I think this particular fashion show is a poor representation of what is Pakistani culture. Even if Pakistani culture is quite removed from Islamic values, still we don't need to approve of such blantant nakedness and, I personally feel, quite sad commentary on such a fine institution as NCA.
Agreed.
Each person has a right to strip bare or to dress 'modestly' according to their own beliefs, but from what I have seen in karachi/Lahore elitist circles -- this is more to do with rebellion and trying to ape the West.
It is far from art.
This kind of thing would be also be vehemently argued against by liberal feminists who stand up against Western beauty pageants.
Even in the US there is a rising but small movement amongst christians and even non-christian communities to try and curb this culture where girls as young as 11 are wearing thongs and hipsters, thinking it is a fashion statement.
I dont see how showing off what is sexually attractive to the opposite sex (or even to the same) is 'art'. What kind of self-esteem does a woman have if she needs to show off her cleavage in Lahore?
It takes more artistic talent to make a woman look awe-inspiring in a vintage 17th century velvet gharara worked in rare gold thread and precious stones, without showing off her mammary glands.
I am waiting for the day when we see men parading in thongs because it is an expression of art.
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...like i know a friend who has seen some photo sessions of some models...in which the girls even go topless...
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You have to be kidding.
On second thoughts...I find it believable.
I read an article in 'Fashion' mag (published in pak) in '97 where an undercover journalist hung out with upper class students from Greenwich, IBA and other art schools in karachi and lahore, to get a glimpse of their social life.
One group study session turned into group sex party...several boys and girls. Drinking..drugs etc.
He wrote an interesting piece on wives of expatriate workers in karachi. The women would rent rooms in hotels to spend soem time with lovers because their husbands were so often away in the middleast etc makng a living. Older women seeking young men.
Not only is this a trend present in split families but in upper class muslim families. Abortion clinics are on the rise as well. Dont recall the statistics but they have shot up dramatically.
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I dont see how showing off what is sexually attractive to the opposite sex (or even to the same) is 'art'. What kind of self-esteem does a woman have if she needs to show off her cleavage in Lahore?
It takes more artistic talent to make a woman look awe-inspiring in a vintage 17th century velvet gharara worked in rare gold thread and precious stones, without showing off her mammary glands.
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custardeclair, very well said in a blatantly bold manner. Lahore has been known for quite a while for making morally-challenging inappropriate statements in one way or another from time to time. The only difference now is the brush~stroke effect the western media has etched on the minds of people, leaving them to argue all legal in the name of depiction of art through all forms of media accessble to them. From producing great scholars like Iqbal who believed in and fought for the ultimate freedom of a human mind to people wanting to leave a mark on this world with the ultimate most open demonstration of their bodies is the greatest loss of the essence of Lahore, its true culture and what it was really meant to be.
Art is provocative. It makes you think. Whether youlike it or not. The designs made you think and put up a 4 page thread. Good job by the designers and better job by the chicks.
And in fashion and design, most runway shows don't catch your eye if they contain clothes made pret-a-porte. It is the outlandish and the cutting edge that draws the raves or boos. You canconsider this as that emotion inspiring from the lahorias.
Yayy to the liberation of women in our country. What i find disgusting is that due to the crap being fed to these gullible pakistanis they actually believe this is an improvement or an advancement.
I think this country is slowly loosing its identity completely. All of it is borrowed dirty filthy culture. But i dont blame nca for hosting a fashion show such as this. When our entire nation can sit in their homes and watch movies and shows which contain the same kind of clothing if not worse, then there is no blame on these artists for harvesting the same kind of art in our country.
Disgusting.. absolutely disgusting. I wish they would change the name of the country to something other than the islamic republic of pakistan.
Critizing the reveling dress is justified, afterall we live in a ISLAMIC republic, and our people have sacrifised ALOT for this homeland. Just for a fashion show we should not throw our hard earned and deep rooted values out the windows. *THe beauty of our culture lies in islam and modesty. * JUst look at islamic archeticture.
The fact is that the government is not supporting our fashion industry. If it did, it could represent our culture abroad. THe industry had went underground, which means it is unchecked, and more more of these dresses are seen. If the govt supports the industry, it could regualate it and put certain guidance, while providing it for a platform to flourish. I belive that dreses like these should not be "modeled". why can't they just put it on a hanger, and show of their creation??
I dont' care if the Islamic republic of PAKISTAN is not true to ist's name or whatever, the fact is that we live in society where most ppl are muslim. A muslim's society is not built on individualism.. You can't do whatever, and say you shouldn't be responsible.
TOBAH TOBAH :nono: