Lol why do you girls get so defensive..don’t understand..you gkrls never ever contribute to the discussion when female behavior is questioned..and just get offended..there is nothing wrong with being self critical sometimes..if you think something is being said that is factually incorrect then inform us men so that we can understand the female perspective and why girls do the stuff they do sometimes because that’s how their behavior is being intrepreted and perceived by others so make us understand rather than getting offended..you girls getting offended just validates what is being said..bc if it was completely incorrect there woukd be nothing to get offended about
Being self-critical and introspective is an admirable trait. But people are rarely introspective. Instead, without looking at their own flaws, they make negative generalizations about whole groups. You know the whole adage of not throwing stones, if one lives in glass houses? That’s the whole point is! An observation is one thing, but sweeping generalizations are another and absolutely I’ll take the time to point out the hypocrisy.
If you take this logic then nothing can ever be discussed because everyone has faults and negative traits and woukd be labeled a hypocrite becuase no one is perfect. Generalizations are bad when they actually cause prejudice against that group, but discussing and editorializing trends in behavior is NOT a bad thing as its made out to be on this forum. Discussions about human behavior provides a lot of insight and better understanding of why people are doing what they’re doing and when girls get defensive every time a female behavior is questioned it stifles discussion and understanding of their perspective.
Coming from a female (who doesn’t do snaps of random parts btw) it’s more likely the girls in question are just shy or worried about being judged than purdah because they’re religious so no, there isn’t hypocrisy there because it’s not usually even about modesty..
i don’t understand why it’s a little bit difficult for you to comprehend that in a few threads, women HAVE agreed with you about the “girls trend” that you so often mention. yeah, we get it. in your eyes, girls flaunt it all, they don’t even do dupatta anymore, they keep nothing private anymore, they are always wanting attention and then they become stuck up, are non-traditional and most of them can’t understand the concept of commitment.
and before you accuse me of getting offended.. i actually do think that even average women get a lot of attention these days and therefore can become stuck up more easily, having said that.. i don’t think it’s something that has affected majority of them. there’s a fair amount who don’t fall into that stuff, and yes these are “modern/conservative” females. said it before, but perhaps broaden your circle.
Disagree. A thoughtful discussion does not make generalizations. It looks at each situation without making sweeping statements like: majority of girls or most Punjabis or most Mohajirs or most UK girls or most hijabis or most mullahs. Generalizations are rarely made to forward a constructive discussion - rather it’s to divide and give one the ability to judge another. So yeah, I stand by what I said.
^I think it depends, Sehrysh. When one speaks of their own experiences, it’s based on what they’ve “generally” seen. And general trends do exist in society. There’s a difference between promoting a generalization or stereotype…and trying to understand why that perception or phenomenon exists or what’s causing it. The latter can help to implement change, develop greater sensitivity, even remove stereotypes etc.
I don’t mind showing my face but I like being anonymous here. It has nothing to do with being pardedaar or whatever. I don’t want people finding out who I am and then start stalking me. A lot of my relatives visit this forum. Those worthy of seeing my face have already seen it. Stop being jealous now
The comments are editorialized and juxtaposed with my own opinions and how I perceive their behavior. Clearly how another person perceives it may be completely different–I recognize that. It’s not a judgment, I’m not saying these girls are commiting sin or should be punished, I just state how I perceive their behavior and my opinion regarding it (we all have likes and dislikes about certain personality traits no?and for me, such behavior is not classy and then I comment on why I think these girls act this way (i.e. for attention and validation). Thats like the basic outline of most of my posts. I would love to hear from a girl who posts a lot of pictures of herself on facebook and hear a honest self reflction about why she thinks she posts so many pictures. Does it make her feel good getting attention and likes from other? Does she do it to get attention from opposite sex? Does she do it to compete with other girls to show that she’s more happening? Does she do it because she’s bored? Would love to hear her perspective as long as it was a honest self reflection of her behavior. It would provide a lot of insight and understanding.
People who post their lips, gurday phaipray etc etc but not full face is due to the reason other than parda. They do not want to be identified in case “someone they know” is on the forum. People tend to speak more freely when they know they cannot be traced back in real life.
Man, you seriously need to change your circle. You know too many weird women. I don’t know anyone who posts selfies after selfies or post any suggestive pictures for attention. Anyone can be insecure, men or women. It’s not gender specific. I agree that women are more insecure about their looks so need constant validation. But just because you come across a photo of someone’s lips, eyes, ears, hair, or whatever, don’t immediately jump to the conclusion that this person is insecure. That’s the problem I am seeing in this thread. It’s not that your generalization is wrong but you guys need to stop judging every woman because of you have been burnt by them one too many times.
You don’t see girls talking about personal issues (labor, nursing, suhag raat concerns) openly on facebook either. Here, they can, and many do. It’s because GS provides this unique platform where you can get close enough to people to trust their opinion, yet remain far away for them not to know who you are.
On facebook, if you are a lalloo pansaari but act like superman, people would call you a loser. Here they call you the ex-director. Ahem.
most of the angrez ladies dont hide their faces … no one got stalked yet or kidnapped or murdered… its just these desis with double standards …most of the times their family, friends, relatives, online friends .. all know about they have a youtube channel & they blog … most of the times youtubers/bloggers give their address so their fans/followers/subscribers can send them gifts, cards etc etc … n these youtubers/bloggers get approached by different brands where they ask them to promote their product & sometimes model for them too… these desis gals dont want to show their face as they are hijabans … claimed to be shareef … bla bla … whats the purpose of hijab? to make duck faces , pouty mouths & put on loud lipsticks & make up to promote different brands? good…its pointless to wear the hijab if thats the case … these ladies go out of the way to look attractive by putting loud make up but just because they are wearing hijab .. its all cool…
And they don’t even wear hijab.
