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U r rite, a swift operation against all kind of extermists.
May Musharraf be replaced very soon by some one, who has more sense in understanding that all kind of extremism is harmfull to us and our country. Ameen.
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strength to kill more innocents? or strength to take the last bite out of the mouth of the poor, please be specific.
Strength to take out the invading forces who ARE doing what you mentioned.
And the ability for us muslims to look aside from the media, and open our minds to the objectivity that lays in front of us, veiled by the deception of the media.
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Ok captian ji, the other option is to to bring in US, NATO, maybe Indian army to do the job correctly. Are you read for that and it’s consequences?
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Strength to take out the invading forces who ARE doing what you mentioned. And the ability for us muslims to look aside from the media, and open our minds to the objectivity that lays in front of us, veiled by the deception of the media.
Taliban invaded the tribal areas. They grew out of madrassahs.
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Strength to take out the invading forces who ARE doing what you mentioned. And the ability for us muslims to look aside from the media, and open our minds to the objectivity that lays in front of us, veiled by the deception of the media.
No one considers terrrorists innocent... And rest assured, Allah will never forgive these terrorists.
You need to open you mind brother, your close minded approach to the world is going to end up getting you a place with your hero's in hell.
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Sir jee, MQM is a terrorist organization.** There would be international backing too, the very day when Barbar took over to clean the mess there was no condemnation by foreign powers.** Remember. Balochistan can be addressed at any other moment. Right now we need stability by eradication of Taliban + other radical groupings and MQM terrorists at same times.
So MQM has international backers or not?
MQM is containable inside karachi while these fasadis are not. That is the main problem!
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May Musharraf be replaced very soon by some one, who has more sense in understanding that all kind of extremism is harmfull to us and our country. Ameen.
How musharraf getting replaced change anything if there are still sympathizers to fasadi salafi cause in the security forces?
Weren't you cheering that a professional kiyani has taken charge of the army? What can be asked more????
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Ok captian ji, the other option is to to bring in US, NATO, maybe Indian army to do the job correctly. Are you read for that and it's consequences?
You are forgetting that the seeds of modern day "jihadism" were sowed in another dictatorship. Martial laws are dictatorship where the ruler will do ANYTHING to defend his rule, he won't really be sincere with the country. Martial law will only make things worse. The options are many but it will take honesty and sincerity on grande scale in army and national assembly. Things start improving with increasing accountability.
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Taliban invaded the tribal areas. They grew out of madrassahs.
and madrassahs are still growing in number and sizes in the country (atleast in Karachi)... all the while Musharraf claimed fight against jihadism. So either there is no fight against jihadism or jihadism doesn't have anything to with madrassahs.
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.. And the plant was nurtured in the democratic govts of Benazir and Nawaz Sharif!
Seriously Uncle 1, I don't think you are that naive. It is a failure of our policy that we didn't keep a lid on these people whose job was to go fight the russians. And I am critical of Zia but if he hadn't done the gorilla warfare in afghanistan, then the war would've eventually been fought in Pakistan when so-called Pathan and baloki / balooney leaders would have INVITED the Soviets to intervene in Pakistan.
This "invitation to intervene" is after all how the Soviets came in Afghanistan if it jogs your memory? :)
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Strength to take out the invading forces who ARE doing what you mentioned. And the ability for us muslims to look aside from the media, and open our minds to the objectivity that lays in front of us, veiled by the deception of the media.
so far they are killing and getting while killing Muslim brother we saw that in Wazirstan, Swat and other places of Pakistan..
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Seriously aunty11 it was naive to doctrine the whole nation to become fodder for the war through schooling, creating institutions to generate people who would fight the war... the guy who claims to be fighting jihadism isn't really addressing the root (if it is really the root as claimed globally).
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I have trouble digesting that a friggin masters parha hua from Peshawar University in Islamic theology is acting like a buffoon. I'm sorry, what kind of Islamic theology did he learn??? Is there some version that teaches you to talk around armed like a friggin' retard, and exactly what Islam teaches you to fight against an already muslim country???
These people need to be rounded up, stripped in public, and have their bare behinds whipped for the entire world to see.
And castration might not be a bad idea either. Just neuter them.
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Strength to continue doing this?
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=12307
In recent weeks, one group of the militants had even beheaded four men belonging to a particular sect. These men hailing from Shia-populated parts of Kohat district and Orakzai tribal agency were forcibly taken away from passenger vehicles while travelling via Darra Adamkhel.
The situation had become so insecure while driving on the road passing through Darra that the authorities had advised government employees, including those from the forces, not to travel in the afternoon and after sunset. Shias were asked not to use the Darra route at all as the militants used to stop vehicles, particularly those carrying passengers, on the road near the Kohat Tunnel, in broad daylight and search for Shias, army officials and other government employees.
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Oh no, Ajju, don't even bother. crescent would be the first to join their bloody movement if they asked him to - he has no problem with spreading more fitna and problems in the world for his lofty ideas about a khalifa and all that crap.
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Oh no, Ajju, don't even bother. crescent would be the first to join their bloody movement if they asked him to - he has no problem with spreading more fitna and problems in the world for his lofty ideas about a khalifa and all that crap.
You might think they're bloody, but thats not the case. Seeing how khilafat is a necessary agenda, through personal development, or direct reactive force in areas where ncessary, Its appauling how many muslims are away from this ideology.
May Allah Guide you. Ameen.
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*You might think they're bloody, but thats not the case. *.
So how would you think of them?
Seeing how khilafat is a necessary agenda, through personal development, or direct reactive force in areas where ncessary, *Its appauling how many muslims are away from this ideology. *.
Please elaborate on the ideology that you are talking about.
May Allah Guide you. Ameen.
In which direction? Mass killing in the name of islam?
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There is no doubt that idiotic dogmas prevail in pakistan and afghanistan alike. But to defame a movement based on those is as wrong as saying all Hindus are extremists, because of their suicide bombings in Sri Lanka?
But in my open minded view (unlike the closed, i'm assumed by some as) I believe the talibanistic ideology, of unity and social development, under the banner of Islam is today the most authentic, and realistic approach to order in that region, and world at large. The media can portray any group as they want, and we will fall victim to their doctrines and agendas. And if Pakistanis themselves haven't noticed, their country, their leader is being put under the same attention and defamation as were the afghani people and the Taliban alike.
I dont believe in mass killings, honor killings, suicide bombings, or oppression upon women. I dont give in to the propaganda that they feeds us, in order to aid their approach to domination over our lands, over Muslim lands.
Disunification of our lands are not due to the efforts of crazy mullahs in madressas where word of God is spread, but in the offices and conference rooms of MNCs and their lobbyist friends. And to an extent , in the offices of many government institutions, those we are and aren't aware of.
May Allah guide the muslims, and unite us under the banner of his laws, and give us strength to overcome our enemies.
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Crescent, are the Afghani refugees that came out of AFGHANISTAN and tell us of the atrocities commited by the Talib-ul-Jahilliyah also propagandists in your berserk mind?
May Allah protect us from freaks; especially HT freaks.
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There is no doubt that idiotic dogmas prevail in pakistan and afghanistan alike. But to defame a movement based on those is as wrong as saying all Hindus are extremists, because of their suicide bombings in Sri Lanka?
I was not aware of the fact that some Taalibans are peaceful, loving, warm-hearted creatures. Thanks for bringing it to my knowledge. Also, if I am not mistaken, you are implying that suicide bombings unjustifiably defame talibanic movement?
But in my open minded view (unlike the closed, i'm assumed by some as) I believe the talibanistic ideology, of unity and social development, under the banner of Islam is today the most authentic, and realistic approach to order in that region, and world at large. The media can portray any group as they want, and we will fall victim to their doctrines and agendas. And if Pakistanis themselves haven't noticed, their country, their leader is being put under the same attention and defamation as were the afghani people and the Taliban alike.
Are you alluding to the unity and social development in Afghanistan that resulted from implementation of Talibanistic ideology. The orderliness in Afghanistan indeed represents the authenticity of Talibanic approach. Doesn’t it?
I dont believe in mass killings, honor killings, suicide bombings, or oppression upon women*. I dont give in to the propaganda that they feeds us, in order to aid their approach to domination over our lands, over Muslim lands. *
Muslims need to grow out of accusing the world of carrying out a propaganda against them, there is a conspiracy theory about everything. Everyone is after them and everyone want to dominate their land, be it America, India, Israel, other muslim sects, while they fight over whether to keep arms open or folded during prayers and bomb each other's mosques. Maybe there is something to learn from present condition of Muslims all over the world, including Kashmir, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, genocide in Darfur, Pakistan, etc. Maybe there is a common dinominator, i.e. muslims.
Disunification of our lands are not due to the efforts of crazy mullahs in madressas where word of God is spread, but in the offices and conference rooms of MNCs and their lobbyist friends. And to an extent , in the offices of many government institutions, those we are and aren't aware of.
Please tell me which madrissa you go to, so I can get enlightened and get the word of God which only privileged souls seem to acquire.
May Allah guide the muslims, and unite us under the banner of his laws, and give us strength to overcome our enemies.
Enemy who? Whole world you mean?