It not just the external factors, Ishaq Dar has successfully reduced Nawaz Sharif's status all the way down to a lame duck's level. All major power making decisions and influence lies with Dar. NS has no sense of authority, leadership and vision neither for his party nor the country.
Sharif family has no mythical charm, no sense of tragedy and power of any ideology and struggles people associate with Bhutto dynasty. If the power lust gets really bad in the party - they can be easily be taken over. Most Noon League ministers see themselves perfectly capable of CM/PM spot than bow down to Maryam Nawaz or Hamza.
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See here u missed thing or two...most of these existing Ch Nisar, khawajah asif tyoe know theit fate.. Kinds of Ahsan Iqbal already aligning himself...Father of Abif Sher Ali is making his own efforts to be recognized at national Sale offer...so his family remains in power corridors...
Things are not black & white, there is some hope, but Ch. Nisar sees himself as a strong contender because of his relationship with army....
Khosaas or Lagharies always fall for their personal interests and/or to highest bidder...
Ranas of Faisalabad are under fire..
New leadership aka change of face is call of hour...
Nawaz Sharif knows Musharraf in BB's case or any other case isn't going down. In both cases Pandora box will be opened which will take down half of PPP and good half of PMLN. But he's desperately trying to put him on hold so he doesn't enter politics. Not that he stands a big chance, but he'll certainly add to the competition.
In case of Rana Sanaullah, PMLN has created a Frankenstein monster. Even if they want, they cannot get rid of him because it will put too many of their people's lives at risk. He's the mother of all blackmailers in PMLN. We will never find out the full truth about Rana Sanaullah's hand behind Col. Khanzada's murder.
Ch. Nisar, Kh. Asif, Saad Rafiq, Ahson Iqbal would do anything for CM Punjab's post, while Dar thinks he's all set to be the next PM, Ch Nisar might be his only nemesis in that race. All these ministers have their own army of sidekicks and support network in bureaucracy, civil services, police and media.
Khosas and Lagharis, and revived PMLQ is enough to break their vote bank in semi rural districts to favour a third party.
All in all, Sharif brothers are increasingly getting toothless and irrelevant in their own party. The more unpopular these brothers get with public, the more their ministers grow in their ambitions to grab power. These ministers are watching the way PPP big guns are suffering due to Zardari. They wouldn't want to be in that position.
Sharif family is still stuck in 90s, they don't want to realise just how much Pakisan's politics has changed. They'll eventually get tired of pumping money into everything to buy fake support.
That seems like more of a wish at this stage tbh, they are not that irrelevant..
They are still incharge of affairs...and they have far more control on PMLN than IK on KPK or Punjab chapters...
These power struggle is part of politics, dont start celebrating demise of Sharifs that soon
There is no evidence that Ch. Sarwar caused any damage to the country or its people while he was in PMLN's camp for a brief period. So please stop putting this idea across that somehow he deserves to be thrashed just because of his mere association with PMLN. SMQ is a different case.
Early PPP also became a quintessential umbrella group that ended up absorbing people from across the board. Imran could have broken the backs of both PPP and PMLN by accepting every single member who wanted to jump the sinking ship at the peak of his dharna!
He can't find saints and angels, but least he can do is just not accept people with criminal records.
Decriminalisation of Pakistani politics is far more important and realistic goal than finding prophet like politicians.
Read again, all I said was if he calls them dogs today, keep in mind there is a good chance they will join the party he so vehemently defends. Ch. Sarwar was one example (and I never said he caused destruction), he was called 'sharaab bechney walla bootlicker of NS brothers whose son was jailed for 7 years in glasgow for money laundering' at the time of his appointment by no one other than the PTI supporters and supposedly the rumor was unearthed by the great detective Mubashir Luqman (who is known to be supportive of PTI) and did an entire show on him with details. What I suggested to monk would probably help PTI and it's fan base along with their credibility on a public forum :)
That seems like more of a wish at this stage tbh, they are not that irrelevant..
They are still incharge of affairs...and they have far more control on PMLN than IK on KPK or Punjab chapters...
These power struggle is part of politics, dont start celebrating demise of Sharifs that soon
So are these 'power struggles' are also part of politics when they happen in PTI! What do you think?
These Sharif brothers and their empire isn't crumbling down any soon - tragically sad for most Pakistanis, but relief for some.
Read again, all I said was if he calls them dogs today, keep in mind there is a good chance they will join the party he so vehemently defends. Ch. Sarwar was one example (and I never said he caused destruction), he was called 'sharaab bechney walla bootlicker of NS brothers whose son was jailed for 7 years in glasgow for money laundering' at the time of his appointment by no one other than the PTI supporters and supposedly the rumor was unearthed by the great detective Mubashir Luqman (who is known to be supportive of PTI) and did an entire show on him with details. What I suggested to monk would probably help PTI and it's fan base along with their credibility on a public forum :)
Moby is also responsible for spreading IK-Reham divorce rumours. He's an obnoxious sensationalist. Even if PTI supporters fell for his propaganda at that time, the way Ch. Sarwar conducted himself in PMLN camp, he gave none of those people any reason to mindlessly discredit him, and that's what matters. He said, she said talks can go on forever.
I think most PTIians are quite cleverly selective about the people they thrash from opposite camp. The type they often thrash are the types that won't join PTI in millions years. For example, there's a clear and visible difference between the attitude shown towards likes of Aitzaz Ahsan and Daniyal Aziz. :)
So are these 'power struggles' are also part of politics when they happen in PTI! What do you think?
These Sharif brothers and their empire isn't crumbling down any soon - tragically sad for most Pakistanis, but relief for some.
Sharifs have more control over party affairs then IK, who dont have a bit of idea how to begin with...
I didn't wanted to bring in, but do u have any idea how Aleem Khan got his ticket??? There are videos on net doing rounds where Aleem Khan is spitting venom..i leave it here...
The most important aspect in controlling party affair is having grip on financial affairs...sadly, IK is slave to it yet Sharif use to buy slaves.. A bullet proof prado and ride in personal jet is enough to buy Mr. Khan whereas, Sharifs gift it to their loyals...
Clearly IK could have refused plane ride and have settled for his own vehicle would have made him independent but taste of money and habit of jet rides can take over anyone...
So yeah, the power struggles in PTI and PMLN is very different..even justice Wajih agrees with me...mind reading his report..
And see who are the culprits and why Justice was fired abd culprits still there..prado and plane is the hint
^ Do you know have how immature and petty you sound when you keep complaining about IK's plane rides? The drama you create is as if he uses KPK helicopters for personal pleasure like Sharif family. Jealousy ridden gossiping.
As with this question of 'why can't he use his own ride', if the wannabe superman wants to hold two three jalsas in a day, I'm pretty sure he'll like to avail the best resources available. The plane he rides belongs to JTK's company and PTI pays him for fuel charges. But that's their own internal party logistic. You cannot fatwafy Imran's use of JKT's plane because this is not government's resource or coming out of taxpayers' money.
You can have all the issues with IK's policies, but you really insult your own intellect and a Pakistani who after experiencing absolute heights of success, global fame and achievements and 20 years of struggle in politics would have himself 'sold' out for a bloody plane ride! As if he could have none of that or even better before.
Even his worst critics would not accuse IK of 'selling' himself for material goods even if they can write thesis on just how self destructive his policies can be. But PMLN supporters are just different breed all together.
I don't know how much you actually know of politics, but you ultimately need capital and resources to run political parties. Parties that can't do corruption like PMLN and PPP, run on wealthy party sponsors and friends to fund their parties. This is how Labour, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats sustain themselves.
Financially PTI is in much better position now than it was 7 years ago, hence it is doing a far better job with campaigning and running elections.
Sorry your definition of control is how Sharif brothers "own" the party like family enterprise, then yes, PTI needs none of that. Strong leadership will only emerge in PTI if Imran has less of that personal control, but more of structural party discipline.
Anyone who has ever worked in a large enough organisation would know that there are always groups/teams, professional rivalry and sense of competition when you have lots of interesting and strong characters in one place.
As long as PTI doesn't have target killers responsible killing their own party members or ministers who haven't spoken to each other in years. Bit of cold shoulders here and there is a non issue - worst things happen at Pakistanis weddings when the entire clan and family gets together, here we're talking about political party.
But yeah, its power struggles of politics when it comes to PMLN, but something more sinister, end of the world omen when it comes to PTI. Hypocrisy.
I wonder how many of you respected, supported and agreed with Justice Wajih when he used to praise PTI, now if his words on Aleem Khan is seen as epitomy of moral authority?