New Indian extremist group "thirsty for Pakistani blood.."

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I didnt equate it to them.. Im only saying that this groaning from a country like India is sheer hypocracy. When you can kill 2000 of your own people, and no one in India even cares enough to protest (unlike this attack), then you really have no moral ground to stand on.
I think India cares less about the loss of life, and more about the fact that the loss of life is presumed to be caused by terrorists from Pakistan.

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Im not accusing all Indians of Gujrat.. What I accuse you (the people and govt of India) of is hypocracy.
The week after Gujrat, thousands of people protested. Where is the same hue and cry for the thousands killed by your own people in Gujrat?
Where is the shock and disgust over the reelection of Modi?

I didnt say that Gujrat occured in Pak..
What I said, is that you people want the world to empathize with you, which is fine. But when you people in India show so little regard for the life of your own people, why should the world suddenly empathize with you?
You want Pakistanis to care that people died, and we do. But you yourselves dont care, so its seems like empty rhetoric coming from India to be quite honest.

Again, I think this has less to do with people being killed in Mumbai and more to do with who you think did the killing.

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Bhai try to think,
Its their ghur ka mamla. But where was the shock and disgust over what happened in Gujrat?!?! No one was brought to justice, and the main protaganist was rewarded! Compare how the dealt with that situation to the this attack in Mumbai.
Somehow, they forgot all about the 2000 men women and children that were slaughtered, and yet they all came out in protest of the people killed in Mumbai... You dont see the hypocracy there?
Why should a people who dont care about the lives of 2000 of their own people expect any kind sympathy and understanding now?
It seems Indians care less about the loss of life and more about the fact that the terrorists were Paksitanis.
Its not finger pointing, its all within the context of this hysteria Indians have started post Mumbai.

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Then why did your government ban JuD.

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Because the Pak govt is a responsible entity and it choose to ban the organization to satisfy the international communty, instead of ratcheting up tensions for no reason like India has.

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Re: New Indian extremist group "thirsty for Pakistani blood.."

^^

Do you even read what you write. You say that your government will go ahead and ban any organization to satisfy the international community/India. I am not surprised by this answer considering the fact that your former President broke down when some lowly officer from the US threatened Pakistan.

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Re: New Indian extremist group "thirsty for Pakistani blood.."

New Indian extremist group "thirsty for Pakistani blood.." ....i really wonder that people in pakistan can so easily be misled.

A state high commissioner is threatened...an official coplained is lodged.....but there is no confirmation of this state level complain.....what the news agency Dawn thinks about it instead of fulfilling the newspaper.....

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Bhai. If you happen to be an Indian, then start a petition, setup a website, or raise funds for a Gujarat holocaust museum.

but if you are a Pakistani, we ought to be worrying about our pathetic situation with minorities.

May be they do, may be they don't.

Does that change the situation, that a group of Pakistani Islamists killed 200 innocent people in bombay?

A great crime was committed in Bombay, and so far it looks like Pakistani guys went over there to do the heinous deed. We should just focus on our militants and not give lectures to Indians on how to run their country.

Surely one day, If Pakistan is the bastion of minority rights, and people from all over the world can come and feel safe in Pakistan, we could perhaps "assist" India in improving their human rights record. But that looks far far away at this stage.

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Your missing the point. Its irrelevant whether im Indian or not.
The point is simple, India expects people to suddenly fall over themselves in grief over these deaths.
Thats fine, but I find this moral outrage to be hypocritcal.
To me it seems this is less about the deaths, and more about what the supposed Pakistan involvement.

A great crime was commited in Bombay, but lets keep things in prespective. Indians have turned the whole situation upside down. Their reaction is the problem. The Indian media, and many Indians went out of their way to pin the whole thing on Pakistanis in general.

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Why is this such a shock to you? Obviously some action has to be taken considering the international community expects some level of cooperation. Besides that, the country is performing its own investigation. Its politics... I would expect an Indian to understand politics.
Personally I wouldnt ban the group, but the govt is apparently more responsible on this note, so they did what they had too.

If your surprised, then go speak to Musharaf about how he broke down.
Simple point, a US official never says anything that isnt cleared or has atleast been acknowledged by his superiors. Armitage was obviously given a nod to use such threats by the administration... All such statements have to be in line with the official line. This isnt New Delhi we're talking about here.
And the situation after 9/11, you seem to have ignored.. Do you happen to remember George Bush saying if your not with us, your against us?
Obviously the US President cant be seen making threats like this one, so its up to a "lowly" officer to make the point for him.
Im sure you understand.

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LOL... The IRONY of being accused of being easily misled by an Indian!
I suppose we should be relying on Indias masala media for our information?

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We dont want your grief and neither do we expect grief from your side. What we want from Pakistan and Pakistani people is to act against these terrorist organizations and do not show sympathy to these guys. When Pakistan and Pakistani people deny that these terrorist originate from Pakistan and are reluctant to act against them, then we have all the rights to be angry.

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Im sure you dont... I just expect you to understand how your so called grief is completly hollow and completly shallow..
Kill 2000 of your own people in cold blood without even a hue or a cry, and your right, you shouldnt expect anything from anyone.
Cry me a river..

Books.
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I do not understand how the above statement is relevant to the topic......

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Im sure you wouldnt understand.

Simple point.
Why should India expect anyone to care about the attacks in Mumbai and the people who died, when Indians themselves dont care about the lives of their own people?

Seems Indians are less concerned about the loss of life, and more about the fact that the people doing the killing were from Pakistan.

Just pointing out the hypocracy in this whole hysteria going on India... Somehow I didnt see this craze among Indians when they were going around killing their own people.

Im surprised none of you Indians can actually confront this hypocracy yourselves.

Timepass - November 2012
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And Pakistani govt has said that Kasab is Pakistani..
What we want is for India to to do exactly what Miliband had said, resolve the issues at hand and you deny such terrorists a place.
Pakistan is doing what it can, but ultimately its you Indians who have to resolve the issues. Your govt is dead wrong on Kashmir, and this festering wound is what creates the problems.
Obama was right, you have ambitions to be on the world stage, but you mess around with petty issues.
Another thing that would be nice is for India to stop being so overly dramatic. Arrogance isnt going to resolve anything.

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Going by the same logic ... Pakistan should not be complaining about the drone attacks ...... more "innocent" people are being killed by Pakistan army !!!!!!!!

The point is whatever be the issue "within" India are India's problem's tackled within India ... but if some "outsider" comes and kills people in India ... what are Indian's supposed to do !!!!!!! Take it up with people who are responsible for ruling that part of the world, so what is hypoctical about it ...

Let us say someone commits a murder in US and runs away to Pakistan ... what will you tell US ... people are being killed in US so why are you "after" this one guy !!!!

As for Kashmir .... India has been ready to sort it out with Pakistan ... in 1999 Indian PM went to Pakistan and signed "lahore" declaration ... what happened next is what the problem has been in India Pak relationship .... the group that has "interest" in keeping the India Pak "pot" boiling took over. So till there is a change in this "groups" outlook , India and Pak will be at it.

Pakistan has to realize that at the end of day it has to sort this problem with India and India alone. This is in India's interest and this is Pakistan's interest!!

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Totally agree, nice post. Pakistan has to think with its head, if it plays its card right by staying away from pro-western policies as much as possible aswell as improving its trade with China and Iran, then we can look to have a prosperous future. As for the Indian terrorist let them bark.

Can the moderator please ban these Indians too many here for my liking, thanks. Btw im sure psquared will be happy to let these Indian in to our great watan. Indians stop having an inferiority complex on a pakistani website and join indianforum.com or whatever websites you lot talk on.

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So, this guy has decided to teach us...I mean, to teach India.....has he ever looked at his backyard?

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Um no.. That doesnt make sense at all..
Pakistan Army isnt killing innocent people, and the drone attacks are intended for known terrorists.. And PAKISTAN should not complain.

The fact is that the Indians DID NOT do anything about it... I dont know what news you read, but no one has ever been brought to justice.
Murders in the US are SOLVED! The police go to the ends of the earth to solve crimes that happen in America, so you would understand why people would want to go after a guy who ran of to PAKISTAN.
In India, mass genocide is ignored, or its perpetrators are rewarded with being reelected... Thats the difference.

Whats hypocritical is this fake outrage over the murders in Mumbai. There was never this outrage over crimes that were FAR worse by comparison, commited by Indians themselves. Where were the thousands to protest the deaths the Gujrati Muslims, and all the other mass orgies of violence..

Its not about defending your own people, the fact is that India are very selective of their outrage. Its only a country like India, where 2000 or more people can be brutally slaughtered, and everyone goes about their bussines as usual.
This fake outrage over Mumbai is disgusting.
Why should any Indian, expect anyone to care, when they themselves dont care about their own people.