nice MuslimsSs?

AsslamoAleikum
warahamat’ullah wabarakatoho
eh..hiiiii to strangers and adaab to others :slight_smile:
well I was wondering if someone could give me some info about women in Islam,
ehhhhh I know it’s a very wide’n spread topic but I really neeed it..
I am in Norway and writing an essay about womens rights and hijaab\marriage..etc…and I want to tell ppl that we aren’t door-mats..eh so faar it’s been abit confusing lekin I would appreciate all the help I get…just think of the ajjar you’ll get!!! heyyyyy plz allah ki zaat per mere lye kouch time nikaldijye!!!
if you feel like being an acha insaan then
email the info to me…my addr;
[email protected]
thanx for bothering…
Heyyyyy Tariq it’s great…I think I’m done with the meeting ppl wala forum…anyways keeeep smiling…me goes hadios..
fe-imanullah
Arooj :wink:

Arooj,

Please read the book "Women in Islam" by Fatima Marnessi, who is a Professor in University of Morocco. An excellent book on the subject matter. Though I do not agree with some of the points she raised about our Prophet, otherwise it is a perfect book to represent correctly the women in Islam, their rights and responsibilities. you will definitely enjoy by reading it and get more than enough knowledge for your essay.

Sincerely,
Farid

Assalam O Alaikum

May be this will help u :

Woman in Islam, well she is a mother, a sister, a wife and a daughter. Yeh rishtay kitnay pak hain, hum sab jantay hain. (excuse me, but i can explain better in urdu) Islam main aurat ko jo muqam dia woh itna buland, pak aur azem hay key maghrabee mumalik is ka tasawwar bhi nahin karsaktay. Haan jo log women rights ki baat kertay hain woh bhi is baat say ittifaq nahin karaingaay.

Islam main aurat ka bila jawaz bahar nikalna mana hay, agar zaroorat paray to woh ghar say nikal saktee hay jiss key liay hijab zaroori haay (aap ko hijaab ka to pata hoga). Mardoon key sath sath kaam karna, hansna, gupshup lagana, yeh sab haram hay. Eik hadith main hazoor sallalaho alaihay wassallam ney bataya key jo aurtain mardoon key darmian main say khushbo laga kar guzartee hain un per jannat ki hawa haram hay.

Azadi kis ko pasand nahin hotee, lakin islam woh deen hay jiss key asool duniya bananay walay ney banaay hain.

Kia aap yeh samaghtay hain key aurat ki azadi say woh taraqee karay gee, no way,
kia zina key waqiat un ilaqoon main ziada hotay hain jahan aurtain azad khula ghoomtee hain ya wahan hotay hain jahan aurtain hijab main hotee hain, is ka jawab ap khud dain. Main qatar main rehta hoon, aur yahan mashallah aurtain agarcha 100% sahih nahin hain magar phir bhi yahan kafee had tak hijab hota hay, aur yehee wajah hay key yahan zinna key bohot he kaam cases hotay hain.

Musalman bhi aj kal wohe kar rahay hain, jo christians aur jews ney kia, changing there religion, jaisay sharab peenay wala bolay ga key Quran main kaheen bhi sharab haram nahin hay, to main to pionga, lakin ahadith say pata chalta hay key sharab haram hay. Isi tarah Aurat ko woh karna chahiaay jo islam main hay, Aurat ka kaam apnay maan baap ki khidmat aur jab shadee ho jaay to khawand aur bachoon say khuloos, aur bachoon ki parwarish.

Aurtoon ki taleem bila shuba jaaiz bulkey zaroori hay.

Ummeed hay is say aap ko Islam main aurat ka maqam samaghney main madad zarrorr milay gee, albatta mujhay yaqeem hay aap yeh sam apni research report main nahin likh sakaingee.

Agar america walay WOMAN RIGHTS muslim aurtoon ko chahiaay to unhain chahiaay apna mazhab change karlain phir chahain jahan marzee jaeen, jo marzee chahay pehnain.

Islam main jo women rights hain woh Ajkal key women rights say bilkul juda hain.

Agar aap is silsilay main kuch aur mallomat hasil kerna chahtee hain to mujhay [email protected] per email karain.

jazakumullah khair

Assalam O Alaikum.

Niaz Bhai, Assalamualaikum,
Mera mutlub aap sey behes karna har giz nahin, bulkey aap ney jo kuch uuper likha hay, uss say mujhe taqreeban mukammal tor par ittefaq hai.
Mera sawal wahan uthta hai jahan aap ney kaha hay key aurton ka kam karna haram hay. Yeh aap ney kiss pay base kia hay?
Jahan tak kay mujhe yad parta hai, Hazrat Khadija (Rehmatullahi Alaiha) ka apna karobar tha.
May yeh iss liye pooch rahin hoon key "job" mairy majboori hay. May apnai waldain say Master's kay liye paisay nahin mang sakti kyonke mera aik chota bhai hai jis ki ibtidai taaleem bhi nahin mukammal hui. Main aik buhat "muhazzab" office may kam karti hoon jis may ziada tar larkian hain, laikin aik adha larka bhee hai. Hum sub aik doosray ko ikhlaq aur adab kay sath miltay hain. Obviously, may mutahajjiba libas pehenti hoon aur kabhi public may perfume nahin lagati. Agar aurtain in usoolon ki tabiadari kartay huay upni taaleem mukammil karain to iss may koi harj hay?
Umeed hay aap iss mozoo kay baray may soch kay jawab dain gay.
Assalamualaikum.

Assalam O Alaikum !!

Behan Yasmeen !!! Mashallah aap to kafee alim lagtee hain, aray mainey yeh thoree kaha key bilkul haram hay kaam karna, meray kehnay ka matlab yeh hay key bina uzar key kaam nahin karna chahiyaay.

Jaisay key aap jantee hongee majboori main to haram bhi halal ho jata hay, Allah SWT apnay bandoon per bohot ziada meharban hay. Mashallah jaisay aap ney bataya key aap hijab kertee hain aur majboori key tehat kaam kartee hain, to jahan tak mera khial hay to is main inshallah koi harj nahin, baqee Wallah o Alam.

Jahan tak taleem ka sawal hay, taleem to baishak bohot zaroori hay, mard aur aurat dono key liay, larkion ko bilashuba taleem hasil kernee chahiaay. Lakin unhain chahiaay key woh parday ka khial rakhain. Well, mera khial hay mard aur khawateen dono key alag alag taleemi idaray honay chahiaay. Is tarah jo log is wajah say apni beteon ko university ya college nahin bhaijtay key wahan larkay bhi partay hain, woh bhi bhaijaingaay.

Aur main mazrat chahta hoon key mainey aap ko dair say jawab dia, asal main mainey yeh topic aj he daikha hay.

Acha Allah Hafiz / Assalam O Alaikum

Wa Alaikum Assalam,
Mazrat ki zuroorat nahi, Niaz Bhai. I assumed you were engrossed in deep thought over the issue I raised.

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hi again…asslamoAleikum :slight_smile:
uffffffff I just wrote this loooooong posting and grrrrrrrr I 4got the password

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ufffffff uffffff uffffff…anyways thats life!
okei…HmmmMmm
I came home from Uk last night
(went on a biology reaserch thing) and wiolaaaaa----wooooooowwwwww ppl have really made an effort responding to my post…hey thanx logo :slight_smile:
Farid..eh well couldn’t find the book, grrr guess it’s out of reach or something

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Niaz bhayya I really appreciat the things you told me…and belive me I’m gonna add the things you told me (few)
lekin fill haaaal I’m focusing on the things which sound +tive for the werstern world naaa…as in:
*The bible says “the birth of a doughter is a loss”. The Qur’an says both are an equal blessing (Ash-Shura 42:49)

 *The bible forbids women from speaking in church (Corinthians 14:34-35)

The Qur’an says women can argue with the prophet (SAW) (Al-Mujadilah 58:1)

  *The Bible convicts women as the original sinners,

(i,e Eve picking from the forbidden tree-------->Genesis 2:4-3:24) The Qur’an clarifies it was Adam not Eve
(Al-A’raf 7:19-35)
and much moooooooore…!!!
Hey Niaz jii I’m not out for for equal rights, couse I know we don’t have any…
oOOOOpps yeh mene kya kehdala?
wellll actually
WOMEN ARE EQUAL TO MEN IN SIGHT OF GOD BUT THEY HAVE IN SOME RESPECT DIFFERENT ROLES IN LIFE TO MEN BECOUSE OF THEIR DIFFERENT NATURES!!!
wese I think I got your point Niaz bhayya..
Hey Yasmeen baji…heyyyy you are just grea8, yr right…you can work :slight_smile:
good luck :wink:
oh my God..the jannat ki khushbo haraam wali baat scared me

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grrrrrr I have to stop showering in perfure,ufffffffff!
wese guys you cant evan emagine how much I have learned doing this project…ammi is happy couse she thinks I’m getting some aqal…soooo guys thanx allllooooooot…I feel sooooo loaded now,
oh well got to go…
jzaakallah khai
ArOOj :wink:

Assalam O Alaikum

hehehe, aray behna mujhay khushi hay baat puri nahin to kam az kam thori sahih aap key pallay agaee.

Jazakumullah Khair / Assalam O Alaikum.

Arooj,
You said :
" WOMEN ARE EQUAL TO MEN IN SIGHT OF GOD BUT THEY HAVE IN SOME RESPECT DIFFERENT ROLES IN LIFE TO MEN BECOUSE OF THEIR DIFFERENT NATURES! "

This is not true. In the Quran it is clearly wrttten that Men are a degree higher than women.

Women are only half witness in the court of law.

Women only get half inheritence as compared to men.

Women as qouted by the Hadith are deficeint in intelligence, and relegion.

So in Islam women are not equal to men. Ofcourse Islam gave some rights to women but I dont think it is correct to say that it gave them equality with men.

       SuperMan.

ohhhhh Superman....YOU backkkkk????
HmmMmm well I don't agree with you..
sorry lekin I just don't....
Hey I know about the laws you have reffered to...well Ido know about women being half witness and about their less inheritence....and I know the reason as well :)
lekin sonnye jii..I said that they are seen equally upon in the sight of GOD..lekin in life they are given different roles...isn't it up to us wheather we say that we have less value or just accept the fact that we're different?
Hey don't be high couse of the big inheritence men ge...don't tell me that you're that naive and don't get that men have to pay all the expances with it while womens have the fullu right to spend the inheritence on whatever they feel like spending on.....without any husbans interference....
well to be honest I don't really have ennough knowledge that I should go on about it......lekin I do know things na...
and I still belive in what I said about the equal right thingy...!
I have read it many times in different books....lekin it's always ok to get to know others point of view na...

Niaz bhayya where are youuuuuuuuu?
you keep smiling okeiiiii? :)

UmmMm I better go now.-see yaaaaaaaa bye....

Assalam alaikum

Superman

If you want to use Qur'aan and Hadith to make your point then please use clear proofs.

Do you think equality for men and women exists in democratic countries? If you do, then please explain in what way.

Arooj

You are right in what your saying but the part about Hadhrat Adam (A.S.) was a bit dodgy. It was Hadhrat Adam (A.S.) who picked the apple but both were accountable.

During the Christian Era the christian priests used to have discussions about whether a woman had a soul or not.

It also says in the bible 'Its better to wed women than to burn them'.

In England there were men who used accuse women of being witches. This was proved or disproved by throwing the woman into a deep lake. If she didn't drown then she was a witch and was tied up and burnt to death but if she drowned then she wasn't!!!!

These same people are trying to teach us women's rights!!!

Islam started feminism. The Arabs used to burn their daughters alive before Islam came to them.

Feminism in the west is actually discrimination against men and actually worsens the relationship between men and women.

Islam improves the relationship between men and women.

Brother Niaz and Sister Yasmeen also speak the truth.

Assalam alaikum