I wonder why it appears in the urdu press only? oh i get it. the jewish lobby conspiracy.
we are so pathetic that in order to keep thinking that our religion is the best and the most favored one by God, we cook up stories like these. first our mullahs did not believe that the astronauts could land on moon. then somehow when they started believing that, they came up with this story that those astronauts had heard the azaan on the moon. they did not know that sound needed a medium to travel, and there was no medium in between earth and moon that could carry sound.
and now this news. vague references of people that no one has ever heard of. but hey, who cares. after all, Islam is the best religion so everything must be true in this clipping, right?
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Unfortunately our approach is rarely balanced and one which popularises far fetched ideas and fantasies often at the expense of what is real and objective. Example of later will be destruction of archaeological evidence of the revolution of Prophet Mohammad himself is taking place under the banner of 'shirk', a great disservice towards the present and the future of mankind. It is much easier to put together a bunch of subjective guggle-muggle than to face and stand up to the real facts.
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What startles me is that we as an Ummah are not educated enough to distinguish between fake scientific claims and real ones, we don't know how to cross-examine evidence and think critically. We can't discern the difference between a reality that science has helped us understand from pseudo-science ...
We see some strange claims in scientific work pointing to favour Islam and we reject them without investigation, but then we also reject all other science that favours Islam as well even if it has been ratified. We have become so secular that we have forgotten that it was the pursuits that Islam had us make that led to the establishment of science.
In order to find the truth of a matter it is important to analyse it carefully ... The Islamic approach gave birth to this type of thinking ... Yet, today we stand thinking these two are fundamentally different domains of thought ... That is probably because we have been ignoring history.
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What startles me is that we as an Ummah are not educated enough to distinguish between fake scientific claims and real ones, we don't know how to cross-examine evidence and think critically.
Think critically? Religion never lets you think critically. it opens the doors of heavens while closing those of reason. that is how it works. that is how it is supposed to work.
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We see some strange claims in scientific work pointing to favour Islam and we reject them without investigation, but then we also reject all other science that favours Islam as well even if it has been ratified.
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that is my main point. you only cherry pick the science that somehow favors your religious beliefs, while rejecting everything else.
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We have become so secular that we have forgotten that it was the pursuits that Islam had us make that led to the establishment of science.
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not really. it was the greeks before Islam who had started pursuing science. Muslims contributed nada to it all. and the few that did were persecuted in their times, be it Averroes, Avicenna or Abdus Salam. we give them credit now as muslims because time proved that they were right.
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I think ignoring history has made you think that Islam was what made people think. whereas in reality, none of the religions, including Islam, gives you the power to think freely. if they do, then their dogmas are in danger of being challenged. since there are too many stakeholders in the status quo ( mullahs, etc) they will never want the dogmas to fall.
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Peace jaanaan
You see the way you phrased the posts earlier was that religious people use science to prove their religion, but that is not the case with me ... I firmly hold that the truth is The Qur'an and anything that bears towards that truth that we stumble across in our pursuits to understand this world - the domain known as science - I commend them for showing us how we can understand the things that we already believe to be true ...
It is not a matter of using science incorrectly ... It is a matter of showing a connection where a connection can be drawn and it can also serve to be a means to sift through the scientific rights from the scientific wrongs. You think that I believe every scientific connection that is being drawn to tie in with Islam? I don't ... Inductive reasoning - i.e. testing and analysing the behaviour of things around us is an instruction ... We are told look to creation - and how should we look to creation if not scientifically? Yes, when we look at the things around us in a manner which is consistent then we will arrive at the wisdoms the Qur'an alludes to and that is why it alludes to them ... to give us confidence in The Truth is bears.
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If you truly believe that the Qur'an is the Word of God ... then you must be compelled to believe that there cannot be any falsehood in there ... Using certain rules we can decipher which things cannot be literal and which things can.
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Why we need scientific evidence in the first place?
so that they can prove that what was told us 14 centuries ago was from divine. because who else but God would know the secrets of the universe and only he could provide the answers that science is discovering now. Miracles, man, miracles. that is how religions keep their old faithful, and bring in new ones.
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If you truly believe that the Qur'an is the Word of God ... then you must be compelled to believe that there cannot be any falsehood in there ... Using certain rules we can decipher which things cannot be literal and which things can.
I once did. now i am doubtful.
who came up with those rules by the way? did God send them or did the Prophet devise them? or is it the later people?
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If you truly believe that the Qur'an is the Word of God ... then you must be compelled to believe that there cannot be any falsehood in there ... Using certain rules we can decipher which things cannot be literal and which things can.
I once did. now i am doubtful.
who came up with those rules by the way? did God send them or did the Prophet devise them? or is it the later people?
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so that they can prove that what was told us 14 centuries ago was from divine. because who else but God would know the secrets of the universe and only he could provide the answers that science is discovering now. Miracles, man, miracles. that is how religions keep their old faithful, and bring in new ones.
So what is the miracle behind the Qur'an??? Perhaps you can tell us jaanaan how do you view the Qur'an to be a Miracle? Do you think it is The Truth - above and beyond anything that science shows?
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Quran may encompass aspects of Mathematics, Chemistry, Astronomy and other such subjects of science but this is not the topic of Quran. Rather it concentrates on the fundamentals of the faith and essential things (such as acknowledgment of a Creator, of there thus being a purpose to life and by that, a continuation after death, of the need for man to know this thus the sending of prophets, and so on) the rest all falls into place from there.
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I once did. now i am doubtful.
who came up with those rules by the way? did God send them or did the Prophet devise them? or is it the later people?
Laws of religion were perfected and completed by Rasool Allah. Before leaving the world he advised to cling onto Quran and his progeny who were the inheritors of his knowledge.
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Peace jaanaan
The nature of the Qur’an is not scientific, but where there’s a basis that cannot be taken other than in a scientific way then it should be accepted. Belief in the unseen not only constitutes belief in what cannot physically be seen, but also belief in something being true when it escapes our understanding.
Muslims try to muster as much as we can to understand, and the rest we put to trust … There are many things we take as normal these days, but in those times they were not seen and may be never questioned.
For example the language in the Qur’an makes it clear that humans can escape the boundaries of the Earth … However, we probably never realised this for all those centuries until a point in time came when people went to space … And then reading those passages again with a fresh modern mind with modern experiences the Words altogether gain another meaning … And this is where the miracle comes in … That new meaning is just a relevant to us as the old one has been to the previous generations …
We don’t inspect science in to the Qur’an, but we realise that Qur’an strikes scientific chords often after the scientific discovery is made and not before …
