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Well in pakistan anything out of the ordinary looks impressive. For example the first vending machine (guarded by a live chowkidaar) in Uzma Arcade looked pretty impressive too. 
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Looks like run of the mill sky scrapper, i've seen similar tower style glass buildings in lahore (not as high of course) and they don't look all that impressive, look good I guess but not that impressive.
Now the new lahore airport , that looks impressive. It's got style and class. Buildings of old-er design but in good condition in lahore look more impressive than those glass buildings I just mentioned. Architecture looks impressive if it has style according to culture and surroundings. Example, malaysia's new capital and their new airport. Very very modern but with architecture of an unmistakeable style. They could have built something ultra-modern western style but that would never be as impressive as it is now. Giving lahore, a newyork look does not impress me.
I think the lahore Holiday Inn looks more impressive than this, with its quite modern red color building.
We'll see how this looks once its built.
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50mil $ in 20 months, that will create lots of jobs, impressive :k: design jaisa bhi ho.
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just 2800 sq-ft? that’s smaller than our house!
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i remember how big of a deal was the first gas bar/convenience in karachi… the one opposite to the drive-in cinema
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the restriction of height is in place in many cities. but its not because of minar-e-pakistan .. the reason is of infrastructure and safety. In pakistan we dont have proper safety procedures. We dont have fire fighting equipment good enough to handle skyscrapers. plus evacuation procedures in case of any emergency etc.
Another reason was to preserve the historical sites in the surroundings. imagine if u built 4-5 skyscrapers around badshahi mosque or minar-e-pakistan etc
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cool
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People in Pakistan are dying of hunger, and these ****ers are building 6-star and 5-star hotels. Must be on poor punjabi farmers land.
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YEEEEY!!! 10-star poverty in Pakistan YEEEEEEY!!!
The poverty debate
In September 2000, around 150 heads of state, pledged to do our utmost to free our fellow men, women and children from abject and dehumanizing conditions of extreme poverty', at the UN Millennium General Assembly.
This pledge was then translated into eight goals, the Millennium Development Goals. The first goal was to eradicate extreme poverty and hunger'. The issue of 'Poverty' in Pakistan has gained much importance since the conclusion of the UN Millennium General Assembly.
In Pakistan the government has taken various steps to combat poverty but the dilemma is that despite of all these measures, according to independent sources, poverty is not decreasing and some estimates even show that it is increasing.
There also seems to be a gap between the public view and the view of the policy planners regarding the poverty trends, as the government claims that the poverty in 2004 has declined by around four per cent.
Economic Survey 2003-04 has a complete chapter on 'poverty' which begins: "Poverty has many dimensions in Pakistan. The poor have not only low incomes but also lack access to basic needs such as education, health, clean drinking water and proper sanitation.
The latter undermines their capabilities, limits their opportunities to secure employment, results in their social exclusion and exposes them to exogenous shocks".
The official method of measuring the poverty line uses an approach based on calories required. The Planning Commission adopted an official poverty line based on a caloric norm of 2350 calories per adult per day. On individual basis, this poverty line approximates to Rs748.56 per month per adult equivalence.
This means that in 2000-01 a household of six persons having an income of less than Rs4500 was poor and below the official poverty line. This is, however, a statistical income threshold, and does not necessarily imply that households above this ceiling do not suffer from various dimensions of poverty.
On the basis of the official poverty line, the government says that the incidence of poverty in Pakistan has increased from 30.6 percent in 1998-99 to 32.1 percent in 2000-01'.
In 2004 the Federal Bureau of Statistics conducted a sample survey (sample was one third of the sample covered in the survey of 2000-01) which, after taking into consideration inflation, set the poverty line at Rs848.798 per adult equivalent per month.
On the basis of the results of this survey, the government claims that the poverty has declined by around four per cent to 27.9 percent in 2004. The government believes that a major factor contributing to this decline in poverty was the growth in Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
It also reckons that with this rate of decline, the poverty target in the first Millennium Development Goals seems to be achievable. This belief of the government is not widely accepted.
Independent researchers and some organizations like Social Policy and Development Centre (SPDC) are of the view that the incidence of poverty has consistently increased since 1992-93. According to SPDC estimates, almost 33 percent of the population is still living below poverty line. This has initiated a new debate.
The questions are that what do people believe about poverty and its trends? Is poverty increasing or decreasing? Why is there this difference between the views of policy makers and the independent researchers? What is the strategy government has employed to combat poverty and what are its shortcomings?
Recently, the author conducted a small survey of some 40 men and 40 women in a poor locality of Karachi. The area surveyed consists of people coming from all the corners of the country.
The purpose was to see how the people who are actually suffering from poverty and hunger view these problems. Usually researchers apply sophisticated tools to measure poverty but this exercise was to see the different dimensions of poverty from the view point of the actual sufferers. The qualitative aspects of poverty are as important as the quantitative aspects.
When the people were asked what do they think poverty is? They gave following responses (some of the selected responses are given, as many repeated the same):
**1. 'We are hungry, naked, and ill, what else is poverty? But we deserve this because we are not born to a chaudhry, wadera, rich, or a general' (a beggar of around 40 years age).
Joblessness is poverty, hunger is poverty, diseases are due to poverty, poverty is death.... You know death? (a car driver)
'We can't feed our children, my children are uneducated, they don't wear clothes like you wear, they are black not because I'm black....you know they are black because we live in a house which has no roof. I say this is poverty'(a mother of four children from Rahim Yar Khan who came to Karachi when her in-laws refused to provide her shelter after her husband's death).
'Why do you ask me? Who listens to us? Whoever comes in power tries to make money for himself/herself and his/her family. They send their children abroad to study and we can't even send our children to study in the local schools...when we go to these schools they abuse us as we are not humans... you make United Nations but what this United Nations has done for the poor? They make programmes but how many more generations will it take to show the results? Poverty is increasing...If you say it is decreasing I don't believe it...when my income was Rs4000.**
I had to take loan from my friends of four hundred or five hundred every month.... now my salary is Rs4500 and now I take Rs1000 every month which I seldom pay back to my friends and Sahib...why do you think this happens? Prices...prices are making us poor and poor (a middle pass chowkidar).
If we try to form a collective response of 'poor' about poverty it would perhaps be like this: "poverty is about hunger, about proper clothes to put on, about shelter to live, about non availability of education, about joblessness, about diseases and inability to cure them, about the lack of respect in the society, about the fear from the powerful, about the fear from the system, about the fear from the lawlessness, about the fear from life and existence but not from death".
The second question, "Is poverty increasing or decreasing?" was targeted towards people's perceptions about poverty trends. The survey conducted by the author, of 40 men and 40 women, mentioned above reveals that 35 women and 32 men believed that the poverty is increasing.
Although the sample size was very small to draw any final conclusion, the results do depict a general perception about poverty trends. Thousands of Pakistani workers have been laid off from their jobs in many Middle East countries, the agricultural terms of trade are also declining for Pakistani farmers (agriculture contributes around 24 percent to GDP and employs slightly above 42 percent of the work force), private investment to GDP ratio has remained constant at around eight percent and the cases of hunger can also be witnessed.
All these factors suggest that the poverty is on a rise. Either the growth alone strategy is not working or it is going to take another half decade to trickle down the effects of economic growth to the poor.
The difference in poverty estimation can be because of various reasons. Poverty estimates are very sensitive to factors such as, the methodologies, the sample size, caloric requirement, prices taken to convert the expenditure into caloric intake etc.
Apart from 'calorie' approach, researchers use basic needs approach also, in which a person is considered poor if his or her consumption or income level falls below some minimum level necessary to meet basic needs. Hence, it is very much possible that researcher may come up with different estimates.
The views of the government and the independent researchers also differ when it comes to the strategy to combat poverty. It appears that the government has put all emphasis on the growth and has neglected the distribution side.
A recent report of SPDC launched on December 20, 2004 emphasizes that growth alone cannot reduce poverty significantly at least in the short run, and in order to ensure sustainable development and consistent decline in poverty it is necessary to take policy measures to directly address inequality.
The 'growth alone' philosophy is an old philosophy and it generally favours the rich class. The alternative strategy, many researchers propose, is the reduction of recurring expenditures, increase in development expenditure and special poverty targeted social/human development programmes, along with high GDP growth.
We have seen the decade of 1960s which observed consistent growth but the poverty was highest by the end of 1960s in the history of Pakistan. During the mid 1970s although the GDP growth was not as promising as in 1960s, poverty was decreasing.
The reason was perhaps better distribution policies of the government of that time. Although we appreciate the growth oriented-policies of the government, it would also seem necessary for policy makers to focus their attention towards distribution policies. Though, the philosophy of 'growth alone' can get votes of the rich class, it can also cause unrest in the masses.
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Looks like an office bldg on sh. zayed road.
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has the contruction of the building started yet? The thread seems pretty old.
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Actually, development can exist side by side with poverty. China still receives aid despite the fact that it will outgrow US economy in 10 years.
India has developed leaps and bounds despite the fact that 300 million poeple live beow the poverty line. If you concentrate on only eradicating poverty, the rest of the country, and its position in the world will regress.
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shah kills, you should be kicked hard. Its the mentality like you show in your post that is leading to the destruction of that country.
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A hotel this big will provide jobs for a lot of skilled and non skilled workers. Room service, marketing, luxury and care people, cleaning crew, car rental, hotel resteraunt etc etc, and many other jobs aswell I believe, so such constructions are not a bad thing at all..
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I think we really need these skyscrapers. Everey city in the world is getting those and I think we should have a skyline for Lahore & Karachi. Both are one of the mega cities. Our cities are alot cleaner now and I think highrises will make them more beautiful.
PC Tower
Lahore:
Bahria Twin Towers, Rawalpindi / Islamabad :
Bahria Twin Towers
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Thats not all
Karachi will have Port Tower 1500 Ft Tall some other highrises.
U can see Port tower Here
Lahore is going to host 50& 55 storey building at current Faletti hotel site along with a disney land. PARCO building that will be 35 storey tall. Dozens of highrises on Main bouleverd Gulberg and 4 skyscrapers in DHA 32 storeys tall.
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I love Lahore.. tho i only went for 3 days… but I feel in love with the place :k:hotel looks amazing
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nice to know that the basic problems ( roti kapra and makan ) were taken care of finally in pakistan - and now we can move over to making 40 storey 6 star mega structures :k: