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It's 1-1. Good team defense and better play by Kidd and Nets bench. Going to games 4 & 5, can't wait. ........

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*Originally posted by Asif_k: *
Where was Deke Mutombo ?? He was supposed to guard David Robinson ?? NETS will lose this series 4-0, If they continue playing 3rd class players like Jason Collins and Aaron Williams.
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As you were saying. ;)

Game 2 - NETS vs SPURS

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New Jersey Nets guard Jason Kidd grimaces after falling to the floor but ended up with a reason to smile as NETS won Game 2 by 87-85 against SPURS

The SPURS rallied to within one point of New Jersey on a Stephen Jackson trey with 9.9 seconds left, but they would get no closer in an 87-85 defeat in Game 2 on Friday. Tony Parker tallied 21 pts and Tim Duncan finished with 19 pts, 12 rebounds and three blocks.

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Tim Duncan reacts after missing a crucial FT.

Pathetic ball game by SPURS. They turned over the ball 22 times in the NBA Finals!!! Don't even talk about horrible FTs(2/9) shooting by T.D, which has been his major problem throughout the season! During the 20 sec TO, TV Coverage were showing Duncan practicing FTs before the game; and he couldn't get it at all. I reckon, there's some "Luck Factor" involved for SPURS to be in the NBA Finals 'cause the teams they eliminated in the playoffs, SUNS, LAKERS and MAVERICKS had injuried players at the crucial time. No offense, SPURS is a wonderful Basketball club but they haven't been able to recovered from the mistakes they made in the playoffs; and continue to making it, which in result, costing them BIG PRICE!

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About time, learn something from Kidd - Tim Duncan

If you take a look at NETS, they don't have their key players in serious health trouble, thankfully. Also, last time they were just happy to be in the NBA Finals. This time they believe they can win the Championship. When you believe in something, you can do whatever you it. Climbed the whole damn mountain or crossed the oceans, you name it!

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Battle for control of the Ball - Tim Duncan and Kenyon Martin.

NETS had a great defensive ball game stragedy against MVP Tim Duncan. First, they put K-Mart against T.D. When he got in foul trouble, Jason Collins and Dikembe Mutombo took charge and never let T.D to take command, however, there was no defence for players Stephen Jackson and Manu Ginobili from NETS. Manu had a bad game whereas Jackson with his four 3-pt baskets made the ball game even more intense! Had the last 3-pt attempt by Stephen Jackson, at the closing moment, went through the basket, SPURS would had won the game by one 1 pt but Ooo Oooo, too late, NETS survived the game. That counts!

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New Jersey Nets guard Jason Kidd, right, dribbles around San Antonio Spurs guard Tony Parker, left.

In the 2nd half, NETS looked totally different team to me. Parker was outclassed by the Kidd through out the ball game. He wasn't even close to guard him. Gregg Popovich tired Bowen and Ginobili against Kidd. It DID NOT work out. Kidd caught more fired up as he scored his best career-playoff high 30 pts against SPURS. No More Kidding from Jason Kidd. Assisting Rogers and Harris, who contributed 20 pts from the NETS' bench, outscoring SPURS' bench with only 12 pts. Kenyon Martin and Kerry Kittles added 14 and 7 pts. NETS took twice as much as offensive rebs than SPURS; and able to pulled the game as the Best of Seven-Game series is now Dead Even!

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New Jersey Nets forward Kenyon Martin, center, hugs guard Jason Kidd, right. Kerry Kittle on left.

NETS, definitely, is feeling more confident about tonight's win. Even though, they lost the track a lil bit in the 4th qtr with a 15-4 run of SPURS but they still able to win the game. That's all matters. NETS' first win of the NBA Finals. SMILE

Dikembe Mutombo will definitely be playing more time on the court in the upcoming games. He scored his second basket of the game; and gave New Jersey a 28-26 lead in the 2nd qtr which they never lost. WOW! Talk about this kind of Confidence!

Game 3 is on Sunday as the series heads back to New Jersey.

  • NBA Finals 2003

New Jersey NETS vs San Antonio SPURS - Series tied 1-1.

As Byron Scott mentioned in the begining of the game, they failed to be agressive against Tim Duncan in Game 1, but last night thats exactly what they did, they kept attacking him and the result went their way.

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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
As you were saying.

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If your forgot to read properly..I said Deke Mutombo is the key and he was the one (and not over rated Jason Kidd) helped New Jersey win.

Go find out how many minutes he played in the first game and how many in the second.

ASif, did you watch the game at all? You are telling me that Deke was respnsible for Nets win but not Kidd. Are you completely deranged? deke got the airtime afer the game because of the high profile matchups. Same can be said for Martin who guarded Duncan for most of the game.

Are you kidding me:eek: :eek:

Did you watch the game. Or were you just reading reports just like every other time.

If you didn’t see Jason Kidd play, then you missed a treat.

If Jason Kidd was so over rated, why has he taken his team to the finals 2 years in a row. I consider Jason Kidd as probably the best allround player in NBA after Duncan.



Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts  
 R. Jefferson  39 3-10 0-0 2-2 1 3 3 3 2 0 3 8  

 K. Martin  33 6-16 0-0 2-2 3 5 4 1 2 2 5 14  

 J. Collins  34 3-6 0-1 0-0 1 4 1 1 1 0 2 6  

** J. Kidd  42 11-24 2-4 6-8 4 7 3 4 0 0 1 30**  

 K. Kittles  21 3-7 1-2 1-2 1 4 1 1 3 0 1 8  

 L. Harris  27 5-8 0-1 0-0 2 7 1 1 1 0 1 10  

 R. Rogers  18 2-8 1-3 2-2 2 5 2 1 0 0 4 7  

 A. Johnson  6 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0  

** D. Mutombo  20 2-3 0-0 0-0 1 4 0 0 0 3 3 4 ** 

 A. Williams  DNP - Coach's Decision 


i have to post with a sad heart that the NETS lost again.

Great game, all credits go out to Tony Parker for another amazing performance, he was amazing today.
Malik Rose also did well and Tim Duncan always doing his best.

Once again Nets fail when Kidd fails, unlike Spurs, they need a backup player like Tony Parker, guys like Kenyon Martin, Kerry Kittles need to step up a notch if they are going to win another game.

**Game 3 - NETS vs SPURS

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Tim Duncan had a good 'Defence' for Jason Kidd in Game 3.**

Gotcha SPURS?

Oh boy, this has to be the 'Most Slowest Scoring Game Ever' Turnovers, missed opportunities from both sides as they scored below 35 pts at the half time, duh! Bill Walton had a good reason to say:- 'It was a Defensive ball game from both sides' Yeah, but still it was boring.

Good performance at the half time by JEWEL. Certainly helped my mood to watched the whole game. :-D Lalala Lalala Lalala.... Follow your heart, your Intuition. It'll lead ya in the right direction.... Lalal Lalala Lalala :~)

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San Antonio Spurs' Tony Parker (9) goes up for two against the defense of New Jersey Nets' Dikembe Mutombo

Tony Parker stole the show in the 2nd half. It was like watching the same performance as I did in the regular season and playoffs this year. Once, he gets started, SPURS offensive ball game rolls. The SPURS had more turnovers in the first half than NETS, which Parker and SPURS changed the whole scene by shooting 58% from the field in the fourth qtr alone! Parker was awesome, even Dikembe Mutombo couldn't stop him from penerating inside the paint. Also, Parker didn't guard Kidd as much as he did in previous two games. He just passed over the ball to either TD or Jackson. Kidd was most of the time, defended by Duncan and Bowen. It saved alot of energy for Parker, though, he admitted after the game, he was tired. Feeling tired in the NBA Finals? What a liar!

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San Antonio Spurs' Tim Duncan (21) celebrates with teammate Malik Rose as SPURS won Game 3. New Jersey Nets' Jason Kidd, rear left, looks. SPURS' Tony Parker is at right

Had it not been Parker, SPURS would have lost the game with the same repeat mistakes they did in Game 2. Free Throws were still a problem for them as well Turnovers, but thanks to Parker, Jackson and Ginobilli, they pulled the Game in favor of SPURS.

NETS double team Tim Duncan. Result? Stephen Jackson, Tony Parker got wide open shots; and coverted them into treys. Tony Parker scored 11 of his team-high 26 pts in the fourth qtr as the SPURS defeated the NETS 84-79 Sunday to take a 2-1 lead in NBA Finals 2003. Tim Duncan added 21 pts and 16 rebounds. The last reb picked up by Timmy in the closing moment of the ball game, was unbelieveable. 16 rebs for the game.

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Battle for the Ball - Tim Duncan and Jason Kidd.

The defence against Jason Kidd helped SPURS ALOT. Once Kidd gets goin', it's almost impossible to stop him from assisting his team-mates, picking up rebs, but, it wasn't good night for Jason Kidd. He was same from the field as he was in Game 1, struggled throughout the game. Just 10 pts for him. SPURS knew precisely what to do against Jason Kidd, which is why Kidd shot and moved the ball from the perimeter than taking into the inside paint area.

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San Antonio Spurs' Tony Parker, passes off the ball in front of New Jersey Nets' Jason Kidd.

Slam Dunk of the Night? It has got be Malik Rose's slam dunk over Dikembe Mutombo. How did the 6'5 Rose dunked over 7 footer Mutombo? I'm still tryin' to figure out........... Rose sparked in the fourth qtr as well; and scored 6 pts for San Antonio.

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New Jersey Nets' Kenyon Martin, center, and Jason Kidd, right, sit on the bench. Anthony Johnson, left, hide his face with a sweat towel :-P

NETS fell apart in the late fourth qtr, though, 2nd qtr cost them most, when they shot only 35% from the field and had only 9 pts in 12 mins. Down 11 at one point in the final period, after leading with 3 pts, the NETS cut the lead to two but could not get any closer. Kenyon Martin had 23 pts, game-high for NETS, though, he had foul troubles. Kerry Kittles, who has been quite in this series, fired up with his treys and was in double-figure. Only NETS player, who played offensive ball game. Foul troubles(Jason Collins fouled out, K-Mart 5 fouls; 3 fouls on Dikembe Mutombo) and Turnovers(3rd and 4th qtr) killed NETS. Richard Jefferson was way out of his form. It made me amused for a moment when the ball shot by RJ, stuck at the side of the rim.

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New Jersey Nets' Kerry Kittles reacts after missing a 2-pt bucket at the closing moment of Game 3.

Now, the NETS gotta take care of the business in Game 4, which will be on Wednesday. Very crucial and important game for NETS! Knowing SPURS has been a good team on the road throughout the regular season and playoffs, it's about time to plan the game as they did in Game 2, set stragedies as they did in Game2; and avoid as much as gettin' into the foul trouble, which they really need to do it. Be mental not physical.

  • NBA Finals 2003

  • New Jersey NETS vs San Antonio SPURS - SPURS lead 2-1.

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*Originally posted by Matsui: *
ASif, did you watch the game at all? You are telling me that Deke was respnsible for Nets win but not Kidd. Are you completely deranged? deke got the airtime afer the game because of the high profile matchups. Same can be said for Martin who guarded Duncan for most of the game.
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Matsui - If Deke was there because of high profile match up then why wasn't he there in the first game, why only first game ?? Did you notice the minuts of Aaron Williams and Jason Collings in the second game compared to the first game ?? K Martin can't stop duncan - The only way he knows to stop Duncan is to foul him. In all the 3 games he has played he is in foul trouble and that adds to the pressure on NETS in the 4th quater.

For example - yesterday (3rd game). In the fourth quarter after Malik Rose's dunk over Deke, Martin couldn't even defend Rose properly because he could have been fouled out and that was the turning point of the 3rd game.

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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
If Jason Kidd was so over rated, why has he taken his team to the finals 2 years in a row. I consider Jason Kidd as probably the best allround player in NBA after Duncan.

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Umair316 - Dont give me the Bullsh!t about who scored how many points. Deke is a defensive player, scoring is not his job, defense is. I saw Kidd play in 1st match also - 4/17 (Wow really MVP performance) and again yesteday 6/19 - Really cool performance when the NJ nets needed him most.

Jason Kidd's 30 in second game would have meant nothing had Stephen Jackson sunk the last 3 ptr. If you didn't know Deke Mutombo has been 4 time defensive player of the year and is being paid $17m per year by the nets. Go and check why ?

And please dont give me this crap about Jason Kidd leading NETS to the finals. NETS wont even make to playoffs If they remove this entire quota system. Compare Kidd Vs. Tony Parker and tell me who is the better player in the NBA finals so far ?

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*Originally posted by Asif_k: *

Umair316 - Dont give me the Bullsh!t about who scored how many points. Deke is a defensive player, scoring is not his job, defense is. I saw Kidd play in 1st match also - 4/17 (Wow really MVP performance) and again yesteday 6/19 - Really cool performance when the NJ nets needed him most.
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Yeah looking at game 2, look at the rebounding game Kidd had, he had more rebounds than Mutombo, concerning Mutombo is defensive player. Nobody is talking about points here, Jason Kidd in Game 2 showed an allround performance, as an offensive and a defensive player.
It look like you had to wait till Game 3 to reply to your nonsense theory.
Would you want to explain the fact that Tim Duncan also scored 10 points in Game 2 and Spurs lost that game (WOW, really MVP performance), and his repeated failiures at the free throw line and numerous turnouver which caused Nets a victory in game 2. (Note that I am not undermining a great player like Duncan)

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Jason Kidd's 30 in second game would have meant nothing had Stephen Jackson sunk the last 3 ptr. If you didn't know Deke Mutombo has been 4 time defensive player of the year and is being paid $17m per year by the nets. Go and check why ?
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Really?
Tony Parker, TIM Duncan and Malik Rose's amazing display would have meant nothing had Kittles not missed 2 three pointers in the end of game 3.
What nonsense is this?

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And please dont give me this crap about Jason Kidd leading NETS to the finals. NETS wont even make to playoffs If they remove this entire quota system. Compare Kidd Vs. Tony Parker and tell me who is the better player in the NBA finals so far ?
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Would you care to know that Tony Parker is still a rookie and he has a long way to go to even be as good as Jason Kidd, playing 1 or 2 good games doesn't make you better then already the best.
While Jason Kidd has led his team to the championship twice.
Don't get me wrong, Parker is immensly talented but no where as good as Kidd permanently.

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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
Yeah looking at game 2, look at the rebounding game Kidd had, he had more rebounds than Mutombo, concerning Mutombo is defensive player. Nobody is talking about points here, Jason Kidd in Game 2 showed an allround performance, as an offensive and a defensive player.
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You are the one who is talking about points here, check your last post where you Printed the Numbers. You clearly have no understanding of the game - That's why you keep talking in Number of rebounds, No. of Points - the only reason Kidd was able to put up so many numbers in the second game was because of Deke was such a help at the offensive end as well. Bruce Bowen has 0 points yesterday - but as anyone who has little understanding of the game and he will tell you how good and important his defense was to Net's win.

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It look like you had to wait till Game 3 to reply to your nonsense theory.
Would you want to explain the fact that Tim Duncan also scored 10 points in Game 2 and Spurs lost that game (WOW, really MVP performance), and ** his repeated failiures at the free throw line and numerous turnouver which caused Nets a victory in game 2. **
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You said it yourself - So Nets won because of Duncan's poor performance and not because of Kidd's game. Thank You.

About waiting for game 3 to reply to your post - Check the date of your last post (You posted it today) that's why the reply is today. I called Kidd an over-rated player after Game 2 itself. About Duncan's point in Game 2 - You must have been blind to notice that Tim Duncan scored 10 points in game 2. In Game 2 Tim Duncan Scored ored 19 points, 3 blocks, 3 Assists and 12 defensive and 2 offensice rebounds. If that's a bad performance despite having an off day and being double triple teamed then I dont know what is a good performance

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While Jason Kidd has led his team to the championship twice.

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Kid led to the Championship ??? He led to the Finals not the Championship.
I know Tony Parker is still a rookie and almost half the size of Kidd but look at the performance...Parker is clearly the better performer than Kidd in Last 3 games. Permanently good ?? my foot. Who cares ? I see him manhandled by a rookie and you call him permanently good ?? Ever Watched Jason Kidd perform in Phoenix If he was so good then why he didn't take Suns to the NBA finals. NETS are in the Finals only because they are in the east Coast. Remove the quota system and NETS will struggle to make play offs.

Kidd has got only 7 games in the finals and he has already failed in 2 of them, another 2 games he fails and Tony parker, the Rookie, will have a ring and Jason Kidd (probably )would end up taking Parker's job at SA in search of a ring.

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*Originally posted by Asif_k: *

You are the one who is talking about points here, check your last post where you Printed the Numbers. You clearly have no understanding of the game - That's why you keep talking in Number of rebounds, No. of Points - the only reason Kidd was able to put up so many numbers in the second game was because of Deke was such a help at the offensive end as well. Bruce Bowen has 0 points yesterday - but as anyone who has little understanding of the game and he will tell you how good and important his defense was to Net's win.
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Not only I highlighted the points scored but also number of rebounds Kidds had in Game 2, how many?
7
How many Rebounds did Mutombo had?
4

Not only I mentioned that Kidd is a better offensive player but he can be as good as in defensive. Thats why he is a better allround player in the NBA.

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You said it yourself - So Nets won because of Duncan's poor performance and not because of Kidd's game. Thank You.
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No! Because of Both, maybe you are dislexic and you can't read properly, stop trying to twist the facts.
Nets victory in Game 2 was because of Kidd's awesome performance and Tim Duncan's poor show.
Vise Versa in game 1 and 3.

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In Game 2 Tim Duncan Scored ored 19 points, 3 blocks, 3 Assists and 12 defensive and 2 offensice rebounds. If that's a bad performance despite having an off day and being double triple teamed then I dont know what is a good performance
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Compare TDs figures from Game 1 & 3 to Game 2.

Here is Duncan's performance from Game 1 in which Spurs won.



Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts  
44 11-17 0-0 10-14 3 20 6 1 3 7 1 32  


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Game 3



Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
45 6-13 0-0 9-12 3 16 7 5 1 3 3 21  


Now compare those figures with game 2.
It was a pretty ordinary performance from TD as compared to his usual very good showing on the court.
About being triple teamed, I can't deny the fact that he is a great player regardless of what form he is in, he will always be triple or quatruple teamed because he is such a good player.

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Kid led to the Championship ??? He led to the Finals not the Championship.
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Thats alot better showing then other teams from the east, concerning you have players like McGrady, Carter and co who have never led their team to the finals.

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I know Tony Parker is still a rookie and almost half the size of Kidd but look at the performance...Parker is clearly the better performer than Kidd in Last 3 games. Permanently good ?? my foot. Who cares ? I see him manhandled by a rookie and you call him permanently good ?? Ever Watched Jason Kidd perform in Phoenix If he was so good then why he didn't take Suns to the NBA finals. NETS are in the Finals only because they are in the east Coast. Remove the quota system and NETS will struggle to make play offs.

Kidd has got only 7 games in the finals and he has already failed in 2 of them, another 2 games he fails and Tony parker, the Rookie, will have a ring and Jason Kidd (probably )would end up taking Parker's job at SA in search of a ring.
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But you can't judge a player's class in just 2 or 3 games, no one is doubting Parker's ability as a very good basketball player, but looking the overall picture and overall playoff story, Kidd has lead his team from the front, while Parker has been a sidekick of Tim Duncan, it will be a lot different story when Parker is a start player and he has to lead the team from the front with all the pressure on him like Kidd has as of this moment.

About Kidd in Suns, I thought he did a very good job with his term with the SUns. Unfortunatly he didn't have good sidekicks like he does right now with Kenyon Martin and Kittles. Plus no doubt West is alot tougher then the east but to say Eastern conference is a kid's game then its wrong.

About him being traded to San Antonio, I doubt that will happen, Nets will come up with a better offer moneywise and he will stay.

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Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
Not only I highlighted the points scored but also number of rebounds Kidds had in Game 2, how many?
7How many Rebounds did Mutombo had?4*

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So it was you who was talking about points and numbers not me. Anyways while we are at this number game - Did you also check how many blocks Mutombo and Kidd both had in game 2 ?? Kidd played 42 minutes and had 7 defensive rebs and 1 off reb. Deke played 20 mins and had 4 def rebound, 1 off reb, 3 blocks..really poor :)
I seriously doubt your understanding of game.

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No! Because of Both, maybe you are dislexic and you can't read properly, stop trying to twist the facts.
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Stop calling names and accusing me of twisting facts and accept what you said. You are the one who tried to lie about TD's figure by telling that he scored only 10 points in game 2. You didn't say 'BOTH' here is what you said :- "Would you want to explain the fact that Tim Duncan also scored 10 points in Game 2 and Spurs lost that game (WOW, really MVP performance), and **his repeated failiures at the free throw line and numerous turnouver which caused Nets a victory in game 2. *(Note that I am not undermining a great player like Duncan)*"

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Compare TDs figures from Game 1 & 3 to Game 2.

It was a pretty ordinary performance from TD as compared to his usual very good showing on the court.
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why dont you compare Kidd's performance in game 1,2, and 3 and tell us how good he was in the 1st and 3rd game ?? Tim Duncan's performance was pretty good in the second game except the missed free thtows. Actually If you compare his game 2 and game 3 performance, then there isn't much difference in his performance.



PLAYER    POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 
T. Duncan  F  44  11-17 0-0   10-14 3   20  6   3   7   1  1  32 
T. Duncan  F  43  8-19  0-1   3-10  2   12  3   0   3   4  3  19 
T. Duncan  F  45  6-13  0-0   9-12  3   16  7   1   3   5  3  21 


Compare that to Kidd's performance in last 3 games and tell us who is more consistent. Compare Kidd's performance to Tony Parker also and tell us who is more consistent.

I am not judging Kidd on the basis of just one performance. I think he is highly over rated, in the west coast there are players who put up better numbers than him day in and day out and dont get that much attention. As for you telling me that Kidd is the second best over all player in the NBA after TD. Really ?? Ever heard the name Kevin G or from Twolves or Allen I from 76ers ???

Kidd is a good player but highly over rated.

Asif: The Nets lost the last game. SA wasn't all that impressive. From the beginning I was talking about the defense int eh east. It seems that good defense has made this wishful superiority of the western conf go away. Tim duncan was mediocre yesterday, like Kidd. martin outplayed Duncan, does that mean that he is better than duncan? or that duncan shouldn;'t be the MVP.

It is a far easier position from which to get an MVP when you are forward or a center. You are fed the ball, you hardly ever create, and you are bailed out by the spot up guys on double teams.

try running an entire offense. Rebounding, passing and scoring.by creating your own shot Also the intangibles as to slowing or speeding up the game. It is infinitely the hardest position in Basketball.

THis is the most boring series i have seen since Knickerbockers vs Rockets.

Matsui - your logic is absurd, If you are really good, you will win the MVP. Allen Iverson is neither a forward nor a Center, He still won the MVP. The point is Kidd is not good enough to win the MVP. He is highly overrated. Yes PG is the hardest position, but it's hard for every PG not just Jason Kidd. Look at Tony Parker the rookie and a Point Guard, how he has performed against the the so called second best defensive team of NBA. and now compare that to the performance of Experienced Kidd.

If nets lost the last game, It would also be correct to say that Spurs lost the second game rather than NETS winning it. It's funny that you compare Kidd and Duncan's performance. Have you noticed the difference in Kidd and Duncan's performance ?? Even though Duncan's performance is below his high standards, he is still the best overall performer for his team he is still putting up huge numbers on the board as opposed to Kidd's 4 and 10. Kenyon Martin can't guard Duncan and he was in foul trouble in all the three games. Did you miss that crucial offensive rebound that Duncan Grabbed right under the nose of Martin ?

Well said! :k: :k:
Its alot tougher for Kidd then it is for Duncan, TD always has someone to make way for him so he can go in and score his points while Kidd has to do the hardwork for himself.

Asif_k, its useless arguing with you, you simply don’t get it. :smack: