No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

FoS – Freedom of Speech
IPR- Intellectual Property Rights

There should be no ban on Bollywood or anyother woo-wood films, books, or TV. If they are vulger slap them with a bad rating.

We all need to strive for a nation that respect literature and literary FoS.

Due to all these bans, bollywood films are pirated. Lift the ban and protect IPR.

Due to the violation of IPR, Pakistani government loses $million revenue as the trade of pirated stuff is all underground.

Bottom line:

FoS is needed for innovation and progress.
IPR is need to provide money for innovation and progress.

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

well pirating is not giving money to bollywood industry…while allowing legal imports would be giving money to “enemy” india…:wink:

i don’t think apkistani gvt would do that…not for religious reasons…but for political and economic ones:wink:

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

Protecting Freedom of Speech is good for Pakistani progress and innovations.

Intellectual property rights and their protection may send some money to Bollywood. However the biggest benefit will come to Pakistan and Pakistani people.

Illegal trade of Bollywood products are raking in $millions. But all goes to underground pirate mafia. That clearly undermines the writ of the Pak government in the economic sphere.

Would you burn your house down just to see Bharat burning? Would you cheat your neighbor while losing double the money in the process.

Giving royalty to Bollywood will help Pakistan too.

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Freedom of speech is just a political jargon in Pakistan, and has nothing to do with progress and innovation, these terms are mere classiest terms used by the elitists to grab more power and wealth by deprivation and exploitation of ordinary common Pakistanis citizens.

Why is the hue and cry for innovation, progress and freedom of speech only related to foreign commercial media?.... because the media "Mafia" wants to make a quick buck, that’s the modus oper-andi in Pakistan. Was there any consensus, any public input, citizen participation, public forums, town meetings, surveys, no, the elitist establishment in Pakistan doesn’t believe in all these democratic means of citizen inputs, the opinion of the citizenry doesn’t count. In simple words their opinion is not needed because they don’t know what is right and what is wrong, and it’s the elitist establishment which knows what is right for the Jahil awam.

So that your FoS right there.

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

It would be better if there is no ban on both sides. You dont have to watch bollywood, many indians dont as well but just not watching bollywood movies because it is 'indian' does not make sense. Right now atif aslam is really popular in india and he is my one of my fav. singers currently. I dont see him as a pakistani singer. His songs are awesome and that's all that matters.

I think if bollywood movies are allowed, pakistani people who own/operate multiplexes would clearly be winners since they will get more revenue. It would create new jobs in pakistan too. they will be paying taxes to the govt.

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

So true!

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

you want bollywood movies to be protected so that the government can collect taxes on the profit of their sales? this is the antithesis of capitalism.

sellers of pirated movies are from the working lower class. whatever money they earn, they should keep, not give away in taxes. do you want to add to the beggars on the street by taking away their livelihood? instead of making their lives miserable, how about you take away some of the luxuries of retired generals sitting in lahore playing tennis in afternoon, sipping pina coladas, and running the country like some sort of mafia.

pirated films have put bollywood movies into millions of homes and have done alot to grow the market and spread the name of bollywood far beyond the borders of india.

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

hollywood and bollywood;) are protected in india. even then piracy is rampent and working lower class are still making money out of it;). Piracy or no piracy, every movie comes to theaters. and the producers makes money out of it ,the government also makes money out of it, the theater and multiplex owners make money out of it and the people working in theaters also get jobs. Even the sellers of pirated movies are making money:wink:.

Besides how piracy is ‘for’ capitalism?..i am listening this logic for the first time. If there is no piracy, in the long run everybody will be benifited.

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

How so?

How?

Explain how?

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

Pirate mafia is destroying businesses within Pakistan as well. While Mullahtic mafia is hitting at the core of innovation. Piracy and suppression of FoS are the twin diseases that have kept Pakistan down at the level of Africans and Arabs.

It is time to protect Pakistani (and international) businesses in Pakistan.

I mean people who claim to be the followers of Muhammad pbuh are committing three major sins every day.

  1. Telling lies that the product is genuine (while our Messenger pbuh was Sadiq- truthful).

  2. Robbing artists, book publishers, software developers etc. by selling a stolen or pirated products while our Messenger pbuh was Amin- caretaker and trustworthy).

  3. Attacking foreigners and local minorities (while our Messenger pbuh was always tolerant).

The three issues listed here are part of Haqooq-ul-Ibad (our duty to protect the rights of the Pakistani nation that you must observe). Our Messenger pbuh practiced these three rules even before the advent of Islam. So essentially these three rules are pre-requisites of Islamic religion.

While our Mullahtics never stop talking about Haqooq-Allah (our duties to Allah).

You may be forgiven for the sins against Haqoo-Allah (I do not recommend it).

But you will never be forgiven for the crimes against Haqooq-ul-Ibad.

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I agree. One has to follow general ethical and business honesty regardless who one deals with.

But the issue in your earlier post was Bollywood and sending money there helping Pakistan.

Illegal activities and common even in India and bad businessmen are all over the place.

So where do mullahtics come here?

If you ask Mullah he will hit at the root of the problem in this matter.
He will say spend time in better activities such as huqooq-ul-Ibad and Huqooqullah.

Help someone read a book to sick person in a hospital or get a neighbor grocery if old or disable rather than watching Bolly/Lollly/Holly products!

Our priorities are upside down I guess.

*Since when watching or listening and promoting to Bolly/Lolly/Holly media is Huqooq-ul-Ibad? (as per Prophet PBUH) *

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

Your #1 contradicts #2. You support following modern business rules first, and then in #2, you switch (qalabazi) and hammer bollywood.

So either you are with as, or ...............

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

It does not contradict if you got the idea from my post. Let me explain.

There no such thing as modern business rules since you mentioned even the Prophet PBUH followed and advised the same rules. Unless your modern world is over 1400 years old.

General business rule applies in all businesses and theft or piracy is not good by any sense.....I did agree.

All I mentioned that if you really want to bring mullah in the discussion due to your long lasting habit then mullah will tell you doing any business which involves bolly or any similar trade which is not islamic is also prohibited.

So there will never be a problem of cheating/piracy if one refrains from these kind of businesses at all. Again you brought mullah and I told you what really a mullah would say, thats all.

Now think it over this point:
Would you consider a muslim real muslim and the one who abides by YOUR INTERPRETATION of islamic value of honesty and huqooq-ul-ibaad if this muslim pays full amount to a prostitute after being done with her???:)

Well, I know what a mullah might say.........he will say don't do Zina!
Hope you did get the point.

BTW: If a tree falls its mullah, if rain comes its mullah, if it does not rain its due to mullah and if someone loses money its because of mullahtics, .............mullah gets a lot of credit in your posts......

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

You can have arguments for the sake of arguments.

Piracy and cheating related to IPR (the title of this thread) covers every form of creativity including music, arts, literature, software etc.

You must protect all of these forms of intellectual property as the selective application of copy rights won't work. Kapeesh!

Re: No Ban on Bollywood films: Pakistan must protect FoS and IPR

There is nothing in my posts above which condones piracy or cheating.
I only wanted to bring you back from mullah bashing habit and good that your posts gradually becoming 'cleaner' in this thread.