Re: Nobel Peace Prize for Malala
Peace follows when women are educated, since for the most part, they raise their children. Hence Malala's passioned approach towards getting girls access to education qualifies her for this award, IMO.
Peace.
Re: Nobel Peace Prize for Malala
Peace follows when women are educated, since for the most part, they raise their children. Hence Malala's passioned approach towards getting girls access to education qualifies her for this award, IMO.
Peace.
Peace Southie
The means do not justify the ends ... Yes, she calls for education which leads to peace, but she has been so doing in a way which is creating aggression ... hence it is her approach **not her goal **that disqualifies her from being recognised for promoting peace. It is not even her fault ... She is merely a puppet in the show.
Re: Nobel Peace Prize for Malala
Mallala do not accept this Jewish Propaganda associated slave recognition. You are a Phatan and Proud and Independent soul, resist this western slave prize!
People who shot Malala were pathaan too! Or no?
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Mullah Omar will get award the highest award a human can get love of ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW for defending Islam and Muslims for fighting their cause and not becoming tout of USA to get dollars and Nobel Peace Price
Mashallah Bro. Proud of you for supporting the jack ass who was beheading Muslims because his twisted version of Islam tells him that its ok to chop the head of another kalma-go. I think not only Mullah omar, but you should also get some kind of award.
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Yeah … and we don’t see the Taliban putting their hands up for being nominated either … 
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She used threatening language against the Taliban, presenting no argument forward from an Islamic point of view explaining WHY education for women is important.
You know when you make excuses for Taliban & justify their actions there is no room for discussion. Taliban are terrorist murderous scums & must be eliminated w/o any ifs and buts.
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I nominate Shamraz for Nobal Peace Prize. 
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Wow … Neither did I make excuses for Taliban nor did I justify their actions … I have been talking about Malala in this thread … 
And you need to watch that anger issue of yours …
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I doubt it was your intention, but the bolded parts sound like excuses for the taliban’s behavior: That is, that Malala’s protests incited them, so she was shot (given that they are pretty barbaric).
I’m also not sure what you mean by “if we accept the hype”? What hype are you referring to?
And also do you really think that if she said what you wrote (the religious appeal to the taliban), that they would have listened and it would have suddenly dawned on them to allow girls to get educated?
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Peace partyslims
Let me get this clear … When we speak and write it is important to know how to extract information properly.
Firstly, if you look at my previous posts I have been saying that Taliban should be overtaken by ground troops …
Secondly, I’m not entirely sure who the Taliban are … How can I support them or even make excuses for them if I don’t know who they are?
Thirdly, I was talking about Malala in this thread …
Now here is the logic part … So please read carefully …
There is a tiger in a cage … A sign on the cage says “do not put fingers through the wire” … Then someone does just that and gets their finger eaten … Who is responsible? The tiger? The person who wrote the note? Or the person who clearly did the opposite?
By writing the note is the person making excuses for the tiger’s action? No … It is a prediction …
ok … But the Taliban are not animals right?
fair enough …
Consider 2 children both are naughty … let’s call them Sami and Yusuf … I tell Sami not to provoke Yusuf or else Yusuf will hit him, I also tell Yusuf not provoke Sami or else Sami will hit him …
Then one day Sami is crying as Yusuf has hit him … I ask Yusuf why he hit him, Yusuf says that Sami provoked him … Now I totally hold Yusuf responsible for hitting Sami, but Sami gets blamed for provoking him … By telling Sami off for not listening to my guidance I am not making excuses for Yusuf … That is another matter.
This argument is the one of action …
The action of Malala was wrongly phrased … If she wanted to provoke them then achieved that, but if she wanted to ask for a school then she could have said it nicely … Unfortunately for her, but she knew this in advance anyway, she became a target due to her provocation.
By saying she is wrong I am NOT saying they were right … Please think less in binary mode … Even the statement of Bush was wrong … “You are either with us or with the terrorists” … This means he has ruled out the third option … “Not with either of them” …
The fact is that Shamraz knows my position but when he can’t argue with me … He starts off this Taliban sympathiser response in his attempt to get me angry …
Re: Nobel Peace Prize for Malala
Psyah.. Thanks for taking the time to write all that and explain your point of view.
Yes, I did not read the part about you stating that Taliban should be taken over by ground troops. Your post that I referred to gave a slight hint that just because they are the taliban and they were provoked it made sense that they shot a girl. This is the reason I asked you about it, so thanks for the clarification on that.
I have no problem in admitting I am very biased against them and think they are scum. Their rule of domination over women, and even harming people who don’t grow beards, is very barbaric to me.
Also if you don’t know who the taliban are, then why would you be suggesting ways to engage them in (talking about your sample letter that you thought should have been written) ? I’m not really sure of what you meant when you say that (that you don’t know who they are). Do you mean you don’t know them personally? OR something else?
In your point of view as you stated, you are saying Malala was wrong (bolded bit below in your quote) because she should have known that the taliban are considered to be dangerous. And to provoke them in the manner she did, the people who are around her would know the consequences would be dire for her. In that sense I agree that her father and whoever else she may be getting her ideas from should have had her back. Yet, I still think what she did was courageous, and had more guts than most of us ever could and will. To stand up against tyranny and opression is the purest sense of Islam in my eyes.
I agree with your non binary way of thinking as the world is full of shades of gray, and certainly not black and white. But for me, in this case, things are pretty black and white. Malala right, taliban wrong. I am not sure what you mean by your thrid option of “neither of them” in this case. If you just meant in general, then that’s another matter, but since you brought it up in this discussion, I am not clear on what you meant.
Again, thanks for taking the time to explain what you meant, and I probably did not pick up on some of it so sorry about that.
Re: Nobel Peace Prize for Malala
you say anything against the point of view of the "peace lover liberals" and you become taliban supporter. you reply them back, and they promote you to being taliban. you write further and become al qaida and after that they run out of honors to give you, so they start arguing "why are you using internet, its invented by the west" lolz amazing people we have here
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Mallala is still a child, she doesn't know the complexities that go on and the machinations that she maybe a part of. She was promoted as a "voice" for the liberalization of women in the northwest region, which is a open invitation from the Taliban to get shot at. She was used and then the west had another reason to "poo poo" the barbaric Taliban once again and a justification for the drone attacks.
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im still trying to understand how anything she has done would qualify her for a Nobel 
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Peace Southie
The means do not justify the ends ... Yes, she calls for education which leads to peace, but she has been so doing in a way which is creating aggression ... hence it is her approach **not her goal **that disqualifies her from being recognised for promoting peace. It is not even her fault ... She is merely a puppet in the show.
Her approach has nor CREATED aggression. The aggression is ever present. I am disappointed you would make her responsible for the aggressive conduct of the concerned party. In fact in light of this aggressive adversary, her courage to achieve the goal of getting equal access to education for women - which is a necessary for peace- automatically qualifies her for the highest peace award.
It is really high time you point the fingers where the ought to be pointed at.
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Her approach has nor CREATED aggression. The aggression is ever present. I am disappointed you would make her responsible for the aggressive conduct of the concerned party. In fact in light of this aggressive adversary, her courage to achieve the goal of getting equal access to education for women - which is a necessary for peace- automatically qualifies her for the highest peace award.
It is really high time you point the fingers where the ought to be pointed at.
Aggression is present, but its like putting a spark in a heap of gun powder.
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Please do elaborate.
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Aggression is present, but its like putting a spark in a heap of gun powder.
Or it is like showing unbelievable courage in the face of adversity.
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I share shamraz’s sentiments. So I guess that makes it the two of us who have to “watch that anger issue”.
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OK people, someone enlighten me here. The girl gets shot because someone doesn't like what she wrote. And that qualifies her for the Nobel Peace Prize? How? What has she done? So we are comparing her with the likes of Abdul Sattar Edhi who have devoted their life and energy to "serve" their people?
We can help Malala by helping her better her life, facilitating her higher education, etc... but Nobel Prize...I dunno. Maybe I am missing something here.