Re: Non-Muslims and Shariah
My point is the whole idea behind somebody's interpretation of a religion should be applied across a whole nation is fatally flawed from the onset. The details really don't matter.
You mean like democracy, or notions of freedom...or any other aspect of law? This is a non-starter of an argument.
What is required is buy-in into a process. It's not easy; certainly wasn't for the West. But it won't be ONE person's concept...it will be the emergent result from a sanctioned body or bodies.
That's how it works.
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The world has moved away from ideologies such as facism, totalinarism, communism and religious states.
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Well, no not really. They may have moved away from economic models that typically went hand-in-hand with such ideologies, but they exist nonetheless.
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Because it's right. Because human rights, human dignity and freedom of choice are God given rights that will never go out of style.
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Come on now, don't tell me youre incapable of objective reasoning. These are strictly Western notions as far as it matters.
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Sorry, but no one is considering Pakistan, Indonesia or Dubai when referring to modern day implmentation of shariah law.
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Why, because it doesn't suit your argument? The point is, they have integrated Shariah. Deal with it.
Subjective? Sure. That's not the point, as it's a best-effort thing....
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Or should I say the rules of what people have interepreted from a religion.
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No...but they're more than willing to follow rules....derived from..what? Special interests I suppose.
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Something as personal, subjective and important as religion should be left up to the individual.
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Some parts, sure. But when religion mandates a set of laws, such things are no more an individual choice than secular laws.
This isn't an issue of choice. Laws never are.
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The US was mainly founded on this principle and the separation of religion and state is the underlying principle. It was never more apparent how correct that was as the recent example of Christian fundos influencing this administration.
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On the contrary, the Fundos were influenced by the neo-cons...not the other way around. I'm not getting warm and fuzzies 'cuz America is a secular state. It's still dangerous, and quite frankly openly threatens all those around it if they do not make themselves suberviant.
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Such a state would be diametrically opposed to the rest of the world. And the Islamic state from the begininng did not wait for others to attack before conquering a good part of the globe.
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Oh spare me...this is EXACTLY what other empires and nations were donig at the same time. Why this selective memory? It was what any good leader did at the time. Yes, Islam went through a rather primitive form of imperialism. Who didn't? Spare us.
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You are right. Thanks for allowing me another chance to rebutt... only an idiotic Muslim would think that rational, intelligent non-Muslims could not have some insight on this subject. America was founded 400 years ago to escape such persecution that comes with a religious state.
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Of course they can't, they're disinterested and as far as their concerned the solution lies in THEIR way. Naturally they have nothing to offer, except in terms of technical implementation divorced from any ideological facet.