Re: Next Gen Taliban
May Allah give them strength, Ameen.
Ya But unfortunately for you, your buddies the Taliban Nazis have banned the Internet, so I guess you won't be able to post any of your ridiculous posts any more
Re: Next Gen Taliban
May Allah give them strength, Ameen.
Ya But unfortunately for you, your buddies the Taliban Nazis have banned the Internet, so I guess you won't be able to post any of your ridiculous posts any more
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Sure, you can add anything else you want to that, its your call.
Assalamalikum.
by the way cresent,
what are you doing in the infidel country like Canada?
why aren't with your fellow Taliban Nazis fighting the Apostate Pakistan Army lead by the Jewish Pakistani Generals with their masters in Tel Aviv?
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You can post whatever, please dont think it will change my view. But I urge you to open your eyes, and see the real enemy amongst us. And those who are suffering at the hands of the REAL extremists. And dont blame them for fighting back, for they have no other choice.
Bhai saheb....nobody stops them from following a certain way of life....even Maulana Ghazi of Lal Masjid fame was living a life of his choice secluded in a madrassah preaching what he believed 24/7....nobody stopped him....nobody will stop you....I can assure in an Islamic country like Pakistan nobody ever has stopped anyone from practising your Islam the way you like....the problem starts when these taliban type want to impose what they believe on others....they want others to dress like them....grow beards....start living an imposed brand of Islam....and this is totally unacceptable....
.....and come out of these enemy theories....and accept people who are different compared to you...and if you want to preach use some decent means....instead of arms...
You are advocating Taliban....what justification you can give for them on their imposition of religion on others through compulsion...and force...it's a shame you are justifying them fighting/killing against the state....and people from their own country....who do not subscribe to their ideas....and proudly you are stating nothing will ever change your ideas....what kind of a criminal are you disguised as a religious man....
Re: Next Gen Taliban
by the way cresent,
what are you doing in the infidel country like Canada?
why aren't with your fellow Taliban Nazis fighting the Apostate Pakistan Army lead by the Jewish Pakistani Generals with their masters in Tel Aviv?
Yes indeed.
Re: Next Gen Taliban
Martial laws are dictatorship where the ruler will do ANYTHING to defend his rule, he won't really be sincere with the country. Martial law will only make things worse.
No, I don't think this is the biggest danger. Biggest danger is a dictator will implement a rule that he may deem fit, regardless of what the majority believes in. Talibanism is also an extreme form of dictatorship.
Re: Next Gen Taliban
No, I don't think this is the biggest danger. Biggest danger is a dictator will implement a rule that he may deem fit, regardless of what the majority believes in. Talibanism is also an extreme form of dictatorship.
Since when do you meet dictatorship with more dictatorship!?!? Its like trying to put out the fire with more fire...
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.. And the plant was nurtured in the democratic govts of Benazir and Nawaz Sharif!
Seriously Uncle 1, I don't think you are that naive. It is a failure of our policy that we didn't keep a lid on these people whose job was to go fight the russians. And I am critical of Zia but if he hadn't done the gorilla warfare in afghanistan, then the war would've eventually been fought in Pakistan when so-called Pathan and baloki / balooney leaders would have INVITED the Soviets to intervene in Pakistan.
This "invitation to intervene" is after all how the Soviets came in Afghanistan if it jogs your memory? :)
Why you people blame on civilian governments such as BB's NS's. Army rules everywhere. No civilian president or prime minister has ever been given full authority to rule the country. Every civilian government is given a hidden agenda by the army to follow.
as for as Mush is concerned, i think he must go now. i believe in democracy, the worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship, remember.
Zia fought America's war in Afghanistan and now Mush is doing the same. Zia created the Jihadis so he could win the war in Afghanistan, and now Mush is killing Jihadis to save the American cause. No one is sincere here. Mush says "Sab se pehle Pakistan" but the reality is "Sab se pehle Pakistan, par us se pehle main" is his motto.
Allah destroy Mush Bush and their followers. Ameen
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Taleban in Islamabad.
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Venturing into the Taleban’s backyard
By Syed Shoaib Hasan
BBC News, South Waziristan
Taleban positions are well defended with no shortage of fire power
**Sitting inside a cramped shop in the town of Jandola in Pakistan’s restive tribal area of South Waziristan, we are hoping to be taken to meet the man who is arguably Pakistan’s most feared militant. **
Baitullah Mehsud has been accused of organising some of the most devastating suicide attacks in the country.
His exploits have included the capture of over 200 Pakistan soldiers on 30 August.
The shop is full of customers, many of whom carry AK-47 rifles.
Dangerous game
The shoppers are pro-Taleban militants, or simply Taleban. The reality here is that the terms are inter-changeable.
Jandola marks the beginning of their territory which extends right up to the Afghan border.
On our way to the town, we crossed several check posts and a large army convoy heading the other way. We were stopped and searched by troops once.
The militants drive in cars captured from the army
**The soldiers appear to be from Pakistan’s extreme northern area, near Gilgit. They are not native to the area, and are mostly Shia Muslims. **
**Shias are despised by the predominantly Sunni Muslim Taleban. **
When our contacts finally arrive, the change in the atmosphere is electric as their leader walked in.
Mahmood is a cheerful and cherubic young man in his mid-twenties, and greets us in the traditional tribal manner - hand on chest and a slap on the hands.
He is accompanied by four other men - all in their early twenties.
After the greetings Mahmood - the smiling Taleban - motions us to follow.
Everywhere the army’s positions have been abandoned
Outside we board a pick-up truck for our onward journey.
Mahmood takes the wheel, his AK-47 at his shoulder. My colleague joins him in the front passenger seat.
I am joined in the rear by a young militant called Faisal.
The rest settle in the back, where one of them mans a mounted machine gun.
As we fly along the dusty and pot-holed road, I notice that it is a harsh, arid terrain, with craggy and forbidding mountains lining the horizon.
“A fedayeen attacked a convoy here two days ago,” says Faisal as we round a hillside.
Fedayeen - literally those who sacrifice themselves - is the Taleban honorific for a suicide bomber.
Faisal goes on to claim there were several deaths, although the army only admitted three soldiers were injured.
A few minutes later we enter a valley with narrow gorges.
Faisal says the area is called Tangh and has historical importance.
Abandoned check posts
Before partition, he says, Mehsud tribesmen ambushed a 200-vehicle British convoy here.
He says that not a single man escaped as the British forces were cut down.
The Taleban take advantage of solar energy
The past seems to hold few lessons for the present, Faisal argues, because another invading army - this time in the form of the Pakistani military - is also trying to blunder its way through. But in this territory, there is almost a complete absence of Pakistani soldiers: there are only abandoned check posts and fortifications.
“They haven’t come back since we captured the convoy,” my guide explains.
"Even the British never came to stay - they knew well enough.
“We will not tolerate the presence of any armed men other than our own in our territory.”
It takes us another couple of hours before we reach our destination.
During this time we pass through several small villages.
The reaction of the people is startling - the children smile and wave, while the adults look on with respect and pride. It appears that local support for the militants is almost universal.
Faisal explains to me why he and his counterparts are increasingly targeting the army.
The army is almost completely absent from the area
“We are forced to do this because of the government’s policies for America’s benefit,” he says.
He and Mahmood are convinced that if opposition leader Benazir Bhutto returns to Pakistan in a power-sharing deal with President Musharraf, this pro-Americanism will get stronger.
"She is actually a Shia, so what else can we expect," he says.
This anti-Shia resentment is palpable.
In early August, Baitullah Mehsud’s militants slaughtered a captured Shia soldier by cutting off his head.
Minutes later we are at our destination.
We see two huge walled compounds, encompassing the homesteads typical of the area, located in a small valley. A group of children rush out to greet us, followed by several armed Taleban. Inside, we are told our host - Zulfiqar Mehsud, Baitullah’s spokesman and deputy - will take a few hours to join us.
We do not know the cause of the delay, but can be certain that it is not because of the manoeuvres of the Pakistan army, because this is an area in which the militants are in complete control. What we didn’t know at this stage was that Baitullah Mehsud was not here, but away fighting in Afghanistan. In his next report, Syed Shoaib Hasan talks to Zulfiqar Mehsud and some of the captured Pakistani soldiers.
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Yeah the next gen Taliban. Nice term!
Suicide bombings won't work and ultimately this menace will go away. *It may take a long time. Just see the example of Sri Lanka. * In Sri Lanka, Hindu Taliban aka suicide bombers have successfully waged a long and ugly war against the Sinhala government.
In case of Pakistan, we must move away from being a timid respondent to the Talibanic aggression.
Just like NATO, Pakistan should acquire and then use B-52s. Pak forces should be allowed to enter Afghanistan to encircle and then crush this disease.
Right now the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is a joke. It restrains our hands, and forces us to fight on our back foot.
Once Pak army is allowed to enter Afghanistan, you will see that Jihadi rats will surrender very quickly.
This is not disease *****************************$@#$@#$#$
this is what u gave em few years ago
u called them mujahideen
u suppoerted em
u trained em
u gave em weapons
u said that they are fighting the war of islam
and now u have satrted killing them
cause america say so
wtf
what dont u educate em
why dont u give em the chance
were there any sue cide bombings
before
u killed their leaders
u bomb their villages
u killed their families
destroyed homes
made their life hell
what do u expect now, they cant even take revenge!
yes they are taking revenge and they hv every right to do it, no matter how
wouldnt u do the same if that were u (uneducated, no food, no future, no leader, no family, no home etc)
why are they attackin pakistan? well pakistan is the front allie in this war against muslims . . . ..
Re: Next Gen Taliban
Mostar…indeed a very comprehensive article…thanks for sharing…