As for stereotypes the untraditional woman is the western woman. Individualistic, materialistic, "en vogue", independent (alone in some cases), working and single. Do what you wish with stereotypes. The feminist movement and the idea of an untraditional woman is just another form of fascism based on stupid notions that one gender is better than the other.
i dont care what you label yourself, just decide what you want out of life and stick with it. everyone else can eat our hats. you want a career and all the trimmings that go with it, then fine, marry a guy that will let you do that. If you want to be home with your babies, marry a guy who will (respectfully) let you do that too. who cares whether they label it traditional, non-traditional, kafir whatever....people will talk no matter what you do. so decide what'll make you happy then go for it.
...and ps to you CM...the characteristics you mentioned....ie., materialistic, individualistic etc I've personally seen much more often in desi females. they want careers, pretty and expensive things, pricey cars, etc etc. dont attribute these things to only western women, just read some of the threads here abt what the gals expect in engagement rings, cars, earnings potential of rishtas etcc. not to say that this is a bad thing....just get your stereotypes in order man....or you may just find yourself rishta-ed to one of the type that you're describing insultingly as "western"....
CM--individualistic, materialistic, working and independent, is that really it?...there has to be more to it...u can be all that and be quite traditional as well!....:)
and mama, i am not saying anything abt how ppl shud think of themselves and come out of stereotypes etc....only there shud be some set standards, some yardstick, some clear stereotypical benchmarks that people shud meet before they dont sound stupid trying to think they are nontraditional and not simply nontraditional-minded...:)
Whoa hold on there. She wanted stereotypes who said that is what i define as non-traditional woman as? Ps. I don’t mind western women. I am considered a coconut by a great many desis. Would work well for me.
individualistic, materialistic, working and independent, is that really it?...there has to be more to it...u can be all that and be quite traditional as well!....
Of course. Look in your local community at the fat-arse aunties who leech off their husband's kamai. They are constantly comparing themselves with each other - competing for who has the latest BMW or Mercedes and who has the new house and where, etc. Also, let me not get started on the jewelry and gold these girls go crazy for - its all to show off.
Working, independent, and individualistic is a different matter. Pakistani traditional society encourages society first, individual second. So individualism is often saccrificed for society. Independent? In a joint family system? Yeah right.
Working? Uh, well if you mean working in the kitchen. Sure. I think what people usually mean by non-traditional "working" women is women working outside the home. Of course, taking care of a home and kids is definitely work - and its unfortunate that many ignore that.