New map (Blood Borders)/The Middle East remapped [merged]

Salaams

Click on the map on the right and see the muslim world before and after especially the divison of Pakistan and other strategically, millitarily and economically strong Muslim countries as well

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899

I wonder what the Americans would say if the Muslims proposed the division of USA after all it is a huge country with many social, racial and political divisions.

Re: The division of Pakistan according to US army magazine

:lajawab: I think this is just a warning to Pak to stop worrying about freedom for Kashmir & hold on tightly what it has. Kahin aisa na ho ke Kashmir bhi na mile aur Balochistan bhi jaye :slight_smile:

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i guess moderator will delete this post.

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Someone is dreaming, let him. The drawing includes part of Iran in "Free Baluchistan" as if world Iran and Afghanistan are willing to trade lands and as if Sindh would want to stay with Punjab in case such division occurs. Someone was either on heroine or he has been tested with newer stronger drug.

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This has nothing to do with Kashmir issue mind you :p. Its just someone’s dream based on his look at current affairs in mid-east+Iran+Afghanista+Pakistan. So stop dreaming that US will ever want Pakistan to completely stop funding the groups against India.

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Atleast you accept that Pak is funding groups against India, without asking for proof. That’s a start :lajawab:

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Pak has funded ‘groups’… now which groups? You provide the proof of their involvement :stuck_out_tongue:

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This will never happen. It is day dreaming on part of someone.

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Doesnt matter what groups. Read my post again - "...Pak is funding groups** against India..."**

Thats why I said its a start & a good one :D

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Why is this even a question?

Of course Pakistan is funding freedom fighters agaisnt Indian Colonial Troops in occupied Kashmir....

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Isi liye to bola na, hold on to your country & stop poking your nose in your neighbor’s internal affairs. Otherwise this map will become a reality :yahoo:

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The whole picture? Your right it won't. Iraq being divided isn't that far fetched.

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The US State Department has rejected suggestions that Washington is planning to redraft the boundaries of the greater Middle East, including Pakistan, along ethnic and religious lines.

The purported plan appeared recently in the US Armed Forces Journal along with two maps showing the new boundaries.

The article, by Ralph Peters, was the work of an individual and did not reflect the views of the US government, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

“We are working very hard for a new Middle East that is a free democratic Middle East where people can realise a better way of life, a more prosperous, better educated way of life … but there’s no question of redrawing the maps,” he said. The call for changes in the Middle East, he said, was not generated by the US. “This is a call that comes from the Middle East itself, from the people of the Middle East. So our vision for the Middle East is a vision that is coming from the Middle East itself and that is for a more free, democratic and prosperous Middle East.”

In the article, titled ‘Blood borders,’ Mr Peters argues that borders in the Middle East and Africa were “the most arbitrary and distorted” in the world and need restructuring. Four countries – Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Turkey – are singled out for major re-adjustments. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are also defined as “unnatural states”.

The author argues that such adjustments were necessary to redress the grievances of ethnic and religious minorities living inside large Muslim states.

“The boundaries projected in the maps accompanying this article redress the wrongs suffered by the most significant ‘cheated’ population groups, such as the Kurds, Baloch and Arab Shia, but still fail to account adequately for Middle Eastern Christians, Bahais, Ismailis, Naqshbandis and many another numerically lesser minorities.”

The author also argues that for Israel to have any hope of living in reasonable peace with its neighbours, it will have to return to its pre-1967 borders — with essential local adjustments for legitimate security concerns.

But he admits that the issue of the territories surrounding Jerusalem, a city stained with thousands of years of blood, “may prove intractable beyond our lifetimes.”

According to him, “the most glaring injustice in the notoriously unjust lands between the Balkan Mountains and the Himalayas” is the absence of an independent Kurdish state. There are between 27 million and 36 million Kurds living in contiguous regions in the Middle East, greater than the population of present-day Iraq, which makes the Kurds the world’s largest ethnic group without a state of its own.

While pleading for the creation of an independent Kurdistan, the author says that such a state, stretching from Diyarbakir through Tabriz, “would be the most pro-Western state between Bulgaria and Japan.”

A just alignment in the region would leave Iraq’s three Sunni-majority provinces as a truncated state that might eventually choose to unify with Syria that loses its littoral to a Mediterranean-oriented Greater Lebanon.

The Shia south of old Iraq would form the basis of an Arab Shia state rimming much of the Gulf. Jordan would retain its current territory, with some southward expansion at Saudi expense. “For its part, the unnatural state of Saudi Arabia would suffer as great a dismantling as Pakistan.”

The author suggests the holy cities of Makkah and Madina be ruled by a rotating council representative of the world’s major Muslim schools and movements in an Islamic Sacred State — a sort of Muslim super-Vatican — ‘where the future of a great faith might be debated rather than merely decreed.’

“True justice — which we might not like — would also give Saudi Arabia’s coastal oil fields to the Shia Arabs who populate that sub-region, while a south-eastern quadrant would go to Yemen.

The Saudi family is to be given a small Saudi Homelands Independent Territory around Riyadh.

Iran would lose a great deal of territory to Unified Azerbaijan, Free Kurdistan, the Arab Shia State and Free Balochistan, but would gain the provinces around Herat in today’s Afghanistan — a region with a historical and linguistic affinity for Persia. Iran would, in effect, become an ethnic Persian state again, with the most difficult question being whether or not it should keep the port of Bandar Abbas or surrender it to the Arab Shia State.

What Afghanistan would lose to Persia in the west, it would gain in the east, as Pakistan’s Northwest Frontier tribes would be reunited with the Afghans. Pakistan would also lose its Baloch territory to Free Balochistan. The remaining “natural” Pakistan would lie entirely east of the Indus, except for a westward spur near Karachi.

The city-states of the United Arab Emirates would have a mixed fate — as they probably will in reality. Some might be incorporated in the Arab Shia State ringing much of the Persian Gulf (a state more likely to evolve as a counterbalance to, rather than an ally of, Persian Iran). Since all puritanical cultures are hypocritical, “Dubai, of necessity, would be allowed to retain its playground status for rich debauchees. Kuwait would remain within its current borders, as would Oman.”

Source.

Dream on!

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Source Dawn ??? :smiley:

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State department spokesman. You didn't bother to read the article. I can also show you the excerpts of last US national security document where they've talked about the 'dispute' of Kashmir between Pakistan and India. It didn't address the issue of redrawing of middle east maps though.

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to implement this map
only cockroaches will roam the streets of 1)the proposer 2)india

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Freedom fighter HUH, see the confession of ur so called freedom figher http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-124541815845500318&q=india+pakistan

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Lets not just focus on your whinings, discuss the issue/idea (or rebuttal thereof) right now i.e. dividing so many countries and re-drawing their borders.

PS: Edited.

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Couldn't view the video as yet. (Trying). But, interestingly, it has been uploaded by some Ashok Pandet, who says, 'See the naked face of Islam in terrorist activities". Do I still have to view the video?

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Ashok Pandit is a renowned filmmaker who released his first feature film “Sheen” on the exodus of ethnic Kashmiri Pandit community from Kashmir. A Kashmiri himself who has faced this exodus, his film Sheen has not only attracted the global attraction but it also attracted the attention of the terrorists fighting in Kashmir.

The filmmaker who is also a noted social and political activist associated with Panun Kashmir, a socio-political organization of displaced Kashmiri Pandits, has also been highlighting the plight of the ethnic minorities through his documentaries and films. His documentary film entitled “And the world remained silent” was screened at the House of Commons in the UK in December 2001.