NS & Maryam Nawaz coming back

after announced punishment by NAB.

Honestly this actually caught me by surprise. I wasnt expecting them to come back becuz they know they are going to jail. And they cannot bear the toughness required for staying in jail.

and today is the day when it may get all messy in Lahore.

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN)Pakistan’s largest province is in lockdown as authorities prepare for the return – and arrest – of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his daughter.

Sharif and his daughter Maryam are due to land in the city of Lahore from the UK Friday, one week after a court found them guilty of corruption-related charges and sentenced them to 10 and seven years in prison, respectively.

Authorities in Lahore, Punjab Province are preparing for mass protests in support of the Sharifs, who party members say have been unfairly targeted.
In a video released by the Pakistan Muslim League Noon (PMLN) party early Friday morning, Sharif can be seen addressing his supporters from inside the airplane, stating that he was returning to Pakistan as a “sacrifice for the future generations of the country and for its political stability.”

“The country is at a critical juncture right now I have done what I could. I am aware that I have been sentenced to 10 years and will be taken to a jail cell straight away,” he said.

Whatever one thinks of their politics or morals, they are doing something that even the generals do not have the courage to do.

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Musharraf also came back once. The gist is when and if PML-n loses the election. Would they stay in jail like zardari?

Kashmir fatah kar ke aa rahay hain dono Pyo and Dhee :rolleyes:

Thats what most people fail to understand. Its not because him or anyone is brave or coward to return, Nawaz and Mariam returned because if they didn’t they would’ve lost all the right to appeal and consequently would go to jail as per law and they wouldn’t do that as that would mean the end. Mushy on the other side should’ve stayed out of politics and lived a retired life. But the nashaa of power is an addiction to everyone be it politicians of military.

The kid sometimes shows far more maturity than most of the seniors out there..


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Either this genius kid is naive or is still on a pacifier. Is it even possible in Pakistani politics to hold a peaceful protest or demonstration?

Yes sir, very much! Remember a thing called Dharna in Islo? A number of rallies by civil society in khi? And so on and so forth.

Any crackdown on a protest was disgusting yesterday, and is disgusting today as well. No matter who is the operational handle

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No it wasn’t quite peaceful. Rally of civil society cannot be compared to a political demonstration which is always violent in sub-continent.

Nawaz and even Maryam are showing ten times the courage of coward Musharraf and the generals.

Um.. how long did the dharna continue? Something like 4 months plus few days?

Chalen, lets suppose you are right and Bilawal is wrong. In Pakistan its not possible to hold peaceful rallies. Does it mean that everytime someone announces a protest, the city is locked down and it becomes a D-day for them like infamous May 12? If thats the acceptable case then probably protests should be banned altogether.

I vocally opposed it when NS did it in gullu butt situation, when Musharraf did on May 12th and I once again condemning this as well. NS is hit by the karma, so why cant current establishment see what they’ll get hit with?

Yes I was surprised to but when I saw the reason that they will lose the appeal and hence everything they can retain to do on pro-longed-case basis. Nawaz Sharif is not going to regular ‘third-class’ jail used for a common citizen-criminal, but rather a better maintained facility for ‘elites’/‘ruling class’. Not sure where Maryam will end though. I think they are betting on PMLN winning the election and then coming to their rescue.

He really proved himself a lion - not a a rat like Altaf Hussain!

Thousands of Rangers/ISI agents are concentrating on Nawaz Sharif, while terrorists bomb the country up and down.

Until Pakistan get’s a professional and honest Army, the anarchy in the country will continue.

The Real Culprits

They would be more than happy to prevent a politician and his daughter in reaching their supporters but less than happy to prevent a bomb blast in Balochistan claiming the lives of 135 innocent people.
They would be more than happy to prevent PMLN workers from reaching Lahore, but less than happy to prevent Khadim Hussain Rizvi from blocking Islamabad.
They would be more than happy to spread false news on media. But they would be less than happy when media airs factual news.

They would be more than happy to prevent Manzoor Pashteen to raise genuine issues. But they would be less than happy to prevent anchor Shahid Masood and the like from raising fake issues.
They would be more than happy to prevent Nawaz Sharif from addressing his followers on media but less than happy to prevent Hafiz Saeed from addressing his followers on media.

They would be more than happy to prevent law from taking its course against policemen Rao Anwaar, accused of killing 400 people. But they would be less than happy when the same law is applied to General Pervez Musharaf.
They would be more than happy to prevent civilian leadership from taking critical decisions on economy and foreign policy. But they would be less than happy when the country is disgraced at international forums like FATF.

They would be more than happy to prevent the courts from proceeding against politicians if they surrender. But they would be less than happy if the courts give relief to politicians who do not surrender.
They would be more than happy to register cases of terrorism against moderate political leaders like Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and Mushahid Hussain. But they would be less than happy to register terrorism cases against real terrorists (read assets) like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar
Who are they?
They are the real culprits who have kept this country hostage for 70 years!
Waseem Altaf

Why didn’t he take asylum in Saudi Arabia like before?

Why assumed he is brave when it could be he had no other choice?

I don’t think he can settle in UK

Lahore seems to have disappointed NS as only 150000 gather as against Benazir’s receiption of 1986.

If people want to come on roads - nothing can stop them!

Pakistani Generals? arrogant stupidity makes Nawaz Sharif rise as a heroic fighter for democracy
HUSAIN HAQQANI 14 July, 2018

Sharif?s imprisonment will not end his political career and will outlast the retirement of generals and colonels who plotted his downfall.

Nawaz Sharif?s decision to return to Pakistan and go to prison marks a new phase in the country?s politics. Sharif had been a creature of the establishment in the first phase of his political life and only a cautious opponent of the establishment since 1993. He has now become the first Punjabi politician to defy the predominantly Punjabi establishment in ways previously associated with leaders of Pakistan?s smaller ethnic groups.

The subject of this article is not Sharif?s flaws or merits, but the future of Pakistan?s politics. Pakistani politicians have often allowed the military-led establishment to maintain a fa?ade of civilian democratic rule while calling most of the shots.

Sharif?s decision to accept prison instead of staying in exile shocked the establishment, which had assumed that the fear of prison would be enough to take Sharif out of politics. After all, the old Sharif had accepted the option of going into exile after being toppled from power by the 1999 military coup. That decision helped avoid prolonged confrontation and enabled the survival of General Pervez Musharraf?s military regime.

Sharif?s return this time forced the establishment to unleash repression on a large scale, ending the veneer of benign authoritarianism. Hundreds of Sharif supporters were arrested pre-emptively. His 85-year-old mother was detained. Traffic into Lahore, the capital of Punjab, was virtually shut down.

Television coverage of Sharif?s return and the planned reception was severely censored. Mobile telephone networks were interfered with to deny people access to social media. And the flight of an international airline carrying the former prime minister from Abu Dhabi to Lahore was delayed, amid efforts to divert it, to deny even the slightest visual contact between Sharif and his supporters.

For millions of Pakistan Muslim League (PML) voters, Sharif?s conviction on corruption charges is just not credible. But for many others who were not his supporters before and recognised his flaws, he is now the symbol of defiance to an arrogant and overbearing establishment.

?Who are the judges and generals to decide who will represent us? If our elected leaders are corrupt, we want the right to vote them out? seems to be the dominant sentiment that transcends feelings for Sharif or his family.

Pakistan?s failure to evolve as a democracy under the rule of law with strong institutions and its governance by a civil-military oligarchy creates an air of permanent political crisis that is likely to be heightened by Sharif?s imprisonment.

Members of the oligarchy jockey for power through intrigue, rumour and whispering campaigns. Popular politicians are kept out of the political arena or forced to make compromises that subordinate them to military officers and civil servants. Almost every Pakistani head of state and government since independence in 1947 has been imprisoned, assassinated, executed or removed from power in a military coup or a palace coup backed by the military.

In the country?s unfortunate history, governments have sometimes been voted into office but none have been voted out. The country?s generals and their offspring feel comfortable only with technocrats and civil servants who have grown up in the Government Officers? Residences (GOR) and cantonments.

An entire class of Pakistanis resents ?the riff-raff? that votes and believes in ?the national narrative? that puts the army on a pedestal, amid many myths about Pakistan?s origins and place under the sun.

As early as 1954, General Ayub Khan wrote a memo titled ?A short appreciation of present and future problems of Pakistan?, which laid out a top-down agenda for forging a Pakistani nation through the leadership of the existing apparatus of the state. While it lays out in detail the administrative measures necessary for making Pakistan ? a sound, solid and cohesive nation?able to play its destined role in world history?, it has no reference whatsoever to the will of the people or to political participation.

Unfortunately for Pakistan, Ayub Khan?s paradigm of considering the military as the ultimate decision-makers and the virtual raison d??tre of Pakistan has persisted. Every now and then a politician has gained popularity but the military has been able to use his or her weaknesses to its advantage. Thus, ?Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was intolerant of opposition,? ?Benazir Bhutto presided over a corrupt and incompetent administration,? and ?Nawaz Sharif is a creature of the establishment who loves the comforts of life.?

But after four coups and many more indirect interventions, Pakistan?s establishment is far from delivering the stability and progress it seeks to deliver through its machinations. It is unlikely to succeed this time either.

Politics is often described as the art of the possible and governance is considered a function of politics. Good governance means the art of administering the state successfully within the parameters of attainable and realistic objectives. Anyone trying to set everything right at the same time might be pursuing a dream. Such pursuits can neither be termed as practical politics nor can they be the basis of good governance.

Moreover, military officers are used to dealing with regimented minds. The troops under their command ask no questions while obeying orders. When called upon to command civilians, military men find it difficult to deal with constant debates and disagreements as well as the numerous options put forward with equal eloquence. The diversity of civilian issues is the most important characteristic of running a government. Pakistan?s soldier-rulers and their civilian dependents refuse to learn the lesson that the profession of soldiering provides insufficient training for the task of governance.

This time, the script for ?saving Pakistan? differed little from previous such efforts. It was expected that once the Supreme Court disqualified Sharif, his support would evaporate and his party would desert him. Then the establishment?s favorites, including former cricketer Imran Khan (who is described since his Oxford University days as ?Im the Dim?) were expected to win an election widely seen as free and fair. Pakistan was to live the happily ever after.

But Sharif?s party did not desert him and the few locally influential leaders who did had to be coerced in manners that could not be concealed. The army and the ISI decided to deal with the media in a heavy-handed way, with specific instructions about whom to favour and whom to oppose in the election campaign. This, too, could not remain secret.

Other exertions of the military-intelligence combine on behalf of its preferred candidates included calling up candidates with vote-banks to leave the PML, Altaf Hussain?s Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), or the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), and join the PTI or other smaller pro-establishment factions. Insolent politicians faced corruption charges and some were even disqualified while the obedient ones were protected and promised rewards.

In cantonment life, an adverse order from a superior officer ends or diminishes careers but in politics repression and persecution only engenders sympathy. Through its ham-fisted approach, the Pakistani establishment has made the public forget their complaints against Nawaz Sharif and his daughter, Maryam. Instead, the father and daughter will now be seen as symbols of defiance in an establishment that has consistently undermined Pakistan?s evolution as a democracy.

Even if the military succeeds in installing a selected prime minister into office after the votes are cast on July 25, it will not succeed in its core objective of creating a credible, effective, civilian fa?ade. Sharif?s imprisonment will not end his (or his daughter?s) political careers long after the retirement of the generals and colonels who plotted his downfall. Soldiers should remain soldiers. Politics is more difficult than locating and liquidating enemies.

Husain Haqqani, director for South and Central Asia at the Hudson Institute in Washington D.C., was Pakistan?s ambassador to the United States from 2008-11. His latest book is ?Reimagining Pakistan.

This is for what this so-called hero came back
https://www.dawn.com/news/1420412/nawaz-maryam-and-safdar-file-appeals-against-avenfield-verdict