Re: New Israeli raids on Gaza kill 32
Excuse me, but whats this “Israel” you talk about? :aq:
Re: New Israeli raids on Gaza kill 32
The problem is that the Palestinians are duped very easily. They thought that King Farouk of Egypt was their savior in the 1948 War, then Nasser in 1967, then Sadat in 1973, then Arafat in the 80's and then Saddam Hussein in the 1990's and now Ahmedinijad today.
Their leaders need to realize that believing these fantasies from these idiots will not get them anywhere.
In that case they should point their rockets southward and send their suicide bombers into Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? “Israel kills civilians in Gaza”
DEFINITELY, when Israel commites its crime, its quite CLEAR. And if you think thats a bias statement, then you are surely in loss, and your awareness is acute.
And its quite funny, the people you accuse of terrorism, offered a truce, and this was the response by Israel.
They need to be burned down to the ground.
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Lets have a dose of reality here.
Ever since the border with Egypt was broken, the bombardment of Israel has been worse. The collapse of that wall allowed Hamas to bring in huge new rocket supplies. They are building more rockets, and they are using them. They had the option of course to build them and store them. But they chose to use them, why?
Without the rockets landing in Israel there would be no public out cry for an IDF incursion into Gaza. Until now, 65% of Israelis have favored talks with
Hamas. Israel did not want another incursion after the second Lebanon War.
My theory is, that Hamas wanted to kill off the Annapolis peace talks, and to cease any further talks underway. Somehow the violence always starts when
there are peace talks underway.
So the results are predictable. We are in for a couple of weeks of brutal urban combat, messy, sloppy, deadly, and bloody. By the end hundreds will have been killed. Israel will probably try to re-establish a border with Egypt so that the flow of arms will stop.
Gaza will become further rubble, the people will sink further into poverty, Hamas will remain securely in power by virtue of more gunmen than anyone else.
The more things change, the more things remain the same.
But let me tell you one thing. Those of you who deny the sovereignty of Israel are in deep denial. Everytime you utter "push Israel into the sea", you appear a fool in utter denial. The Arabs tried three times to destroy Israel. They lost. You have condemned the Palestinians to this fate. Your ego and your pride and your money keep them fighting. You send them just enough to keep them dying, but never enough to win. Your denial makes you culpable for their deaths.
Perhaps I will change my mind when I see thread after thread discussing peaceful solutions, compromises and solutions that acknowledge the fact that Israel is a victor. When the fighting ends this time, four out of five Palestinians will still be living below the poverty line. Gaza will soon cease to be anything more than a heavily armed camp. They have no economy left, no jobs, and virtually no future. One step closer to Mogadishu.
The Palestinians cannot win. At least give them a good life.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? “Israel kills civilians in Gaza”
Won’t be forgotten, won’t be forgiven…
Everyone has their time…Soon InshAllah…
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you…Witness how they behave with others as they wished to be behaved against…
This will all soon be answered in kind InshAllah…
Re: New Israeli raids on Gaza kill 32
Fighting for independence from tyranny may be slow...The tyrants will use all methods to crush any cry for freedom and the brave freedom fighters will fighting and dying...
In the end, independence is always gained...It's a slow, bloody progress but I wish those that fight for freedom from oppression and tyranny my prayers for success...
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
Many educated and world view holding people in America now realize what this war is all about...Plain and simple genocide...And they have started speaking out against it...Due to the rapid exchange of information available these days and due to those people who have seen first hand what these Muslims go through every day of their lives, the world is becoming more aware of this struggle for freedom by Palestinian Muslims...
It is only the remnants of the myopic troglodytes who refuse to, despite readily available access to information and the atrocities committed by the Zionists, refuse to change the tone set by the media in the middle part of this century to legitimize this genocide...
Majority of Europeans see this as a genocide and more and more people across the world see this as a genocide...But then, Europeans are more extroverted than the Americans, whose only access to the world is through the lens of a Fox news or CNN camera...
And please, stop referring to Occupied Palestine as Israel...There is no country called Israel, just Occupied Palestine under the occupation of Zionists whom Muslim freedom fighters are fighting to expel to regain their independence and freedom...
It is a struggle for freedom and any person who knows what freedom truly stands for will recognize a legitimate struggle for freedom, which is what Muslims in Palestine do every day...
Re: New Israeli raids on Gaza kill 32
But let me tell you one thing. Those of you who deny the sovereignty of Israel are in deep denial. Everytime you utter "push Israel into the sea", you appear a fool in utter denial. The Arabs tried three times to destroy Israel. They lost. You have condemned the Palestinians to this fate. Your ego and your pride and your money keep them fighting. You send them just enough to keep them dying, but never enough to win. Your denial makes you culpable for their deaths.
Perhaps I will change my mind when I see thread after thread discussing peaceful solutions, compromises and solutions that acknowledge the fact that Israel is a victor. When the fighting ends this time, four out of five Palestinians will still be living below the poverty line. Gaza will soon cease to be anything more than a heavily armed camp. They have no economy left, no jobs, and virtually no future. One step closer to Mogadishu.
The Palestinians cannot win. At least give them a good life.
+1
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
DEFINITELY, when Israel commites its crime, its quite CLEAR. And if you think thats a bias statement, then you are surely in loss, and your awareness is acute.
And its quite funny, the people you accuse of terrorism, offered a truce, and this was the response by Israel.
They need to be burned down to the ground.
I can say the same about the Taliban Nazis
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In that case they should point their rockets southward and send their suicide bombers into Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
maybe they should
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They gain a lot.
The plan is to use Palestinian aggression as an excuse to annihilate the Palestinian population. What else can they do with a population that still insists the land is theirs? Even after it declared a war and rightfully lost? I'm sure if Japan complained about the land it lost in WW2 the whole world would have no problem telling them to shut it.
It's about time we told the Palestinians the same: either shut it or deal with the bombardments. You cant wage a war, have a devastating loss, beg for mercy and STILL insist the whole world hops on a time machine and goes back to 1967.
You do the math. In a decade Israel will have taken care of the Palestinian problem once and for all.
Palestinians could have had there own territory if the Isalmic countries gave them land as they have plenty. This could have been stopped long ago. Seems like praying to Allah to stop the bloodshed has not worked therefore maybe its time the mortals sat down behaved humanely with rational thought and worked to achieving a Palestinian state .
It's the children of Palestine and Israel that have to suffer for the stupidiity of adults who rather deal with their own warmachine egos then work toward developing a cohesive stance on giving the Palestinians a homeland.
It is despicable that over 100 people have been killed by the Israeli rockets but the Hamas militant rocket attacks have to stop. What does Hamas think there will be no response? Hamas used the homes of innocent people to launch their rockets and those building were targetted by Israel., Perhaps Hamas has to revisit why they use innocent people's neighborhood to launch their attacks.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
HAMAS asked for it by using rooftops of neighborhoods to launch their rockets. Israel doesn't resort to suicide bombers like the Taliban who launch themselves into crowds of school children and women. They kidnap mentally retarded people and strap them with bombs and send them off to markets filled by fellow muslims.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
not relevant. hamas writing letters to israel begging to be bombed, doesnt come into the picture. it doesnt make israel any less of a *******.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
Crescent you love this, you would rather have war with Israel than peace with Israel. Let me say that again. You would rather have war with Israel than Peace with Israel. So stop with your crocodile tears.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? “Israel kills civilians in Gaza”
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that is why i said wrong type of muslim…:halo:
also, try not to give any importance to m2k’s posts. i’ve said it many times all he cares about is jews/israelis. heck if they bomb the hell out of the world, he’ll be the first to praise their Godly acts.
Jews/israelis bombing the hell out of the wrold? hahahaha what a comedian, hahahahahahahaha
It seems where many islamic settle they then have fundamentalists amongest them who seem to go about bomding countries around the world in their misgotten islamic imperialism . Lets see, Abu Sayaf in Phillipines, South Thailand, and lets not forget the suicide bombers in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan , oh yes, Georgia , Sudan and the list goes on. Now where exactly in the world are the Jews doing the same? It;s ok for fundamentalists to butcher and murder muslim on muslim for no apparent reason and having some maniac mullah say its okay. While Israel is defending itself from the Hamas rocketts. Why don’t you rail against the Hamas who use the roof top of homes of innocent (not all) people to launch their offensive rockets into Israel?
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
Crescent you love this, you would rather have war with Israel than peace with Israel. Let me say that again. You would rather have war with Israel than Peace with Israel. So stop with your crocodile tears, you are a phony.
Not only he, but a few million other muslims. I for one believe Israel has the right to exist and to their self-determination. If more thought like me then a Palestine homeland would have been achieved. But, as some would say , I am female and moderate so my thought wouldn't count.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? “Israel kills civilians in Gaza”
Israel asked for it by its illegal occupation of Gaza and West Bank.
What Israel is doing is SHOAH (holocaust).
Even European and American Zionists know that:
http://www.africasia.com/services/news/newsitem.php?area=mideast&item=080302210729.qvxuest1.php
“The violence needs to stop and the talks need to resume,” US National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe told reporters at President George W. Bush’s ranch in Texas.
The European Union criticised Israel’s “disproportionate use of force,” while the UN Security Council, meeting in an emergency session, urged all sides to “immediately cease all acts of violence.”
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
Israel asked for it by its illegal occupation of Gaza and West Bank.
The only reason that Israel occupied West Bank and Gaza is because Arabs launched a war on Israel in 1967
Egypt and Jordan controlled West Bank and Gaza Strip for 20 years
Why did they not create a palestinian country on that?
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
^DUH, its easier to have hatred for Israel and blame them for all the Palestian woes then take several moments for reflection and realize the demon exists within.
Re: Where are the muslims sleeping? "Israel kills civilians in Gaza"
not relevant. hamas writing letters to israel begging to be bombed, doesnt come into the picture. it doesnt make israel any less of a *******.
Yes, lettters written or missle fired are very much relevant. Too bad Palestinians apparentely share this ignorant point of view. Many lost their lives because of this today.