Any thoughts on this? Lookslike another forward block on the horizon 
yaar your link was not working, i have the same sdtory from a diff source.
I think I had predicted that the alliance will not last 3 months after the govt is chosen, even if they were in the ruling coalition. I guess i gave them too much credit.
3 months..3 days is more like it
As much as some people would like to see the MMA breakdown , I think they will resolve this issue and remain together. :)
There would have been a greater chance of them staying together if they were in the ruling coalition i suppose, but then there they mqay had divisions amongst them for real issues. Right now their platform is just going to be anti-government so not much to argue about.
However, splinters will occur, anyone recall how many diff groups of JI and JUI were there to begin with?
JUI had around 3 groups. But JI never had more than one. The only real split they ever had didn't give rise to 2 JI groups in politics. :)
But the 2 groups out of 3 of JUI merged some time ago leaving 2 and now they are together under MMA aswell. :)
well MMA was a merger of 6 groups to begin with if you recall.
anyone has a complete list of parties which were running for election. :)
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anyone has a complete list of parties which were running for election. :)
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list of who? the member parties of MMA or All political parties running for elections?
lest see both. and if possible list of the parties which were disqualified.
MMA a motley bunch of power seekers
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As much as some people would like to see the MMA breakdown , I think they will resolve this issue and remain together. :)
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This bunch of self righteous moulvis don't offer Namaz behind the other. They joined together to win seats by fooling the public with their peo-Taliban stance, although they sent so many youngsters on Jihad and abandoned them when the going was tough. Very soon the relatives of the young Mujahideen they sent on Jihad will come out and lynch them.
The MMA has a web site which shows all its component parts. Basically when you talk about the MMA you should talk about JUI(F) and JI, to a lesser extent JUI(S) and JUP.
I don't thinkthe alliance will break just yet, the problem is with Fazlur Rehman. His people have been given the support for the CM of NWFP and Baluchistan and he got supported for the PM post, but he's got a greedy streak and figures he can make some sort of deal to become a Minister or something. I think Qazi Hussain and Noorani have shown they are willing to sacrifice a lot for the unity of the MMA, but Fazlur Rehman should stop being so greedy.
Khair, if their intentions are good, and they are indeed people of noble spirit, the coalition wont fall.
I predict it will. And the time is not too far off.
Zakk, :)
I can agree with what you said. Infact I've always maintained (since even before the elections) that Fazlur Rehman is the weakest link in the MMA. If MMA ever breaks up it will be because of him and not because of Qazi Hussain or Noorani. Those two as you say correctly have already shown that they can make sacrifices for the sake of unity.
That said, I don't think MMA is breaking up just yet. So the critics shouldn't hold their breath. :)
And God knows given the current situation , no one who loves Pakistan should want it to.
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**That said, I don't think MMA is breaking up just yet. *
yep, maybe not yet, but eventually it will happen.
*So the critics shouldn't hold their breath. :) *
Niether should supporters :)
*And God knows given the current situation , no one who loves Pakistan should want it to. *
what does love for Pakistan have to do with MMA staying together or imploding? they are in the opposition and whether they yip yap together or seperately, whats the issue. I mean on a provincial level maybe but not overall.
anyone who loves Pakistan should hope that these clowns dont get in power somehow, even before they knew whether or not they will be the ruling coalition partner they started talking about banning TV and what nots :)
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*That said, I don't think MMA is breaking up just yet. *
yep, maybe not yet, but eventually it will happen.
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We'll see if you get your wish. :)
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Niether should supporters :)
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Well normally you hold your breath when you are waiting for something, and not if you think something isn't happening soon. Just so you know :p
*And God knows given the current situation , no one who loves Pakistan should want it to. *
Yeah That is true.
And Ah, I will leave out your response to this because I think it is nonsense. :)
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..anyone who loves Pakistan should hope that these clowns dont get in power somehow, even before they knew whether or not they will be the ruling coalition partner they started talking about banning TV and what nots :) ...
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Indeed.
btw - as a congratulatory gesture I am thinking of sending the leaders of MMA a present. Does anyone know if they prefer a Single malt or Blended?
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Does anyone know if they prefer a Single malt or Blended?
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dont ask them that, the disagreement on that question may be the one that splits the alliance up ;) thats a tougher question than whether they liek gajjar ka halwa or suji ka halwa..or both
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dont ask them that, the disagreement on that question may be the one that splits the alliance up ;) thats a tougher question than whether they liek gajjar ka halwa or suji ka halwa..or both
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:)
MMA stops all cultural activity in NWFP
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_6-12-2002_pg7_15
Staff Report
PESHAWAR: In the wake of the Mutahida Majlas-e-Amal (MMA) unprecedented victory in the recent general elections, cultural and musical programmes, which were a regular feature, are no longer held in Nishter Hall, the sole cultural center of the provincial metropolis.
“I cannot dare to hold a musical show in Nishter Hall as the new government has imposed a ban even on playing cassette recorders in public buses. I fear that in case the government takes an action against me and cancels the show, which will be a big financial loss for me”, a local producer wishing not to be named told Daily Times.
He admitted that the so-called arts councils had distorted the cultural values of the province and their programmes were nothing but vulgar dialogues with a low standard of singing by ordinary artists.
“But there are also a number of genuine producers and arts organizations who really wish to present quality entertainment to the audience”, he observed adding that the MMA government should differentiate between the real artists and those who encourage obscenity and vulgarity in their presentations.
Despite the rich cultural and literary heritage of the people of NWFP the successive governments neglected the genuine issue of promoting the local culture, music, arts and literature on various pretexts.
The so-called liberal and democratic rulers were not interested at in the work for the promotion of local arts and literature as they were the scions of large industrialists or feudal families and were not interested in the promotion of the arts and its role in the social and intellectual awakening of a nation.
Similarly the religious groups termed them altogether as un-Islamic and imposed ban on musical and cultural event of every sort. This has created a vacuum in the cultural profile of the NWFP province.
“It is regrettable that successive governments did not patronize the cultural activities of this province and mostly the funds given to the culture department for the purpose were wasted on unnecessary activities or on arranging musical events for the elite class.
The financially overburdened common man has no opportunity to release his tension and worries in a healthy cultural activity. No steps have been taken for the preservation of local culture, arts, folklore and traditional games. That is why majority of the people have switched over to foreign TV channels, while the local arts are shrinking into oblivion”, an official of the provincial culture department said.
The Provincial Vice President of MMA and Provincial Amir of Jamat-e-Islami Professor Ibrahim when asked about the MMA’s cultural policy told newsmen that the MMA would bring drastic reforms in the musical shows, dramas, and cultural programmes presented on the electronic media and cultural halls and would harmonize them with the injunctions of Islam.
“We will constitute an Ulema Committee that will analyze the TV and stage programmes in the light of Islamic principles and then they will issue decrees about whether they should be allowed or not”, he explained.
Mr Ibrahim observed that Islam was the religion of nature and it does not adopt a narrow approach to any matter of human life. The MMA would formulate such a policy that would provide an opportunity to each and every segment of the society to come forward and play their role for the development and prosperity of the nation.
“We strictly criticize the TV programmes as they are not only in conflict with the Islamic values but are also totally opposed to the history, traditions and cultural norms of the country. They are so vulgar and westernised that a person cannot watch them with his family. We will change this trend in the electronic media”, he pledged
you know what, for once i would like them to have real feasible plans for other stuff as well. censorship, segregation, music and all that. Do these guys think beyond that?
Lets see their plans for health, technology, industry, education, human rights, law and order.
and not just hawai qilay plans (hawai qilay= castles in the air) and no slogans, but real plans..