No LFO-No Speaker Go

This was good, just shows how powerful the opposition is in this government.

‘No-LFO-no, go-speaker-go’

http://www.dawn.com/2003/text/fea.htm#1

M. Ziauddin

An in-session parliament costs the exchequer approximately about Rs8,000 a minute, according to a rough estimate produced over a cup of tea in parliament’s cafeteria by PML-Q’s minority MNA from Rawalpindi, M.P. Bhandara, known as Mino Bhandara. He seems to have included in the estimate even the notional rent for the space as well as utility charges and salaries of the secretariat staff besides the allowances and perks of members.

He is, therefore, very sad at the way the time of the house is being ‘wasted’ on ‘irrelevancies’. He says he has written a detailed letter to the relevant persons inviting their attention to this ‘waste’ and telling them that it was precisely for this reason that previous parliaments could not complete their tenures.

If one went by Mr Bhandara’s estimate, the loss to the exchequer on Wednesday would be a colossal Rs2.5 million because from the very word go the opposition made it impossible for the house to take up any of the subjects on the list in the Order of the Day. Even the question hour was set aside. And finally the speaker had to call it a day around 8:30pm without disposing of any business, to meet again on Friday at 10am.

Within minutes of the commencement of the sitting the hall started echoing with cries of ‘No-LFO-No’, ‘Go-speaker-Go’ and ‘Go-Musharraf-Go’. And all through the sitting, which was adjourned twice, once for Maghrib prayers and again for the opposition and the ruling alliance to meet and come to some kind of settlement on the contentious issue of the LFO, the opposition kept chanting these slogans. At times they were even heard calling out ‘Allah-o-Akber’

One could clearly see that the house was seemingly being given a taste of what is to be expected on the day the president would come to parliament to address the joint sitting. But then such a session is hardly likely to take place in a hurry because the opposition has already warned that it will not allow parliament to function unless the speaker announced his ruling on the LFO which he has kept reserved for almost three months now.

Mr Bhandara’s concerns about financial losses appear legitimate. And one would like to agree with him that it was because of the failure of previous parliaments to accomplish serious legislative work that they did not last long. But then what does a parliament do when it has no legislative work to do? That is exactly the dilemma the present parliament is facing. All the legislative work which it was supposed to be handling has already been done by Pakistan’s army chief who was elected to the office of the president through a questionable referendum last year.

In such a situation what would members do with their time in the NA if they are stopped even from misusing their right to discuss ‘irrelevancies’ on points of order? Members are not even allowed to discuss the LFO in the house. They have been asked to muster two-thirds majority to throw it out. And by ruling that the Provisional Constitutional Order (which does not exist any more) empowered the COAS to amend the constitution the Supreme Court which itself does not have the right to make laws or amend the constitution has rendered the elected house redundant and by implication told the members that they are there only to provide the label of democracy to the military ruler.

The members who were agitating on Wednesday in the NA perhaps do not like to be the willing collaborators in such a cover up. Interestingly, even the members of the ruling alliance appeared totally indifferent to the plight of the speaker on Wednesday. He was provided no help from the treasury benches. One could see Water and Power Minister Aftab Sherpao of PPP-S, who has a huge stake in the new set-up, trying to get things sorted out. But no other minister appeared to be listening to him.

In fact, at one stage, Mr Sherpao was seen giving up the effort in a huff. Some of the ruling alliance partners like Nasir Chattha, Tahirul Qadri and even Sher Afgan Khan Niazi of PPPP-Patriots were seen siding with the opposition. The chief whip of the ruling alliance, Abdul Sattar Laleka, appeared too busy without doing anything. Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed went out of the hall and was seen spewing venom against the opposition in the corridors while talking to journalists.

A visitor who had seen it all since 1985 said he had not witnessed such a scene in the National Assembly ever before. One tends to agree with him because what had happened during the joint sitting addresses of Ghulam Ishaq Khan and Farooq Leghari, in retrospect look like child’s play compared to what happened on Wednesday.

The way the opposition behaved on Wednesday it appeared as if it was not only the LFO which had provoked them. The MMA, at least, was furious because on Tuesday the prime minister had implied publicly that there was a link between Al Qaeda and Jamaat-i-Islami by recalling that all the three big fish of the Al Qaeda were arrested at the houses of JI workers.

The PPP was also enraged because of the prime minister’s relentless attacks on Benazir Bhutto. The prime minister keeps on expressing his earnest desire to take every one along, including the opposition, but never misses an opportunity to throw a left hook at them in public. But then perhaps, he too does not have much to say in public other than hit out at the opposition.

These very same people fought the elections under the LFO. The MMA have accepted 22 of the 29 provisions of the LFO already in their ongoing negotiatons with the PML (Q), and you can bet your bottom dollar that either the MMA or the PPP-P will accept the LFO in the coming months, as soon as they get some of their demands met.

All this is for show, and wait for those principled MMA or PPP-P lot cosying upto Musharraf not far down the line...:)

Can someone tell me any provision of the LFO that is not acceptable? Or ilegal? Or immoral?

The MMA have accepted 22 of the 29 provisions of the LFO, and the only bones of contention are the discretionary powers of the President, the NSC and Musharraf remaining COAS. The ongoing negotiatons are moving towards a compromise on the President’s powers and the NSC and have boiled down to Musharraf remaining COAS. Once he annonces a date for retiring as COAS the MMA particularly will accept the LFO and start singing the praises of President Musharraf. The PPP-P also is willing to accept the LFO, but it wants a deal for Benazir Bhutto and Zardari as well which Musharraf will not countenance. Here is a piece in today’s The News from an opposition point of view:-

*Dispassionately speaking, a win-win deal between the Opposition and the government over the LFO is still possible. The ease with which the Army moved in on October 12, 1999, had compelled many to appreciate the worth of the Eighth Amendment that empowered a president to dismiss the National Assembly in “his discretion.” With some changes, Jamalis of this world can also sell a modified version of the National Security Council. And no one would seriously oppose the continuation of General Musharraf as the President. But he would never get this without at least giving a “specific date,” by which he plans to quit the Army. **I have it from highly reliable sources that notwithstanding the hawkish posturing, some MMA leaders keep negotiating for a deal on the LFO with Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain. “The last offer,” they reportedly had, made the suggestion that before coming for an address to the joint parliamentary sitting, General Musharraf could announce the date of December 31, 2003 for switching to Mufti.

It is not the MMA only that had been engaged in very discreet bargaining. The PPPP leader, Makhdoom Amin Fahim, is also being heard for another time. Early last week, he had an exhaustive one-to-one meeting with Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain at a spaciously posh house at the Embassy Road in Islamabad**. This house belongs to a wealthy businessman-cum-honorary counsel of a Baltic state. Some conspiracy theorists rather insist it was to “sabotage” Shujaat’s initiative for re-engaging Fahim in political talks that “the NAB was winked” to remind the world that Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali Zardari were “corrupt” and stashed their “ill-gotten millions” at the Swiss banks. The denial of passport to Nawaz Sharif for traveling to London is also perceived in the same context.*

So it seems that most parties accept the LFO. I wonder what all the commotion is about then? If they accept more than 80% of it, how can it be the end of democracy in Pakistan. When did we have democracy? :rolleyes:

Exactly. Let’s not forget that people like Qazi sahib who now go on about “ain ki baladasti” an all that were willing particpants in General Zia’s suspension of the 1973 constitution and ruling according to the PCO etc. They even supported his referendum in 1984. Hypocrites.

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Exactly. Let's not forget that people like Qazi sahib who now go on about "ain ki baladasti" an all that were willing particpants in General Zia's suspension of the 1973 constitution and ruling according to the PCO etc. They even supported his referendum in 1984. Hypocrites.
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Hmm, so the MMA leaders Like Qazi Hussain were suporting Zia when he over threw the Pakistani constitution. Now suddenly they are trying to argue on principle? Interesting.

Yes, not just the MMA leaders who were champions of General Zia and his overthrow of the Pakistani constitution, but almost the entire lot who call themselves PML (Nawaz/Noon). I posted this in a topic last year during the time of Musharraf’s referendum:-‘Major political and religious leaders support referendum’?](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23276&highlight=qazi)

As I said hypocrites…

There upto there usual habits...don't want to work for the betterment of poor..instead yell like idiots...

what is LFO? Can't Musharaf simply say that's the way it is?

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_7-3-2003_pg7_36
Retire honourably, lawyers warn CJ

g Tell judges to take money from them to retire

  • Warn of constitutional crisis

Staff Report

LAHORE: The lawyers throughout Pakistan will observe a Black Day on Saturday, (March 8) to protest against General Musharraf’s Legal Framework Order (LFO) and against the extension in the judges retirement age.

The lawyers will observe the day on March 8 because the chief justice (CJ) of Pakistan should retire on that day under the 1973 Constitution, but the CJ’s stay has been prolonged by another three years, announced lawyers at a press conference of the Supreme Court Bar Association (SCBA) on Thursday.

Vice chairman of the Pakistan Bar Association (PBA) Mian Abbass, SCBA president Hamid Khan, vice chairman of the Punjab Bar Council Chaudhry Arif, president of the Lahore High Court Bar Association (LHCBA) Hafiz Abdul Rehman Ansari, LHCBA secretary Muzzamal Shabbir Akhtar, and other bar members like Chaudhry Muhammad Ramzan, Kazim Khan, Shahid Mahmud Bhatti and Tariq Aziz were present at the conference.

Hamid Khan said the bar associations will hoist black flags on their buildings and the lawyers will wear black badges on March 8. He said lawyers will strike for one hour from 11 am to 12 noon and they would rally in protest and would burn copies of the LFO throughout Pakistan.

He said if the CJ did not resign under the legal Constitution of Pakistan, it would undermine the credibility and independence of the judiciary.

He said it was regrettable that despite repeated letters from bar representatives, the chief justice has so far given no indication that he would retire to avert the constitutional crises.

Mr Khan also condemned the nomination of Justice Mansoor Ahmed, the federal law secretary, to the international criminal tribunal for Rwanda and termed it a gross abuse of authority, as a judge with less than one years’ standing could not be nominated for such an office.

He said the toppling of civil governments by army generals would continue till the dictator generals and abettors from the judiciary who validate their (dictator’s) rules were not tried and sentenced under charges of high treason.

Mian Abbass, PBC vice chairman, said the lawyers were ready to collect funds equivalent in amount to the perks and emoluments the judges would get in the next three years and give it to the judges if they retired.

He said what could be said about the credibility of a chief justice who accepted luncheons from a corrupt person like Sadiq Sikandar who was dismissed from service under the charges of corruption by the Lahore High Court (LHC).

Politicians want to loot agqin

The politicians don’t want qny checks on them so that they can loot the country once again. Does it make any difference to the common man whether the LFO is there or not?