No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

Re: America denies visa to Gujarat CM Modi

hahaha society??? wht the ****…u meant after killing so many muslims and raping thousands of muslims women , u r talking abt society…u r a fool ignorant..
this is the fact tht even ur “moderate” hindus did not use their powers to control extremists..in other words,they allowed them to killed muslims and u extremist hindus did ur “bravery” in 800 villages and completely erasing many families..

this is a fact tht when eva u hindus see muslims becoming stronger in business and society ,they destroy them by proper plan..grow up u typical indian

No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

USA has once again insulted whole India by rejecting its request to review its decision to deny a visa to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi. What a slap on India’s face…if i were Indian, i would be extremely embarrassed…plus this decision has also affirmed that the Indian government was involved in gujrat’s roit and it did not perform its duties to save the lives of its own citizens….and the worst aspect of this whole story is that given the profile of this incidence, the whole world has come to known of Modi and minority killings in India. Very very very shameful for India…..I really feel sorry for my Indian friends…..hayee becharray….world’s largest democracy aur usss kay “democratically elected leader” kay satth aissa salook……toba toba……itni beaizziti…..this is not fair…..dekho zara kasiaee bhagoo bhagoo kay jootay maray hann inn harami americans nay hammaray masoom Indians ko ….American ambassador Mulford said in a press conference today:

“US is deeply appreciative of the role that the BJP and the Vajpayee government in particular, played in opening the way for the positive transformation in US-India relations The Ministry of External Affairs requested the Department of State to review the decision to revoke his (Modi’s) tourist/business visa. Upon review, the State Department reaffirmed the original decision.”

I know why American have done that…..lately Indian is trying to confirm its status as a mini superpower (also tryin to get the membership of security council blah blah)…and America wants to show the whole world kay KON MALIK HA and KON BHANGIEE HA…sacch kaha kissiee nay bhnagiee hameshha bhangiee hee rehta ha…..Bhot bura kiya ha ameiicns nay…I am with my Indian friends……

( Mods, i know we aleady have a thread for Modi’s rejection but i thought that another rejection deserves another thread…anyway, do whatever you guys want to do with this thread. thanks)

No offence meant but can’t let Modi in: US
Mulford: Turns down Indian request to review visa denial, points to riot reports; MEA says judgment selective
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Posted online: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 at 0000 hours IST

mulford NEW DELHI, MARCH 21: Creating ripples in New Delhi’s political circles, the United States today rejected India’s request to review its decision to deny a visa to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

Despite a formal demarche by New Delhi asking Washington to reconsider, US Ambassador to India David Mulford said his government had reaffirmed its earlier position.

Explaining the reasons for denying Modi a visa, Mulford cited reports documenting the failure of the Gujarat government during the 2002 riots.

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Reacting to the Ambassador’s statement, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said this ‘‘disregards the fact of the constitutional position of the Chief Minister of Gujarat as a democratically elected leader and appears to be based on selective judgment’’.

While regretting the US decision, New Delhi said ‘‘democratic tradition and practice must uphold the dignity of political office that is by a result of elections and has the mandate of the people of that country or state.’’

Earlier, Mulford, in his statement, said: ‘‘The Ministry of External Affairs requested the Department of State to review the decision to revoke his (Modi’s) tourist/business visa. Upon review, the State Department reaffirmed the original decision.’’

He clarified that the decision applied only to Modi and not to the BJP or the Gujarati community.

Mulford pointed out that the decision was based on the fact that as head of the Gujarat government between February and May 2002, ‘‘he (Modi) was responsible for the performance of state institutions at that time’’.

The State Department’s detailed views on this matter, he said, were included in its annual country reports on human rights practices and the International Religious Freedom Report.

Both reports document the violence in Gujarat from February to May 2002 and cite the Indian National Human Rights Commission report which, Mulford said, records that there was ‘‘comprehensive failure on the part of the state government to control the persistent violation of rights to life, liberty, equality and dignity of the people of the state.’’

Mulford said that the US was ‘‘deeply appreciative of the role that the BJP and the Vajpayee government in particular, played in opening the way for the positive transformation in US-India relations’’.

He underlined that this decision also had no bearing on the Gujarati community, noting that the US has ‘‘great respect’’ for the many successful Gujaratis who live and work in that country. Thousands of these Gujaratis are issued visas each month, he said.

Pointing to the growth in Indo-US ties, Mulford said that the denial of visa to Modi does not in any manner undermine the vision both countries share about a broad strategic relationship in the future.

He said US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has spelt out this vision which seeks to help India achieve its goals as one of the ‘‘world’s great multi-ethnic democracies’’.

The US had denied a diplomatic visa to Modi last Friday on the grounds that he was coming for a purpose that did not merit this type of a visa. Modi was to address a conference hosted by the Asian-American Hoteliers Association. He had been granted political clearance by New Delhi.

The US also cancelled Modi’s tourist/business visa under a section of the Immigration and Nationality Act which makes any foreign government official who has been ‘‘responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom’’ ineligible for visa.

India had objected to the US decision and Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran had called US Deputy Chief of Mission Robert Blake to convey this as well as seek an ‘‘urgent reconsideration’’. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, speaking in Parliament, had also asked Washington to review its decision.

India made it clear that though it was the sovereign right of a country to grant visas, it did not find the US decision in keeping with the objectives both countries shared as democracies.

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=66898&headline=US~turns~down~Indian~request

Re: America denies visa to Gujarat CM Modi

anjaan typing the same post 5 times in one thread is not productive try some new one liners i am sure you are capable of that.

I am glad some hindus feel guilty for what happened in Gujerat because it shows india in its true lighe torn by sectarian violence it just needs one little spark to let the mob rule come out in droves Gujerat, Babri, etc.

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

Mods, can you merge this with the other thread on Modi please :rolleyes:

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

abay ho jayee kee merge…faqar mat kar…itni jaldi kaya ha…

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

my first merge :blush:

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

there you go…good start…

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

Quoted from PD
“I really feel sorry for my Indian friends…..hayee becharray….world’s largest democracy aur usss kay “democratically elected leader” kay satth aissa salook……toba toba……itni beaizziti…..this is not fair…..dekho zara kasiaee bhagoo bhagoo kay jootay maray hann inn harami americans nay hammaray masoom Indians ko”

:dixsi:
should have been kept in a seperate thread

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

don’t cream your pants just yet, the reality is that apart from Modi’s local supporters…no Indians care, nor will it affect India in any way. you must understand the difference between the pakistani and indian value of the U.S’s opinion.

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

religious freedom around the world

http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/publications/rfiw/map.htm

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

UK reads the riot act to Narendra Modi

NEW DELHI: Though Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi has not been denied an entry in the UK, all’s still not well.

Jeff Wilson, spokesman of the British High Commission said, “He had an existing visa and we saw no reason to deny him the right to travel on this visa, provided he travels to the UK within the period of its validity.”

However, the High Commission was quick to add a caveat.

Jeff Wilson said, “We have a working policy to have no contact with the Gujarat state government. It is because of our concerns over what happened in Gujarat.”

The British High Commission conducted an internal inquiry after the Gujarat riots in February 2002.

The inquiry was triggered after a British national of Gujarati origin died in the violence. Though the contents of the report have not been disclosed, it estimates the death toll close to 2,000.

Modi has plans of travelling to the UK end of this week to participate in the “Vibrant Gujarat” celebrations.

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

Modi’s 36 hrs in UK can be stormy

On Tuesday, secular and civil liberties groups, including South Asia Solidarity, threatened to protest everywhere he went and Suresh Grover of the secular campaign group ‘Awaaz’ renewed his pledge to get Modi arrested once he sets foot in the UK. But even as the British Foreign Office stolidly stood by its commitment to allow Modi to visit within “the bounds of law” and the period of validity" of his visa, an only marginally-flustered spokesman began the business of passing the buck.

Re: No offence meant but can’t let Modi in - Another rejection for Modi

I don't think that the Gujaratis in the US invited him because of his action (or inaction) in the Gujarat riots. Whoever was the Gujarat chief minister would have been invited. So is the case with the Gujarat festival in the UK. The invitation hence does not mean that they necessarily support his actions

My opinion, as an Indian:
1) The US was right in denying him a visa
2) The government of India was right in objecting to this. After all there are no legal procedures against Modi personally; the commission enquiring about the reports is yet to finalise its findings. Moreover, would it be ok if the US rejected a visa to the CM of West Bengal just because they don't like communists. If such a thing had happened, the GOI was bound to protest. From that perspective, the situation is similar
3) The US was right in sticking to their guns

This seems to be the opinion of most of the mainstream media in India as well