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^I think signing nikkah paper is just for verification purposes incase later on one of the parties refuse to acknowledge the marriage.
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^ agree...
havent had my Nikkah yet so really can't tell how it is... lol, nevr ever gave thots to Nikkah i mean. i always thought all the baray will b doing everything so i need not to worry and they'll tell me what to do ...
All i'm thinking about is clothes, jewel, decor n stuff... hehe.i guess like every other Bride-to-be...
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My nikkah was at the mosque and it was all in English and Arabic. It was all outloud in front of the iman. It was a day before the mendhi and reception and before all the "hallah gullah" began.
I wore white churidaar and and my husband wore white shalwar kameez as well. It was such a great ceromony. Brings me to tears everytime I think about it. :(
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bottom line is u got to say yes to marrying the ponker u feel in love with and promise not to do one with his money! lol! :P
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There was a religious program on ARY and something similar Hadith was said as N-Y-R said. I think Paki girls should feel lucky because their ceremony (religion part) is so short that it starts and within 5-10 minutes maulvi ask bride and groom permission, get the sign and make dua and that's it compare to the other religions like Sikh, Hindu, Christians, Chinese, Philippines, who take much longer time to complete the marriage (religious part) and have to sit for hours. In some religions girl have to do several long prayers few days before the actual ceremony day and in some cases newly wed couple even have to do some more prayers when bride and groom go into the room. All I know that the girl and the boy must be clean by doing the Islamic shower (showering to make herself/himself Paak) before the ceremony. Now don’t slap me by saying baywaqoof everyone knows this responsibility and how could this happen or how could someone be that much senseless…. All I say…..You don’t want know the stories!!!!!!!!!!!
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^But if the girl is having that time of the month during Nikkah time, how can she make herself paak? I don't think she can until her periods are over because ghusl will not be valid IMO. Desi school of thought says Nikkah is not valid either but I have never seen any Islamic belief backing that up.
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^ No, such restrictions are just culture, its not from Islam
The whole reciting the 3 Quls, this is just culture too, not from Islam. Have never seen anyone except desis do that. Islamically the nikah is very simple, just the ijaab and qabool. Usually there is a short khutbah first, like a small talk about marriage in Islam, some advice for the newlyweds etc. Then the offering of marriage and the acceptance. The bride can do it for herself or her wali can on her behalf. And then afterwards usually those gathered will pray together for the blessing of the marriage
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shy, in this case Nikah is perfectly fine and valid, I have the source link of Fatwa for this very touchy topic in my bookmarks library that I am adding below. As midnight said there is nothing other than ijaab and qabool, rest is what custom we have and what area of the world we live in. Maulvi recite Qalima to bride and groom just so they are on emaan, as our aalims say wird of qalima is good thing because who knows our what act takes us away from islam and the God, so Maulvi ask bride and groom to recite some surah’s to get good deeds and to be closer to the God.
This is not the only reason that require ghusal, there are several other reasons for that you have to take ghusal.
Now even though the Nikah is perfectly fine in this case but what can-cant you do after the Nikah during this period…rather I explain it that might ofend some and some may not agree (my openion may be very wilde) just read the last paragraphy and the correction note of the link page that explains level of the intimacy.
Contracting Marriage During the Woman’s Period - IslamonLine.net - Ask The Scholar
I may be totally wrong in my explaining because I am a good technologist but very Nalaiq student of the religion, so if any word ofend anyone please disregard whatever I typed and consult with Aalim or Mufti of your choice.
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^No my question has nothing to do with post-nikkah situations or intimacy. I am asking about the ghusl which you said is required before Nikkah to purify oneself. As far as I know, your ghusl is not valid if you're on your periods so how can ghusl be required before Nikkah then? You said that it's mandatory for couple to take bath and 'paak' themselves with ghusl before marriage.. but I have never heard of that before.
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It is clear now that if nikah is happening during periods and it is perfectly fine and valid then Ghusl is out of the picture. Ghusl is mentioned in my first post because girl and boy will recite some quranic ayat and it is recommended for the people to be Paak and with wudu when touching and reciting quran, Also I heard from molvis to have gusl before the nikah so I quoted you that, (I guess exception apply in the case of periods). I have also heard from the qualified Aalim asking during the ceremony if the girl is in this situation so he could take the next steps of Nikah according to that. I think he did the right thing I am not sure what he did after but I am guessing may be he explained to the boy and to the girl, the rights and the responsibilities during this situation.
If you search the google, you will find some links to this say you don’t need gusl and some say you can do gusl if you are not in that situation. So I guess you should ask the nearest Imam where you live, he may be able to give you much better answer.
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^Hmm, okay because I haven't heard of it. I wasn't asked to recite anything but I did have wudu though because I had to pray namaz. It will be a good idea to find out so we can tell those getting married because I am sure alot of poeple don't know about it.
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I will ask my Imam, he is well qualified and before giving any answer he search thoroughly and yes you are right this thing should be shared with others too because it is deep hidden and no one talks about it. I will check with Maolana when I get time.
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Ghusl is mentioned in my first post because girl and boy will recite some quranic ayat
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But it is not required for them to recite anything from the Quran. The marriage is perfectly valid without them reciting anything, and if the Imam asks them to recite the kalima or a surah or something, it is just his own way of doing it, probably what he learned back home. You can read about what the Prophet pbuh's way of conducting marriages was, very short and simple. Ghusl isnt required for the Nikah to take place
Quite frankly, I don't know if you are a girl or a guy, neither do I care, but that's the stupid-est thing I have ever heard in my life.
If a girl makes 'some sort of a sign or stays quiet' does not mean she accepts. She also has to say kabool hai 3 times, atleast loudly so the witnesses and the molvi hear her... I don't know what kind of a religion you practice, cuz a girl remaining quiet during her nikkah isn't referred to as a 'yes' in Islam. And you don't need to be an expert on Islam to know that... sorry to say it so bluntly.
have you ever heard of the words from Islamic Shariah.. ''Ass Sukooto bi manzilatil Qubool'' .. i guess no unles you have a deep understanding of theislamic Law .. i dunt blame ya ..
well sister .. in islam ...the aove pharase has been used and is ONLY for this issue .. in the islamc shariah .. when a gurl is asked for her permission at her nikah .... if she stays quiet .. WITHOUT her being upset or anything ..and gives a gesture like a smile or something ..it is taken as a 'yes'...
rabia3983 : justto clarify with you .. no she dunt have to say anything ...
ps. these days everything is on paper ... so when the gurl signs ..that also is an approval ..unless theres a molwi/rishtadar standing over her head ..with a Danda ..telliing her to sign ..BUT rather she does it on her own accord and from her own will ..and therefore ... if she is quiet and then signs ... then its approval .. however if she stays quiet and dunt sign ..clearly its a NO .
:)