*"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things. (The Noble Quran, 33:40)" *
Not an intent to start a flame war here. But I was just wondering how do Ahmadis respond to that Ayah. Do they ignore it, disbelieve it or get a more 'situation satisfying' translation?
thanks
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*Originally posted by bao bihari: *
We dont allege qadiyanees as kaffir ..it is a fact not only known to ulema but is also approved by supreme courts of various countries including south africa...............
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If it is not a typo, I request you to please elaborate this information. Thanks
Mr. Initiator,
The translation of Holy Quran you translated Khatam-ul-Nabiyeen as 'Seal of the prophets'. Ahmadi Muslim do the same translation of this word as you have done.
According to you 'seal of the prophets' mean absolutely the last prophet in physical sense but Ahmadis translate it as the 'greatest of all the prophets'. Thats the difference
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*Originally posted by Code_Red: *
If it is not a typo, I request you to please elaborate this information. Thanks
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In south africa....qadiyaness are declared as non muslims......by supreme court...
qadiyanees started their preaching in disguise of islam.......so ulema demanded that qadiyanees are non-muslims...qadiyanees went to court......and court after looooooong debate declared them kaffirs.......
guys i will make it really short and simple..Prophet (pbuh) did not mention any Prophet (pbuh) comin after him..He did say If there was a Prophet..it would be Imam Ali (a.s.) i can post the reference from a sahi sitta book if someone needs it..also He said He is leaving behind only TWO things..Quran and His Family..pata nahi yeh ghulam sahab kidher say aa gaye
Book 031, Number 5920:
Yazid b. Hayyan reported, I went along with Husain b. Sabra and 'Umar b. Muslim to Zaid b. Arqam and, as we sat by his side, Husain said to him: Zaid. you have been able to acquire a great virtue that you saw Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) listened to his talk, fought by his side in (different) battles, offered prayer behind me. Zaid, you have in fact earned a great virtue. Zaid, narrate to us what you heard from Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him). He said: I have grown old and have almost spent my age and I have forgotten some of the things which I remembered in connection with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), so accept whatever I narrate to you, and which I do not narrate do not compel me to do that. He then said: One day Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) stood up to deliver sermon at a watering place known as Khumm situated between Mecca and Medina. He praised Allah, extolled Him and delivered the sermon and. exhorted (us) and said: Now to our purpose. O people, I am a human being. I am about to receive a messenger (the angel of death) from my Lord and I, in response to Allah’s call, (would bid good-bye to you), but I am leaving among you two weighty things: the one being the Book of Allah in which there is right guidance and light, so hold fast to the Book of Allah and adhere to it. He exhorted (us) (to hold fast) to the Book of Allah and then said: The second are the members of my household I remind you (of your duties) to the members of my family. He (Husain) said to Zaid: Who are the members of his household? Aren’t his wives the members of his family? Thereupon he said: His wives are the members of his family (but here) the members of his family are those for whom acceptance of Zakat is forbidden. And he said: Who are they? Thereupon he said: 'Ali and the offspring of 'Ali, 'Aqil and the offspring of 'Aqil and the offspring of Ja’far and the offspring of 'Abbas. Husain said: These are those for whom the acceptance of Zakat is forbidden. Zaid said: Yes.
I have some questions.
Was it allowed for Prophet’s :saw: wifes to accept zakat ?
who are Aqil, Jafar and Abbas. And what is thier relation with prophet Muhammad :saw:
**NOTE These questions are not related to the hadees, but the conversation after the narration. **
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*Originally posted by Sheraz CT: *
also He said He is leaving behind only TWO things..Quran and His Family..pata nahi yeh ghulam sahab kidher say aa gaye
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as far as i knew the two things were "Quran and Prophet's Sunah", but anyway, my point here is....
maybe ghulam ahmed was also from the prophet's family....
wud shiaas then give him some regard????
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*Originally posted by bao bihari: *
In south africa....qadiyaness are declared as non muslims......by supreme court...
qadiyanees started their preaching in disguise of islam.......so ulema demanded that qadiyanees are non-muslims...qadiyanees went to court......and court after looooooong debate declared them kaffirs.......
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Bhi Mandella, Nelson Zindabad.
South Africa is a non Muslim country. I don't think
that they can be coerced by Muslim scholars there.
My opinion, the Supreme court decided WHAT was
true and just.
take care
Person who said that the South African court has declared as kafirs provide the evidence please, if you don't have any stop making claim without any evidence!!
i thought this may be interesting for those who wanted to know about the ruling made by a south african court
Please keep all discussions of the mahdi etc OUT of this thread. Period. Got problems - take it up with the Admin for the ten millionth time.