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Salaam,

My husband’s parents have been very abusive to me and my husband keeps telling me that they are older and its not that bad and there is nothing he can do beacuse his parents are first. Also if I dont like it I can leave. He is a good man otherwise, very good!!! He treats me nicely but it all get ruined by his parents behavior and him not standing up for me when I need him to… I know Islaam is a perfect religion that has set rights of everyone… I need help Compiling fact about a wifes rights in islaam and how a husband should treat and have other people treat his wife… I am not sure if there is something in hadees or Quraan that states that the husband should protect his wife and stand up for her even if the people hurting her are his own parents. I know parents are given really high place in islaam, but if they are abusive there must be some hadees that talks about how a bahu should be treated and how a husband should protect her…

I did try to talk to my husband but there is not talking to that man… Unless I can find a hadees or Quran aya that I use to show him that see this is why you should protect me against them…

Thanks all. I know we have some really knowlegable people here , I really would appriciate your help and pray Allah gives you ajar for this… I only want Hadees or Ayas as help please. I will do the research as well… please also pray for me that I get through this tough time…

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Chamali, i dont know abt hadees but i can assure u ,u r in my prayers.Everything will be alright soon InshAllah.Recite durood shareef as much as u can .

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What do you term as "very abusive"?

It is all about perception. It seems you and your husband are on different pages when it comes to how his parents treat you. He feels its not "that bad". WHile for you its very abusive.

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Peace Sister chamali

Ohhhh dear! That sounds difficult. The reason being, by the sound of it, all the hadith in the world will not affect your husbands position with regards to you in relation to his parents.

I don't know how abusive they are to you and quite honestly I don't need to know.

First and foremost consider these things:

1) Are you fulfilling the rights of your husband? If not then his parents may find that a reason to have a go at you.

2) Is he fulfilling the rights of his own parents? If not then they will blame you as you are an easy target.

Try to be perfect and blameless before starting the process.

Next ... ensure that your husband does not hear you complain about his parents. Rather it would be more effective if you become sad and silent with him if he doesn't stand up for you.

Give lots of praise about his parents to him on anything good that you see in them. This will make him realise that you are not just being one sided. Let him see that you speak good of them and do so to their face also.

Maskey lagana booree baat nahein if it protects you from insult.

Be even more thoughtful of his parents than him, that will surprise him and make him come towards you.

Remember that Islam puts rights over you and him with each other but he is responsible to his parents not you, as our classic interpretation has us believe.

Ensure that a portion of his money goes to them it is their right and this must be done as Islam prescribes. You will notice the difference if this is not already happening.

Again do plenty of du'as and enjoin all that is good and forbid all that is evil and things like 'music' harden the heart, try to avoid these things. TV dramas create too much problems also people think their lives are like that so avoid watching them and try to stop your in-laws from watching them if they do, by making fun out of the dramas or reading Qur'an when they are on, etc.

You need to toughen yourself up also. Yes, it is important that your husband reads about your rights, but this should be viewed for his own good. Try to engage in a few hobbies and create some sort of link with his parents so you can talk about things that you identify with rather than resorting to the "hum tum" topics.

If the situation is very bad then you need to take things further, but I think you love your husband and he will understand you in time.

My wife ... she is an orphan and she handles my parents nicely now. She used to have lots of problems at first but now she has managed to find a way to balance the act. So do that inshaAllah everything will be fine soon.

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My mother in law is just verbaly abusive and then she fills my husbands ears on false accusations, my brother in law also fill ears of my husband with FALSE accusations, my father in law throws things around when he is upset, and then makes me clean them up, and watches while I clean and makes statements on how I clean, nothing I do is good enough for him. I do give him/them money and me and my husband have given them credit cards for any thing they need, I do clean , cook, iron their clothes, take them out, everything.... they are happy for a while and them they get abusive again. I dont know what I can do to make them happy, and frankly I am tired of trying beacuse my husband doesnt realize anything and finds falt in me every time. I was raised in USA but know my culture and respect it very much. I dont want anyone to tell me that since I am a American I dont do enough so I try every harder to make every one happy.........I just did not expect my life to be like this after marriage.... My husband has told me that If I cant live happily with his parents I can leave.... His parents are the most important people in his life.... as much as it hurt me to hear this I respect his feelings beacuse I love my parents as well and would do anything for them , but at the same time if they take advantage of him I would stand up for him....
May Allah give me a bigger heart so I can learn to live with this or give me a way out of this SOON!!!!!................

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Do you have kids?

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Throwing things and making you clean up is pretty bad.

I don't think you can put up with this for too long. You need to talk to your husband AND your parents and seriously think of some solution.

If you don't have kids, its better not to attempt till you have come up with some solution.

Perhaps it will be a good idea to go to your parents house for some time and let your husband think about it. Let him think of the consequences of you really leaving.

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From what I seen, getting others involved to tell them that they are wrong will only increase their resolve to single you out more than ever or create more hatred towards you even if they try not to show it. Living in a family where you have no communication with them is equally torturous.

Changing your husbands heart will not get you peace with his parents either because they will view it as you snatched away their son or turned him against them. And it will be a difficult balancing act for your husband putting him in awkward situations all the time. Since your husband pretty much does not say a word to them, the change in him will come from a change in his parents.

Your inlaws definitely have the sense of right and wrong, which is why they do not treat their son they way they do you. What you are facing is a problem found in most parents from our previous Desi generation, daughter-inlaws are more like property or servants to them. They went through the same thing believe me. Though there perceptions never changed even in their generation as our perpceptions about these things have changed. What you need to change is there perception of a daughter-inlaw. The you are wrong and right discussion will only lead to confrontation and no solution or at most temporary solution which takes effect as a lack of communication.

What I am saying is really the difficult path to take and you might think I am saying to play complacent and receive more insult for some time. You won't be wrong if that is how you perceive it but if you come out of it gaining their respect, its an enduring and long lasting solution.

You don't fight fire with fire. You put out fire with water. If the water is not sufficient enough it takes a few tries. What I mean is that their abuse has to be met with kindness and help. The more you intensify it, eventually it will break them out of their little world but it all depends on your endurance.

Its always nice to take a stand for what is right but you also need to open up your eyes to the realities around you. Our previous generation venerates respect and feigns at crossing them. Its more difficult to change them than it is to win them over.

The reality is even though you were raised in a western culture, but you don't belong to it and there is a gap between you and your previous generation. Your kids inshallah will not have the same issues as you since both of you will have been raised in the same culture. The other realities are if you are willing to risk a confrontational approach then you must also realize what comes in the eventuality of a divorce. If you belonged to the western culture and people, no problem, breakup and marry another. They do it all the time and accept it as a reality of life. In most muslim countries, our cultures really look down upon divorced women (not saying it is right but it is reality). You have also realize if your actions lead to that then are you willing to endure it and live it out if you do not get married again.

This is as real as life gets. You cannot run away from wrongs and expect them to change by themselves and say I took a stand and separated from it. You still left the wrong as it is. Infact you will shut yourself out of life if you keep running away from wrongs when they happen to you instead of trying to fight it back and change it. Taking a stand is not always the best to way to bring about change.

I asked whether you have kids, the reason I asked is because your kids can bridge your gap between you and your inlaws. They definitely would love their grandchildren. And if you make the grandchildren love and respect them in front of them they will indirectly see you for the good of it.

You do not need to stand up for ideals here but require tact. Inshallah! I hope things work for you. And if it gets really bad as like your husband or inlaws are physically abusing you then it is time to break away or give serious thoughts about separating ways or taking drastic measures as separating from the family of inlaws.

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Chamali, really really sad to hear about your predicament :frowning: I pray that the issues you have resolve soon inshallah.

I agree with the advise ppl have given above. I’m not married yet but I’d like to give you some advise in terms of what I do when stressed…

read namaz-e-haajat (if u dont have the dua for it, i’ll send it to you). Also pray tahajjut prayers (http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=270190) … these things give you a lot of peace. And make lots and lots of duas like:


O Allah! Indeed I, I seek refuge in You from poverty, any lessening in my means, and from humiliation; and I seek refuge in You that I wrong anyone or am wronged.


O Allah! Indeed I ask You of every kind of good, the one to be hastened (of the world) and the one to be delayed (of the hereafter) from that which I know and do not know; and I seek refuge in You from every kind of evil the one to be hastened (of the world) and the one to be delayed (of the hereafter) from that which I know and do not know.


O Allah! Rectify for me my Deen which is a means of guarding my matters and the world which is a means of my livelihood, and make good my hereafter in which is my returning, and make my life a means of abundance of good and my death a means of comfort and peace free of all bad.

May Allah SWT Bless you with patience and the ability & strength to make the right decision.

Wassalam

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My mother always keeps on telling me that one should respect their elders no matter how bad they are, because bravery is in bearing all the pain and keep it cool rather then fighting and standing up in front of them - you say your husband is a good fellow then you should just think that no matter how his parents are its them because of whom you got such a good partner - but yes since we are humans and not even close to being near our beloved Holy Prophet (SAW) then you can just make dummies (i.e. punching bags with your in laws pictures on them ) of your inlaws and beat them up and take all you anger out ;) behind their backs because its bad to even back bite about someone so this is the best way..throw poop the those bads do the worst thing you can imagine of but dont lose your place in the heaven by talking back and rebelling.

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http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?p=5488859#post5488859
^ Go to this post (wird-e-khaas) - if you keep on reciting this inshallah Allah (SAT) will rid of all your problems as soon as possible. one of my worst issue which i thought would never get solved actually did get solved after reciting this and i am not joking this is something that happened very recently so dont worry put all your faith in Allah.

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Try not to fight back with them. If they throw things around and get in a tantrum, just deal with it.

There are many unseen variables here.

Are they on medications?
How old are they? People can become irrational with age.
Are they working?

Start trying to bring up the topic of getting a separate place to live. If you want Islamic references, there are many that command a man to entertain his wife's request for a separate home.

Are you working? Maybe you should try to find a job and get out of the house for some hours of the day so that you don't have to deal with these issues. Or find a hobby - something that takes you away from the home for a few hours in the day.

Talk to your parents about this issue.

Maybe take a break and go home to your parents for a while. Not as a protest necessarily. Just go and visit your parents for a month or two.

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Some of the responses here are so backward.

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Then why don't you give her some modern technique of sorting her problems...

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I don't think Islam permit you to do all this for your husbands parents. If he is so caring about his parents than he should do all this stuff to earn a place in Jannah not that he makes you do all this and thinks he will earn a place in Jannah. What I am saying is that Islamically YOU as a wife of your husband is not bound to do all this for your inlaws. This is all coming culturally not Islamically. But if you do all this to make your husband happy than ofcourse you get the reward not your husband. Islam says to respect your elders but I doubt that you have to put up with all this Islamically. I am searching hadeeth on this as well since I need to discuss all this with my wife.

I am kinda in similar boat...my wife does not like my parents and the other day we had a long dicsussion since we are planning to go to Pakistan after 10 years and the problem is that she wants to live with her parents and I with mine since we are gooing to visit them after such a long period of time. So this does not means that I have to force my wife to look after my parents. Its my duty and I have to make sure my parents understand this. Any way while talking she brought this up that Islamically she is not boud to do "khidmat" of my parents. I told her that she is right on that but than to make me happy its all up to her what she wants to do and what not.

There are few hadeeths related to this...the other day I was talking to someone and he mentioned about those hadeeth. I am searching and if I find I will post it here.

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Question
I want to cook for my husband and my mother-in-law says that its her right to cook for everyone and i dont have any right to cook for my husband. i want to know if that is true

2- also if i insist on cooking for my husband then am i disobeying her or being rude to her
my mother-in-law is very rude to me , by rude i mean saying all sorts of things about my parents, my brothers and sisters and on everything i do with my husnband, also forbidding me everything even if its right, i cant even put a glass by my self at any other place than she ordered, she makes thing and my words into a big something i didnt say and tries infinitely to turn my husband against me but she is nice infront of everyone, so i wanted to ask you that

i- if i ask my husband to get seperated or for some other solution is it wrong of me

ii- by giving me my right is my husband disobeying his mother, if she gets angry with him for that

Answer
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh

It is a great quality to have this eagerness to cook for your husband and keep him happy. May Allah always keep your marriage blissful and keep it safe. You should discuss your situation with your husband and explain to him your desire to cook for him. By desiring and insisting on cooking for your husband you are not disobeying your mother-in-law nor are you not committing any sin. Such an action is not considered to be rude.

Marriage is the coming together of not only two people, but two families. To keep ties and stay in harmony is part or marriage. However, as a wife you are bound to serve your husband only. Your duties and rights are in relation with him and not you in-laws. It is a virtuous deed to be kind toward your in-laws and help them in their daily lives, but it is not incumbent upon you to serve them. Therefore, you should try to the best of your ability to get along with your mother-in-law. Be gentle with her and help her out in the kitchen while sheʼs cooking and other daily chores. Adopt methods of winning her approval. It might seem hard in the beginning, but good character and patience will change her attitude toward you and eventually she will start treating you more kindheartedly.

If it seems too difficult to bear, you may ask you husband for separate accommodations. The financial status of both husband and wife will be taken into consideration on the level of accommodation.

Therefore, we advice you to discuss this matter with your husband and figure out what is the best solution. Do not keep your feelings hidden from him, and express to him openly how you feel. Inshallah by mashwera, the existing problem will be solved.

And Allah knows best

Wassalam

Ml. Ehzaz Ajmeri,
Student Darul Iftaa

Checked and Approved by:

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah

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Thanks ALL,

I was listening to the tafseer of Quraan shareef, I cant recall which sura it was but it was but the talk about about Jins and Shaytaan....

At the end of each day Jins (mini shaytaans) report to shaytaan and tell him that they have helped someone commit suicide, kill people, start war etc... and shaytaan response by saying you have done nothing worth a reward and then a jin come in and tell shaytaan that he has helped break a marriage... Shaytaan is very pleased and rewards the jin.... The point is that Marriage is held very sacred in islaam and we should try our best to keep it strong and not let shaytaan succeed... I am sure my parents in law have help from shaytaan that is why they are trying to get us sepreated.....May Allah open my husbands eyes and ears and he learns his parents behavior toward me is wrong and has the courage to stand up for me and get me the respect I should have...

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^ chamali thats a good way to start…and you never know Allah :swt: might be testing you so keep up the good work sis…and a big :hehe: @ in-laws have help from shaytaan…:hehe:

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They are evil I tell you…

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Sorry