Re: "No to Ninja Nuisance" ?
Laeeqkhan: Brother don’t get upset :) .. Well, you believe that Niqab is Islamic dress. Some also believe that Quran and Hadith made Niqab a requirement for Muslim women. There are some that believe that it is a frad requirement for Muslim women to wear Niqab. No problem, for arguments sake, let say that Niqab is an Islamic dress and any women that do not have Niqab are not fulfilling their Islamic duty.
Now, please do not get abusive, being abusive to others in discussion is not an Islamic attitude. Please try to answer with decency and defend your belief. Islam is missionary religion (religion that encourages Muslims to invite others towards Islam) and that means explaining and convincing others about Islamic beliefs and practices.
Now, try to explain and convince what you believe. Please tell us all on the forum that if Niqab is Islamic dress and a requirement for women, why it is not allowed for a woman do Hajj (or Umra) in Niqab? Why Allah forbid Niqab in Hajj?
If Niqab saves men from getting distracted and save women from molestation, should that not apply during Hajj too, where millions of men and women perform a fard duty together in house of Allah?
Obviously human character does not change even when performing Hajj. Many go on Hajj/Umra but with purpose to do business. Many go there and beg. Many go there but try to look for job there. Many disappear so that they can earn a bit of this world there. There are reports of mugging and theft during Hajj. Even kuffars of Mecca use to perform Haj and Umra.
Thus, what ever could happen anywhere else could happen during Hajj and Umra too. No one can say that if men could get distracted by seeing face of women, they would not get distracted by seeing face of women during Hajj or umra. If Niqab is for safety of women from perverts, that should apply during Hajj and Umra too, rather more so, and thus Allah would have made Niqab a requirement.
Well, Hajj is one of the duties Muslim performs, usually once in lifetime. Don’t you think that if Niqab for women was part of Islam, Allah would have made Niqab a requirement during Hajj too (in some people belief, to protect men from distraction)? Hajj, where millions of men and women move together, next to each other, don’t you think that to save men from distraction and women from molestation, this requirement of Niqab should have been most required?
If you can give convincing answer to the above question it would be appreciated.
You might say that men are also not required full dressing during Hajj. That is not true. Actually, men are required to cover their body during Hajj, what Allah requires men to cover in front of na-mahram (from knee to navel), while it is same for women too (cover themselves what Allah require them to cover from na-mahram).
What I believe is that, anything more than what is required by Allah to cover, is personal preference and what custom and society accepts. Islam does not allow or forbid anything over what Allah requires as minimum. One can move around covered from head to toe or cover as much as Hajj dressing (minimum what Allah tell Muslim to cover), it would be fine.
If Niqab is acceptable in society one can wear Niqab, be that person Muslim or non-Muslim, men or women, criminals or innocents, good or evil, but to were Niqab believing it to be requirement by Allah is wrong, as if it was the case, Niqab would have been a must during Hajj, but (surprisingly) Niqab is disallowed during Hajj.
That is what anyone has written here all along (with explanations), that Niqab is nothing to do with Islam, or what Allah requires, but it is a dressing that some likes and some do not. However it is up to society if they accept people walking in public places behind Niqab or not. If society would accept that, anyone can use Niqab to move around, be that person men, women, good, bad, or evil. If society does not like that people can move around in Niqab unrecognised, society can stop that.
Well, I do agree that if society allows Niqab, it would be an advantage for many and in such situation I would recommend all men to keep Niqab handy all the time. Who knows, if one cannot find male toilet empty, they can put on Niqab and go to female toilet too. If soceity allows Niqab, I am sure that no one would dare to check who is behind Niqab. It would be an easy solution than waiting and holding oneself until toilet is available (a practical advantage, at least for men, in having Niqab legally acceptable).
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