now a Bullet train in Pak

is it just another stunt by wanna be in picture Sh Rashid?? hope even if its for publicity, it gets go ahead. and spawn the way to whole pakistan linking through fast trains. so roads can cope trafic and poor masses move around quickly and mix of pepole of Pakistan becomes a reality.

http://www.dawn.com/2006/07/30/nat2.htm

Pindi-Lahore bullet train approved

By A Reporter

RAWALPINDI, July 29: President General Pervez Musharraf on Saturday approved introduction of “bullet train” between Rawalpindi and Lahore.

The Federal Minister for Railways, Shaikh Rashid Ahmad told Dawn that the speed of the bullet train would be 250 kilometres per hour and it would reach Lahore in one hour and fifteen minutes.

He said a separate track on standard gauge would be laid along the existing tracks but will have fully fenced to avoid any interference. The feasibility study for this project would be completed in four months, he said. The President had desired to inaugurate the Bullet Train himself, he said.

Earlier, speaking at the opening of the high-speed passenger coaches workshop at the Carriage Factory, Islamabad (CFI), President General Pervez Musharraf said Pakistan would be converted into a trade corridor by linking Gwadar Deep Sea Port with the regional countries through an efficient communication infrastructure including rail network.

The opening of the workshop has taken Pakistan Railways towards self-reliance and modernization. The capacity of CFI to fabricate, renovate, rehabilitate and converse passenger coaches has now been increased from 150 to 225 coaches annually. Opening of the new workshop would also help the country save foreign exchange.

Referring to Pakistan’s geo-strategic locations, President Musharraf said Pakistan served as an economic and trade hub to the Central Asian Republics, the Gulf, the Middle East, Western China and South Asia. Pakistan Railways would be upgraded and modernised along with efficient network of roads and ports for promoting regional trade, he declared.

Earlier, Sheikh Rashid Ahmad informed the President about the future expansion plans and modernization of Pakistan Railways including laying of rail tracks linking Gwadar with Quetta and onward to Chaman on Iranian border and Spin Buldak on the Afghan border at an estimated cost of Rs75 billion.

The President gave his approval to a pre-feasibility study for laying rail tracks from Havelian to Khunjrab Pass to be conducted by a German firm to link China with the Gwadar Deep Sea Port. The proposed rail link would provide China a shortest trade route for expanding its commerce with the Middle East and regions beyond.

The President also approved the pre-feasibility study to introduce mass-transit in eight major cities of the country.

Pakistan Railways is in the process of acquiring 69 locomotives from China at a cost of Rs5.89 billion. Out of these, 33 were being assembled at the locomotive factory in Risalpur while 20 others would be imported from China. President was informed that 24 locomotives imported earlier had developed cracks were operative after repair.

The rehabilitation and dualization of rail tracks were also unveiled at presentation. The President was informed that Lodhran-Khanewal section and Khanewal-Raiwind section would be dualised at a cost of Rs8.8 billion.

Pakistan Railways had already had double track from Karachi-Lodhran on main line. From Lodhran-Khanewal via Multan double track was nearing completion. It has been planned to extend the doubling of track from Khanewal-Lahore (246 Kms) to have double track right from Karachi to Lahore. The project would be completed by 2008, according to sources in Railways.

Over 2,000 track would be rehabilitated at a cost of Rs9.4 billion. Modern signal equipment costing over Rs1 billion would also be installed which would help make railway journey safer.

Under its expansion programme aimed at providing efficient and modern commuting facilities to the passengers high capacity wagons and over 6,000 sleepers would be produced annually involving private sector.

Railway had acquired 175 railway passengers’ carriages with the new designs at a cost of Rs7.77 billion. All these measures would transform the Railways into an efficient communication mean for the benefit of the commuters.

After inauguration, President Musharraf went round the factory and expressed his satisfaction over the standard of work being carried out there. On the occasion, he announced an honorarium of Rs1,000 each for about 1600 workers of the carriage factory.

This was the first-ever visit to the Carriage Factory by the President of Pakistan since its establishment in 1971 as a part of Pakistan Railways emphasis on acquiring self-sufficiency in production of rolling stock and is equipped to manufacture coaches, carry out refurbishment and modification of ordinary coaches to air-conditioned coaches.

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Ya right! still fooling the people, as you said.

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I have travelled from Lahore to Pindi, on the non-stop service and that was pretty fast and got there is just over 3 and half hours. The bullet train should cut that time down considerably.

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I doubt it...

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"He said a separate track on standard gauge would be laid along the existing tracks....."

Why standard gauge? Why not broad guage? It took many years for PRail to stadardize its track by eliminating narrow and meter guages. New proposal definitely bring pRail to derail its standardizing program. Standard guage means importing of new carriages, locomotives, technology, infrastructure and so on spending billion of dollars for no reason. Unless some interested in commission in "dollars" this program is of no value to public. If minister is so keen to improve the condition of Railways, he has first to focus on completion on the double line between Lodhran and Peshawar. This project is pending sincle last many decades!!

But who cares? as long money is comming into some pockets, rest of Pakis go to hell.

FARID

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What makes you think they will build this thing in the first place?

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I won't believe it until I see it.

But we already have high-speed cargo trains, so why not high-speed passenger trains?

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mo293,

"What makes you think they will build this thing in the first place?"

When there is possibility of dollars going in to pockets of few who run the show, project can be accepted without delay. For public, it is great news and for elite, it is dollars. Later on such projects as usual ( I already pointed out in my last post)become pain in the ass of public with Country bearing additional debt of foreign borrowing. Again Pakis would be sufferers.

FARID

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Wasn't it the exiled ganjoo who first floated this idea?

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I highly doubt that that kind of a train would be coming to pakistan for at least the next 25 years.

The problem with pakistanis is that they don't have technical experience. They still use 1970's paindo technology on infrustructure.

Most of the roads and bridges in Pakistan are of very low quality, no wonder they break after every heavy rain !!!! The jahil/paindo engineers don't know how they make roads etc in the developed world.

Until then don't believe any of the government promises of of "high tech trains".

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well this is very much happening, contract has been awarded to a german firm who will be building this, they are conducting the feasibilty report right now and construction should start this year and be completed after 2 years, then after its complete lahore will be connnected to karachi with it is well.

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Farid, I dont think PR will take on such new tracks that are not compatible with existing ones. sh rashid saying standard guage means standard for PR not in technical terms.

well one we all agree, mega projects happen cause of kick bags. but at the end something is left for public to use.

on the other hand - the elite will get dollers anyway. but people will not get anything at all.

and I think first option is still better. lesser of two evils. ganja left motorway, bibi didnt left anything, both looted Pakistan. so ganja was less evil than bb.

A slight hope for betterment of Pakistan is better then staying hopeless! Ideas float, doesnt become reality cause in consistant governments.

Someone commented on old design and building of bridges. Pakistanis can build mega structures though sometime with help of foreign contractors as normal with any mega projects around the world. live examples are M2, M1 and M3 , Mangla and Terbela Dams, Pakistan Steel Mills, Our nuke research and power stations.

Many would trust germans and other with building it.

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/\ /\ /\ /\ Well said killer Shah jee.......... We must not loose hope..... Take the positives learn from the negatives and dont always dwell on the negatives

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Shak Kills,

"Farid, I dont think PR will take on such new tracks that are not compatible with existing ones. sh rashid saying standard gauge means standard for PR not in technical terms."

Are you sure what minister or you talking about? PR has broad gauge on its system, not standard gauge which is somewhat smaller than the broad gauge. By the way Shinkansen (Bullet Train) runs mostly on bridge, ATO Control, track circuiting, special brake and suspension system and every car is powered. I wonder how much time would it take PR to make just one bridge from Lahore to Gujranwala in order to avoid trespassing? Covering track with fence for a train to run at 250 kmph from thickly populated areas means killing thousand of people daily.

Covering electrified track with fence seems to be an idea of retard person. In past PR had tried covering track with brick walls or fence. While travelling on train, you can see broken walls or fences where people who live nearby the track continue trespassing.

To me even spending foreign exchange on such a feasibility report is just waste of money and time.

FARID