reason for edit: it has gone nasty now.
Like seriously calling people jerks, accusing people of bad mouthing u, plastering random people numbers over a public forums. really shows how professional u r. I really don't think ur cut out for this kinda job so stick to what ur good at!
well cuz u were being a jerk and u were badmouthing me so THERE!
Maham what Is my fault? there was a misunderstanding which was ur fault. u didn't get back to me and u knew tht. Ur the one who's opened up the thread not me. so tell me whats my fault?
And plz dont lie u did not leave me any msg earlier on!
I feel sorry for you, i think you are mentally challenged or something cuz anyone can see i posted on yr profile, i replied on my blog 2 yr same question and i shud still have the msg i sent to u in my sent box. So really, either get yrself mentally checked or stop faking to be all that honest.
I opened this topic to give u a chance 2 tell me what yr problem is, cuz u have been taking out yr anger at me at other topics so i thought u shud do it as the relevant topic if there be any need for it.
yea am still waiting!
Ur lies r just endless!
U left msgs for me?
I'm blaming u in other posts and topics?
u was waiting for my confirmation? - When u didn't even tell me how much the outfits where gonna cost. I said I was confused at the rps 6000 for embroidery. and then I sent u a pm with the four outfits I wanted u to check the prices for. ur misunderstanding not mine!
Maham ur the one who opened up the thread. so kindly answer the questions
p.s. I never once went and bad mouthed u to others but now I'll do it with a passion!
be my guest! lol, do u think i give a [edited] about what u have 2 say about me. LIke seriouslY! i don't want to discuss you otherwise people wud know what kind of crediability u have 2 discuss anyone at all.
Ladies, I have been a silent observer of all that is going on in our GS community.... and being a client to gs based designer(s)..... I thought I might add my two cents in here.
There is a service being provided for a fee, but that does not mean that we treat each other badly or disrespectfully. For the client, they are getting the service of getting their choice of clothes without having to go to pak and learn all the haggling deal with other things and so on.... and for the home based designers they are also doing this for either additional income or maybe for other reasons......
GS might be an online community but what I do as a client who came from this platform affects other ppl who approach the hbd (home based designer) and how the hbd behaves with me makes me want to explore other hbds that offer their service on this platform..... so you affect me and I affect you.... both ways...
An example from real life... I lived in a small town of N. America and the local walmart had a full refund/return policy of 90 days on electronics no questions asked, our desis started coming to that town for studying purposes and guess what they did... wanted to have a party on the weekend ...go to walmart buy a system ..have a ball and return the item in the next week or before the 90 days are up.... apts not have an AC... no worries, just buy one and use it for 60-90 days and return it .... our desis forced walmart to not give this facility anymore and then they had a 25% restocking fee for all returned merchandise.... so basically abusing the system spoiled it for everyone....
Miscommunication takes place ... we are dealing with a new/old person either on the internet or the phone.... explaining to them what we want, our budgets and all other things can be difficult and it can be the same way with them too.... so a little understanding and a lot of communication can go a long way..... and then comes the trust issue... I want to deal in such a way that these hbd not only respect me but also trust me...and have faith that this platform has given them good clients and will continue to do in the future as well.... and I for one like to make a friend of my hbd and inorder for me to do that and for her to do that we need to be understanding of each other's circumstances....
My request to both parties would be ...pls be patient with each other, understanding and understand that both parties need a certain amount of trust of each other.... and pls be clear... but keep your expectations realistic.... clients only turned to the hbd coz they don't think they should be shelling out BIG $$$ and hassle and the hbds also are in this field to get something out it .... focus on that plus focus on the naikee that is coming from helping a fellow muslim and a fellow pakistani out.... we can try and get rid of the stereotypes that exist in our own minds abt other pakistanis....
I apologize for such a long post and for those who have taken time to read it Jazak Allah khair....may Allah help us all aameen....
no thnx for yr input. I actually told this girl not to say sorry to me when she did on msn after she realised she never confirmed me the order and was asking me if i had bought her stuff. I told her its ok it cud be a misunderstanding and NOW all of a sudden she has been on my case that i didnt get her stuff. I mean how bizarre some people can be! i still kept quiet and msgd her privately that why r u all of a sudden putting all the blame on me and she never replied 2 me but kept at taking digs at me at other randomn topics. So that irriated the hell out of me thats y i thought i shud once n all clear it here.
If i was lying i wudnt have made the effort to put everyone infront of all of u to judge. But i think this person is mentally challenged so maybe i shud just leave her alone.
I think autonome said it very well.
Maham you need to be more professional and be able to take some risks and criticism even if you are not doing it for business but lets say as a hobby.
I dont know colourfull eyes or the whole situation but in all your replies it shows very clearly from your language how you are dealing this in a very unprofessional and childish manner.
I mean is this a personal thing or something?
I mean i dont know what prototype is going through but if she would come here and reply to all the bad customers she would ben wasting a hell lot of time and ruining her reputation and missing out potential customers but most important she wont let her blood boil for petty matters.
at the end of this miscommunication between both of you none have made big losses in terms of money see it as a gained experience.
I was recently told by a friend about riddiculous prices she quoted me, so as a client you put ur trust in a home based designer and you are somewhat dependend on them and i think there should be sme trust towards the clients/potential customers too!
Although i had good experience with a few home based designers from paklinks but really i am getting more and more confused with the increasing numbers of home based designers and copy cats you really want to kno what u r getting before you send your money! and it seems like a price hike and wanting to make huge profits has been followed by many
Maham you need to be more professional and be able to take some risks even if you are not doing it for business but lets say as a hobby.
I was recently told by a friend about riddiculous prices she quoted me, so as a client you put ur trust in a home based designer and you are somewhat dependend on them and i think there should be sme trust towards the clients/potential customers too!
By professional you mean i shud have gone ahead and bought the stuff for her even when she didnt confirm? Cuz i couldnt have done that. I dont have the kind of money to take such risks and nor do i want online clients at such a cost. So i think at the end of the day it comes 2 what yr preferences are. Like i know i would find it hard to trust anyone with my money online but if you gotta do it then u gotta do it otherwise find other ways of getting stuff for yrself. Nobody is forcing you, rite.
I agree people tend to take advantage when they know they r in such a position where they can ask for ridiculious amount of money. BUT you can ask this person yrself that i myself told her how my getting embriodery done for her wl be difficult cuz i dnt have my own karighars hence it wl be not cost effective so she shud drop the idea. I even recommended her to ask proto to do her clothes but she told me she is not taking oders so i was like ok. If i was out here to trick these people i wouldnt be discussing all these options with them like i wud for a friend or family. But in the end when this rude behavior is what u get then u think u might as well not guide them and let them be tricked by those who will charge them 100 times more.
What r u not understand women!
I sent u a PM with the four outfits I wanted. I CONFIRMED them to u thro our msn conversation!!!!
We both agreed there was a Misunderstanding and we both apologized (actually I don't even thing u did tht!) I left u a very friendly casual comment in ur blog and did not go back into it to check ur reply, and tht is hardly a place to talk about clothes orders anyway!
we both agreed there was a misunderstanding u seem to think I didn't confirm my order (even tho I sent u a pm) and I was waiting to hear back from u with prices for stitching, shipping and cost of clothes. which u never did. I'm dealing with two other vendors from gs and they don't seem to have any problems with dealing with my orders apart from u.
The very first thing u told me was tht u have never taken an order from anyone on this forum b4, and I would be the first but then in the very first line of this thread its clear tht this is not the first time in dealing with online customers from this forum so why the unprofessional behaviour and constant lying? U have very clearly opened this thread to show me wrong. from the first post and have continuously insulted me, called me names and used bad language. and still u haven't backed up any of ur fake stories.
I m not here talking behind yr back, if that was the case i wud have not opened a topic for u 2 also c. Thats y i earlier msgd 2 u too that why r u being so negative but u kept at it so i thought maybe this is the only way to settle this.
i don't know even then these people have the guts to talk bad about you.
And i want to say to all these jerks that if u have a problem with me, tell me here. I know i am honest thats y i m not gonna mince my words and attack u at yr other topics like you are doing because you know ur at fault.
well cuz u were being a jerk and u were badmouthing me so THERE!
I feel sorry for you, i think you are mentally challenged or something cuz anyone can see i posted on yr profile, i replied on my blog 2 yr same question and i shud still have the msg i sent to u in my sent box. So really, either get yrself mentally checked or stop faking to be all that honest.
I opened this topic to give u a chance 2 tell me what yr problem is, cuz u have been taking out yr anger at me at other topics so i thought u shud do it as the relevant topic if there be any need for it.
be my guest! lol, do u think i give a [edit] about what u have 2 say about me. LIke seriouslY! i don't want to discuss you otherwise people wud know what kind of crediability u have 2 discuss anyone at all.
no thnx for yr input. I actually told this girl not to say sorry to me when she did on msn after she realised she never confirmed me the order and was asking me if i had bought her stuff. I told her its ok it cud be a misunderstanding and NOW all of a sudden she has been on my case that i didnt get her stuff. I mean how bizarre some people can be! i still kept quiet and msgd her privately that why r u all of a sudden putting all the blame on me and she never replied 2 me but kept at taking digs at me at other randomn topics. So that irriated the hell out of me thats y i thought i shud once n all clear it here.
If i was lying i wudnt have made the effort to put everyone infront of all of u to judge. But i think this person is mentally challenged so maybe i shud just leave her alone.
u have attacked me in every post and accused me of lying and bad mouthing u. According to the policies of this forum no person is allowed to do tht without backing their claims. I'm really not interested in getting into a cat fight with u over something so petty so back ur claims with proof
Supposedly u sent me a pm yesterday tht is in ur sent msg's either post it here or show the mods of this forum. either way I want to see this imaginary pm u sent me!
Why did u open this thread? I have no idea. If I wanted to I could of opened up a thread "my bad experience with Maham S" and told everyone how u dealt (or rather how u didn't) deal with my order. But I wasn't out to bad mouth u. I can understand how hard it must be for u as a vendor to make a clientele on this forum and tht is why I didn't make a big deal about it putting it down to a misunderstanding. but u seem to think I've been bad mouthing u which I want proof of. becoz right now the only liar darling is U!
and oh yeah Me leaving a comment in ur thread where u’ve left a guys number for people to call and harass is not bad mouthing u darling
my post went something like " Wow I’m shocked and glad we didn’t exchange numbers" which u attacked me on and called me names.
Which mayb I shouldn’t of said and just been glad tht I never gave u any of my personal details 
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Yikes.
Anyway, I don't know what is going in this whole situation (and don't really want to know either).
But I want to say that this is the reality of running a business.
Maham, I don't know if you are doing it on a business basis or just offering to buy people fabric, without profit, just to help them out. If it's the latter, then I wouldn't do it unless it was for family or friends (basically people who I know personally and there is mutual trust, then there is no blame if something doesn't work out).
Going back to doing it on a business basis (this in general and not directed at you), you have to be prepared for this kind of thing all the time. It doesn't matter what the business is, the majority of people who ask you for quotes or to find stuff for them, won't end up ordering.
I'm guilty of this myself. In my line of work, I'm always emailing specialist companies for quotes on equipment and a lot of the time we don't end up ordering and don't even inform them that 'thanks but no thanks'. We just assume that they know that this is how sales work.
You do end up putting in your time, effort and money in tasks that won't necessarily make money. But you are not doing it for the short term but for the long term goal that you will build up a customer base that trusts you and feel they can rely on you. I agree that it's not wise to purchase anything without some kind of deposit from the customer. If it's something with limited availability, inform them of the risks etc.
I recall you said something in other threads about buyers here most likely being ripped off. Of course they will be paying more than the basic cost of the fabric, work and stitching because the person doing all this work for them needs to both be compensated for their time and effort and also needs to take a profit. If there's no profit, then what is the point of doing it as a business in the first place?
This was just an issue of buying some fabric, just imagine the effort that needs to go in for a whole order. Bearing this in mind, as far as I know, all the sellers costs are reasonable and justified and their clients are happy to pay them for their efforts and not least a smooth and business like transaction.
I think you should be left to yr madness because obviously you don’t have the capacity to understand anything logically
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YOU say you were really sure about the order n confirmed me but when I didn’t get back to you about it, you left a msg on blog but when I replied there you didn’t bother to check cuz hey, it was only a casual msg from u. Hmm RITE! So much for your concern for your order. GREAT!
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Do you not understand the difference between taking my first order and having interacted with potentials customers before?! Are you on drugs or something?
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Here you go;
My msg to you;
DID YOU BOTHER TO REPLY? NOOOO!
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This is what i posted on yr profile page;
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This on blog;
Aur koi proof chahiye?
Going back to doing it on a business basis (this in general and not directed at you), you have to be prepared for this kind of thing all the time. It doesn't matter what the business is, the majority of people who ask you for quotes or to find stuff for them, won't end up ordering. I'm guilty of this myself. In my line of work, I'm always emailing specialist companies for quotes on equipment and a lot of the time we don't end up ordering and don't even inform them that 'thanks but no thanks'. We just assume that they know that this is how sales work.
You do end up putting in your time, effort and money in tasks that won't necessarily make money. But you are not doing it for the short term but for the long term goal that you will build up a customer base that trusts you and feel they can rely on you. I agree that it's not wise to purchase anything without some kind of deposit from the customer. If it's something with limited availability, inform them of the risks etc.
I recall you said something in other threads about buyers here most likely being ripped off. Of course they will be paying more than the basic cost of the fabric, work and stitching because the person doing all this work for them needs to both be compensated for their time and effort and also needs to take a profit. If there's no profit, then what is the point of doing it as a business in the first place? This was just an issue of buying some fabric, just imagine the effort that needs to go in for a whole order. Bearing this in mind, as far as I know, all the sellers costs are reasonable and justified and their clients are happy to pay them for their efforts and not least a smooth and business like transaction.
Nahi yar, i dont mind putting in such effort for anyone even if the order doesnt go thru because i also enjoy the whole process. BUT the thing is it hurts when the other person is forget being thankful but is pointing guns at us. That's very sad!
And i do understand this whole business is very time consuming n so much of hardwork so whoever does it, deserves good profit. I was just saying in that other topic that one shud not rip off the other person who is helpless cant get clothes frm here theirself n they end up paying 20 times more.
Thanks for yr post :)
U messaged me earlier on asking me why am I being so negative toward u?
wtf women I have been very calm up until now and now ur really starting to piss me off!
WHEN WAS I NEGATIVE TOWARDS U? WHEN DID I BAD MOUTH U???
When did u pm me asking me why I’m being negative towards u. The last message u sent me was on the 11/4/10 thts 3 days ago!
So its my fault I didn’t check ur blog where u told me ur waiting for my confirmation. like a blog is the right place for tht yeah?
Ooh and this is the WHOLE conversation!
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why would I reply to a pm where ur telling me someones put up the same blue outfit for sale. when its not even the same one!
I quite frankly gave up on u!
our pm conversation (as people can see) didn't end on a bad note. then why the hell u opening up a thread about it.
U plonker man!
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Maham, regardless of who is right or wrong, to go onto a public forum and trash someone is just really bad customer service and incredibly unprofessional.
Can somebody plz read this blog entry and tell me was it the right place to tell a customer “tht ohh u haven’t confirmed the order yet”
or would u pm her?
like I said there was a misunderstanding and we have both acknowledged tht.
what I don’t get is why the hell did u open up the thread? becoz u think I’m bad mouthing u?
I want proof!
people can read my pm’s to u I was not rude to u at any point. upset? yes but not rude. so can members of this forum plz tell me by reading my pm did I deserve such abuse in this thread?
Maham, regardless of who is right or wrong, to go onto a public forum and trash someone is just really bad customer service and incredibly unprofessional.
i was not trashing her, she is pushing me 2 do so. i made this topic only to figure out what has gotten to her for such a behavior.
anyway, i guess mods shud shut this topic now cuz definately this women will not shut her mouth and try and understand where she went wrong.
Maham its in your own best interests to *clear up any misunderstandings in private *(to protect your own image and its something the customer will also appreciate). You've done yourself no favors by airing this dispute in public. **
Also with your anger you've escalated a complaint** which could have easily been defused with the minimal of fuss.
Unhappy customers will always vote with their feet. Although saying this, you should always encourage your customers to make complaints (or provide feedback). This way you can identify areas for improvement, convert an unhappy customer into a loyal follower and in the process quash the spread of any disparaging rumors.
Remember the best in business do want their customers to complain.
In this instance,** a simple apology, explanation, empathy, rectification** (what does the customer want), would have sufficed.
OMG! So asking for yr order on blog is right but my asking for yr confirmation is not. Well GREAT!!!
SHUT THE HELL UP! That’s all that i am gonna say to you cuz definately you dont have the brains to understand anything else.
Pyscho!
Maham its in your own best interests to clear up any misunderstandings *in private *(to protect your own image and its something the customer will also appreciate). You've done yourself no favors by airing this dispute in public.
Its ok, i dont care if my potential customers r pyscho like this women then i m better off with them.
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Its ok, i dont care if my potential customers r pyscho like this women then i m better off with them.
Maham remain calm and objective!