والحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على اشرف الانبياء والمرسلين نبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه اجمعين
Salam, I need all information about the Ahmadiyya-sect for Dawa. I have translated many articles by Dr.Sayyed Rachid (Anti-Ahmadiyya-Movement), May Allah be with him, and also AboutAhmadiyya.com. And I visited many Ahmadiyya-Sites, which just have some articles by merza Ahmed qadiani, and not all, that he worotes.
I need other sites, and also Scann from Merzas Books, like Tazkirah, Roohani Khazain, Braheen-Ahmadiyya (Quran of Ahmadiyya…) and other stuff.
Amazing, amazing.
Dont Muslims have better things to do, than proove each other wrong?
What sort of reward do you expect, by pointing fingers @any sect under
Islam?
My ancesters fled due to fanatics killing in the name of Allah.....
I can understand people in Pakistan perhaps lack some sort of
stimulation or entertainment, since they are always obsessed in
being the right followers of Islam, but c´mon.....abroad....why does
it STILL have such huge importance?
I thank Allah with all my heart, I live in a country where I HAVE a choice to choose how I wish to live. WHEN God has given us the right to determine right from wrong, who are men to judge others?
imagine all the men giving such answers to the prophets when they come to them…
wonder how the message of Allah wud have ever reached the ppl if everyone slammed the same statement on the faces of the prophets that came to them…
if you are willing to have any infrmation about mirza ghulam qadiani, dont hesitate to contact me via PM or email me [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected]
hoping that regarding mirza qadiani or his litrature, i may be able to satisfy you, INSHALLAH
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imagine all the men giving such answers to the prophets when they come to them....
wonder how the message of Allah wud have ever reached the ppl if everyone slammed the same statement on the faces of the prophets that came to them....
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And imagen, if everyone just studied and followed the religion of their ancesters, without even wanting to know what sort of "truth" rest of the sects had to tell? Did you ever go into a mosque/jamaat, you didnt belong to? Imagen if all of us, never dared to study the socalled "opponents"......
Dont distract the thought behind my post.
Did you ever fear for your life, just because you didnt fit in into the larger
community? Did Allah not create the Ahmadis, Shia or Bahai as well? Imagen if all us of had zero tolerance towards minorities and the only luxury we could cared about..is bridal make-up or wedding location.....
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Did Allah not create the Ahmadis, Shia or Bahai as well? Imagen if all us of had zero tolerance towards minorities and the only luxury we could cared about..is bridal make-up or wedding location.....
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abolutly right you are, but GOD made all of these you said, but GOD also give them opurtunity to seek for the truth. if a person got a chance to find the truth and then he doesent adopt the truth, he hinself responsible for that, He cant balme to GOD about that.
And about Ahmadis there is only one thing
KHATUM ALLAHU ALLA KALOOBIHIM, WA AALA SAMAIHIM, WA AALA ABSARIHIM
GOD HAS STAMPED ON THEIR HEARTS, HEARINGS AND EYES.
If you want to know Ahmadiyaa views then you should go to the official site of the Ahmadiyaa Muslim Community. All the books of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are on this site in urdu and there are books in english too on our views. www.alislam.org
You can’t find out the Ahmadiyaa views by reading the books of our opponents because they pick and choose the stuff that suits them. Its like asking abu jahal about the views of the muslims.
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All the books of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are on this site in urdu and there are books in english too on our views.
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Acha mashwara hay, aap ka laikin khali kitabon ko parhnay say kya ho ga, kuch aqal bhi istamal karni paray geeeeee.
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You can't find out the Ahmadiyaa views by reading the books of our opponents because they pick and choose the stuff that suits them. Its like asking abu jahal about the views of the muslims.
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aur rahi baat kah kuch mukhtasir sa stuff nikal kar ussay samnay rakh daina, to chacha ghalib jee main aap kay samnay kuch page rakhta hoon mirzaa qadiyani ki apni tahreeron kay phir aap mujhay uss ki logic samjha dijye ga. kah aisay fazool aur wahiyat ilfaz mirza qadiani nay apni tahreeron main istamal kiye hain, kah koi samjhdar shakhas ussay nabi to doooooooor ki baat aik sharief isnan bhi samjh sakta.
agar aap chahtay hain to main aap ko paish karon ga uss ki (Mirza Qadiani) tahreerain aur Inshallah context kay saath paish karon gay.
Hay aap main hosla kay aap mirza kay haq main koi replay kar sakain.
Khuda aap ko aur huamian hidayat pay chalanay ke toufeeq day.
Acha mashwara hay, aap ka laikin khali kitabon ko parhnay say kya ho ga, kuch aqal bhi istamal karni paray geeeeee.
aur rahi baat kah kuch mukhtasir sa stuff nikal kar ussay samnay rakh daina, to chacha ghalib jee main aap kay samnay kuch page rakhta hoon mirzaa qadiyani ki apni tahreeron kay phir aap mujhay uss ki logic samjha dijye ga. kah aisay fazool aur wahiyat ilfaz mirza qadiani nay apni tahreeron main istamal kiye hain, kah koi samjhdar shakhas ussay nabi to doooooooor ki baat aik sharief isnan bhi samjh sakta.
agar aap chahtay hain to main aap ko paish karon ga uss ki (Mirza Qadiani) tahreerain aur Inshallah context kay saath paish karon gay.
Hay aap main hosla kay aap mirza kay haq main koi replay kar sakain.
Khuda aap ko aur huamian hidayat pay chalanay ke toufeeq day.
Waiting for your reply
Rana Tipu
amazing!
luk at the origional post. the person who started this thread said they wanted information about ahmadis and so i have directed you to a site where you can get the information you require. i neva told you to not use your aqal.
I will not be drawn into a debate here because i see no benefit wotsoever coming out of it. I have seen threads where such debates turn into a war of arguments and people argue endlessly just for the sake of defeating the other person. I will just say a couple of general things.
No one is going to be answerable before Allah on anyone else's behalf. One should keep this in mind. The Holy Prophet (saw) fortold the coming of the Mahadi and the Messiah. We believe that this person has come. It is an obligation for every muslim to investigate his claim. If after a sinceare investigation, while having been praying to Allah for guidance, one finds that this is not the person fortold to come, then it is a matter between him/her and Allah. Allah alone knows wots in the hearts, and He can best judge whether you made the decision sincearly or otherwise.
*]When the first Caliph in Ahmadiyyat was going for hajj long before the establishment of the movement, he was told the following by his teacher: **Khuda naaN banana aur rasool naaN banana. **He asked the teacher wot he meant. The teacher replied Khuda Ta'ala does what he wants and he is not answerable to anyone. And Rasools have no choice but to deliver their messege and since they have been appointed by Allah, not believing them causes His displeasure and the disbelievers are punished. But if someone doesn't believe your fatwa or disagrees with you, it doesn't necessarily mean he/she will be punished. What i am trying to get at is that all these fatawa-e-kufr don't necesserly mean a ticket to hell. It is quiet understandable if a person thinks that the holder of a certain belief can't be muslim in that person's eyes but to actually think that it is God's decision is wrong. This is so because quiet a few prominant muslim ulemaa of the old times were called kafirs by their contemporaries.
I answered this somwot in my previous post. Prophets are an exception because they have been appointed by Allah and therefore denying their truth is denying Allah.
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luk at the origional post. the person who started this thread said they wanted information about ahmadis and so i have directed you to a site where you can get the information you require. i neva told you to not use your aqal.
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yahan paay aap kahatay hain kah kah
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i neva told you to not use your aqal.
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aur pichli site main jahan aap nay aik site ka referenc diya hay wahan aap kahtay hain
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You can't find out the Ahmadiyaa views by reading the books of our opponents because they pick and choose the stuff that suits them. Its like asking abu jahal about the views of the muslims.
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yahan pay aap un logon ko jo qadiyaniat ka true chehra dekha rahay hain unahin ABU JAHAL say tashbeeh day rahay hain.
Kissi aik baat pay to Aaien
aur rahi baat with context ki ya without context ki to main aap say pehlay bhi kah chuka hoon kah Main Inshalllah Context aur reference ko lay kay he chalon ga. INSHALLAH
For images of orginal qadiyani books please wait for some days till i get my web site uploaded or if you are in karachi PM me your contact No. i inshallah will reply you back with in a week.
aur rahi baat books ki wasiay to mirzq qadinai ki taqreeban saari books un ki apni site pay mojood hain, laiakin iss kay ilawa kuch book in kay apnay seniors ki aisee bhi hain jin main tahreerain kuch aisee hain kah jiss ka jawab aaj tak koi qadiani nahin day pata, aur inhi tahreeron ke wajah say un pay kufar kay fatway tak lagay hain, yeh books in logon ( Qadianion) nay market say ghaib kar dee hain., laaikin aaj kal aik forum www.ahemdi.org kay urdu forum main kaafi sari available hain. aap wahan say download kar saktay hain, NAYAB BOOKS hain aur hain bhi Mirza qadiani kay baiton aur collegues ke hain.
Aur baqi Qadinaiyat kay mutaliq Mutaliq mukhtalif ulma kay tabsaray aur books aap ko khatum e nabuwat pay mill jain geee. Aur Inshallah Qadianiat ka asli aur MAKROOH chehra aap kay samnay lanay main madad dain geeeee, INSHALLAH:grumpy:
