.

There are many different ways to measure poverty, so if some Indian newspaper or even Indian Government have used some of them to prove that India is better then it is no surprise. Here I am quoting some international measurements and their links too.

Here I am quoting the figures as of the last reports published by UN and its sub divisions,

%age of population earning $1 per day
India 35% (~350 million)
Pakistan 13% (~19 million)

http://www.unicef.org/sowc04/files/Table7.pdf

Now just to let you know how indian Government and media fools people, check this one:

% population earning below $1 daily
India 34.7%
Pakistan 13.4%

% population earning below $2 daily
India 79.9
Pakistan 65.6

**% population earning below National Poverty Line **
(This is what you are talking about)
India 28.5%
Pakistan 36.2%

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/pdf/hdr04_HDI.pdf

India has about 22% more population than Pakistan earning less than $1 a day, $30 a month…In this much money, even survival is difficult. This also proves the point I have raised before that about 20% people in India live on roads. Since this money can never let any body save for a house…

Just to fool media and let their image good in front of people who don’t have access to much informations Governments usually make their own rating systems just to indicate that they are not as bad. Even in this case Pakistan Government have a much better and JUST scheme than India, which really reflects the situation of the country. If you earn Rs. 1000 in India and your government claims that Rs. 800 is the minimum expenditure for being announced poor then this makes you a rich man, even you can just spend 2-8 days in Rs 1000, if you are alone.

Look dear, you will definitely get response to your posts here, but please come with REAL information.