No Sir no...you can't have your cake and eat it too!

[Captain1]

Re: No Sir no…you can’t have your cake and eat it too!

@Beeb

They could not stop them because fighting terrorists isn’t like fighting an army. They hide amongst the people. I don’t get your point. I realise English isn’t your first language but its really difficult to understand what your argument is.

Yes English is not my strong point, same is the case with my ability to explain things/events. The point is “terrorists” are not going to create a “village” or “town” or “housing/compound” for themselves to become an easy target for any stronger army, they will live within civilians. War in any country will create reactionary forces. There were no terrorists in Iraq before US’s invasion of Iraq, but when they devastated Iraq and removed its government it became an open field for every powerful criminal to carve out an area for his control as well as invite “jihadis” from around the world.

@Samir_Mirchandani

This is why I said don’t bring in Iraq into this discussion as all it does is allow obfuscation. We cannot discuss Iraq adequately here because the topic is something else and we are unable to discuss the topic on hand because some of you keep reaching and derailing.

No USA is not responsible for creating terrorists whether it be in Iraq or Pakistan. Yeah if they stay in Iraq or Pakistan they can certainly subdue the terrorists but then you all will start shouting western imperialism and hegemony if they do that.

Why is it so difficult for you all to readily agree that using terrorism as a strategy and not be bitten by it, as has been happening in Pakistan, have been proven impossible, akin to eating the cake and wanting to have it. You have to either give up terrorism or keep getting bitten by it - isn’t the answer straight forward?

When STEM is not taught, whether it is a Madrassah or western school, you cannot have engineers. You have to either add STEM or import engineers.

When you don’t produce oil but consume it, you either have to import it or stop consuming it.

Both Iraq and Afghanista/Iraq have a parallel, it has to be brought into discussion. Iraq’s example is a clear indication that you can’t eliminate terrorists by bombing. US had full authority and full fledge army in Iraq but still failed to control terrorism. Now lets move to Afghanistan, US keeps harping about Pakistan playing double game to deflect its failures in Afghanistan but at the same time it shies away from failure in Iraq.