ALLAH may bless you,
it seems that end of time is near because every day new fitnas are getting up. i have seen such fitna and now i want to share it with you
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ALLAH may bless you,
it seems that end of time is near because every day new fitnas are getting up. i have seen such fitna and now i want to share it with you
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i thought its shakeela ![]()
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I cannot really comment on what he was saying since i have little knowledge about at the moment.
but i say one thing rather appreciate one thing that i really like his way of talking. he isnot shouting or going emotional. he is saying everything politely and calmly.
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haha nice ploy to have every one listen to tablighi tariq jameel sahab.
BTW - he is not knew and has been speaking this way for ages. He does quote from hadith book but on limited occasions. This is the standard for Hanafi scholars in India and Pakistan, specially those of Tabligh.
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Where is he pulling this stuff out of. I liked his style and many of his lecture , but after listening to all this made up stuff I lost respect for him.
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This is the thing.....they do tell you inspirational stories and events....those which would push you towards religion........but they don't have references usually...
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He is not telling inspirational stories , he is laying from cheek to cheek with all those juicy details , he is saying Allah will say this and Allah will say that and then he says Allah will sing a song for audience .
To me all these details of a scene from heavens is outright a lie. I will make sure that he does not pray my namaz a janaza.
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Those who do not have the istadat (ability) to listen and obey will always take things in wrong direction. You guys are calling Maulana sahib liar and all sort of other names like you got a certificate from Allah (swt) that Maulana sahib is wrong. What kinda of deeni knowledge you have to call him liar and state what he is saying is wrong? Allah tum per reham karay. Don’t worry you and Maulana sahib and all the humanity is not going to live in this world for ever. A day will come and you will see with your own eyes the truth.
After having said that…
Maulana sahib is trying to give an example which you guys took totally wrong. What he means is that Dawood (as) and Prophet Muhammad (saw) and Allah (swt) will recite the Quran in such a melodious voice that the residence of Janat will enjoy it so much that years will pass and they will thought a moment has passed and they would want to keep listening to the recitation of Quran from the Prophet Muhammad (saw), from Allah (swt). He is saying that Allah, and Prophet Muhammad (saw) will sing just to make an impression for those who listen to songs so they give up this bad habbit and have some patience so the reward will be bigger in Janat that all their desires will be fulfilled.
I really feel sorry for you guys for calling Maulana sahib such names. I pray and wish on the day of judgment Allah (swt) make you stand in front of Maulana sahib and than Allah Himself verify what Maulna said was right and what he meant was reciting of the Quran but he used the word singing to make it understand to those ignorant people who indulge themselves listening to music in this world.
And to make my point more clear…here listen to the recitation of the word of Allah (swt) the Quran. When a normal human being recites the Quran in such a beautiful voice imagine when Prophet Muhammad (saw) and Allah (swt) will recite the Quran what effect the ears will have and that too in the Janat of Allah (swt) is beyond imaginations. You can’t even imagine it.
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^ just curious.....did maulana saab read this in any Hadith??
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^ brother its in the Quran and Hadith I don't have the refrence with me but I heard in one of Maulana's other speech where he gave refrence from Quran and Hadith.
You see you yourself not sure if its in Quran or Hadith than why you are so quick to call Maulana sahib a liar? It would really be nice if you had done your homework, try to find from a proper source that what Maulana sahib is saying is not in Quran and Hadith than call him liar. Thousands and thousands of Muslims listens to Maulana sahib and respect him so much and believe what he says is true not because he is good in giving talks instead because he spent 9 years to learn the knowledge of the deen of Allah (swt) which is only and only Quran and Hadith and he spent all his life in the path of Allah trying to pass the message of our Prophet Muhammad (saw) to others and trying to connect mukhlooq with their creator Allah (swt).
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^brother it's not in Quran and probably not in any Sahih Hadith book.....I think Maulana sahib is mixing up some gharib riwayahs.
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^^ Sr. Hareem - you maybe right..but the real core issue is that this is modus operand,i for the tablighi and hanafi/deobandi scholars from Pak / India / BD etc. They don't like quoting references.
Heard so many of TJ's "bayans". He works on peoples emotions big time. Saeed Anwar, Junaid Jamshed, and many others all joined Tablighi jamaah because of TJ's bayans and "work".
May Allah swt guide all to the authentic quran and sunnah.
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ther is nothing wrong in this bayan ![]()
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^^ Sr. Hareem - you maybe right..but the real core issue is that this is modus operand,i for the tablighi and hanafi/deobandi scholars from Pak / India / BD etc. They don't like quoting references.
Heard so many of TJ's "bayans". He works on peoples emotions big time. Saeed Anwar, Junaid Jamshed, and many others all joined Tablighi jamaah because of TJ's bayans and "work".
May Allah swt guide all to the authentic quran and sunnah.
hehe I don't know.....tablighi lectures always make me feel sleepy. Zzzzzzzzzzz
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yup, they make you sleep because blessing of Allah and noor around you therefore you sleep. mashaAllah.
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good reply Mirch unlce. you convey very nice message. jazaAllah khair.
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yup, they make you sleep because blessing of Allah and noor around you therefore you sleep. mashaAllah.
No. That's not the reason, their lectures don't work on me because I know 90% of their stuff is illogical and they can't even provide any proof.
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Peace All
I think we have heard of this:
Pious fraud or pious lies … I’m not saying this is the case with Maulana Tariq Jameel … not at all … However it has been known that riwayat that has gradually seeped into our teachings are of this nature. It is likely that he is quoting a story from Tablighi sources many steps removed from actual hadith …
This means there is a lot of interpolation and extrapolation in the narratives of Tablighi Jamat books. Consider it like seeing a lot of stars in the sky … some people see them as beautiful as they are … but some people become more amazed if you draw lines between the stars to make pictures. It is the case of connecting the dots that in essence do not really need to be connected.
It is embellishment and the style focusses on moving hearts rather than providing factual information … My only problem with this is way the stories are told … When they are told … we should say things like "imagine if … " rather than saying “this will happen, this will happen” … The “imagine if” precursor tells us that such and such is possible but not necessarily in that manner or order of the narrative.
I have a lot of time for ulema who want to breed love and compassion in our hearts and souls … It is more important for me to work on “character” than anything else … since “good character” is the premise of all good acts.