My comments: Yesterday in his speech to the Senate Prime Minister Gilani stated that those who had taken the memogate issue to the Supreme Court were conspiring against parliament, democracy even. In this video three senior Pakistani journalists - Mujeeb ur Rehman Shami, Arif Nizami and Sohail Warraich, some know for their pro PML N sympathies explain that Nawaz Sharif has gone back to courting the establishment for support.
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immposible now!
they got a fresh one:D:
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**PML-N may challenge presidency
**The opposition Pakistan Muslim League-N may challenge ‘suitability’ of Asif Ali Zardari to remain in the Presidency on health grounds and a process of consultation within the party has already started, sources told Dawn on Wednesday.
The option, according to the sources, had been discussed by some senior members of the party and any decision to that effect would be taken only after a complete homework and giving the government an ample time to take the nation into confidence about the nature of illness of the president, who is under treatment in Dubai.
“Yes, of course. If a person is not able to even travel to Pakistan how can he function as the country’s president,” said a senior PML-N member when asked if the party could go for a move to get President Zardari removed from the office on health ground.
Without elaborating, he said the party had been receiving various “conflicting and disturbing” reports about the health of President Zardari, who is also Co-Chairman of the Pakistan People’s Party. The PML-N leader said the political situation had become fluid and uncertain since the day Mr Zardari suddenly departed to Dubai under mysterious circumstances and such a situation for a longer period could be detrimental for the country, already facing multiple crises.
The first hint to the PML-N’s possible move came from Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan. He told reporters outside the Parliament House on Wednesday that he would raise the issue of the president’s health in the assembly meeting on Thursday.
Chaudhry Nisar said conflicting statements coming from the prime minister, presidential spokesman and a number of PPP leaders about the president’s health had created confusion and doubts in the minds of people. He accused the government of holding the media and the opposition responsible for the prevailing state of confusion.
The opposition leader said his party did not want to play up the issue of president’s health, but at the same time wanted to remove the confusion. “In every democratic country, it is the right of the people to know about the illness of their president or prime minister.”
He alleged that hiding facts from the people had become a habit of the government, be it May 2 US Abbottabad raid, terrorists’ attack on a naval base in Karachi or negotiations with the Taliban. When contacted, former Supreme Court judge Fakharuddin G. Ibrahim said only parliament had the powers to remove a president on health ground or for any other reason. “I don’t think so,” he said when asked if the Supreme Court could be moved to ascertain the health condition of the president and his eligibility to remain in the office.
Mr Ibrahim said any medical board to determine the health condition of a president could only be constituted by the parliament.
President Zardari’s sudden ailment and his choice of Dubai for treatment on Dec 6 has left political circles and general public guessing about his future and what will follow if he resigns as being speculated in some circles, particularly after the publication last week of an article by a credible US foreign policy website.
The country’s political history marred by frequent military interventions shows that Fazal Elahi Chaudhry was the only democratically-elected president who had completed his five-year term from August 14, 1973, to September 16, 1978.
Former presidents Ghulam Ishaq Khan, Farooq Leghari and Rafiq Tarar had to go home without completing their terms.
Although former president Gen Pervez Musharraf managed to complete his first five-year term with the help of the 17th Amendment which provided him indemnity for his unconstitutional acts, he could not complete his second term and had to resign on Aug 18, 2008, to evade a possible impeachment through parliament.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/15/pml-n-may-challenge-presidency.html
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Why is Pakistani politics like an Indian soap opera? Can't we have one week without drama? Seriously.
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The PML-N’s position is the strangest of all. On the one hand Nawaz Sharif talks of foiling conspiracies against democracy, on the other hand forgetting that if there is one Trojan horse that can breach the walls of democracy and bring the whole edifice down it is his petition about the memo in the Supreme Court. What exactly is the PML-N hoping to achieve? It would be fascinating to know the intellectual journey leading to the filing of this petition.
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PML N MNA Ayaz Amir**
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Too late for him...
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Read this all, There is something .
Ik is too changed today .
Military dictatorships destroyed Pakistan: Imran
However Najam Sethi already predicted some this sort statements from him a week ago.
عمران کانگریس سےحمایت لینےامریکاجائیں گے،نجم سیٹھی](http://urdu.thenewstribe.com/story/114250#.Tubhu7JU640)
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PML-N files another application before SC in Memogate case
Pakistan Muslim League- Nawaz (PML-N) on Friday has filed another application before the Supreme Court to make three other people party in Memogate case.
According to a private television channel, the three who were made party included Wajid Shamsul Hassan, Pak ambassador to UK, Shaheen Sehbai and Mohammad Malick. Shaheen Sehbai and Mohammad Malick both are the journalists.
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Media rule
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PML Nawaz now talking about getting Supreme Court to examine President Zardari’s state of health and whether Article 47 (1) can be invoked at some period.
47. Removal [or impeachment] of President.
(1) Notwithstanding anything contained in the Constitution,** the President may, in accordance with the provisions of this Article, be removed from office on the ground of physical or mental incapacity **or impeached on a charge of violating the Constitution or gross misconduct.
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^^^
I wonder if NS himself is mentally fit?
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^^^ I wonder if NS himself is mentally fit?
I don't think so. Why would a sane person trust Zardari so many times?
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Article 47 does not apply on me: Zardari
DUBAI/ISLAMABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari has said that he was absolutely at right but doctors were not giving him permission to travel. Talking to a senior journalist on Friday, the president asked how could Article 47 of the constitution be imposed on him, as he was absolutely fine. He said that if Article 47 was forcefully imposed on him, then he would reject it.
The president referred to talks of application of Article 47 of the constitution against him and asked how was it possible, who will constitute the medical board and how would it be formed. President Zardari said he was completely fine but his children were pressing him for complete treatment and for following the advice of doctors. He warned that if Article 47 was forcibly applied, the new manifesto would be “I don’t accept such constitution”. The president said as soon as doctors gave him a green signal, he would immediately return to Pakistan. The much talked about article 47(1) of the constitution lays down the conditions under which the president can be removed from office. Clause one of the Article 47 of the constitution says the president may, in accordance with the provisions of this Article, be removed from office on the ground of physical or mental incapacity or impeached on a charge of violating the constitution or gross misconduct. For this purpose, under the constitution not less than one-half of the total membership of either House may give to the speaker of the National Assembly or, as the case may be
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\12\17\story_17-12-2011_pg7_2
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Article 47 does not apply on me: Zardari
DUBAI/ISLAMABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari has said that he was absolutely at right but doctors were not giving him permission to travel. Talking to a senior journalist on Friday, the president asked how could Article 47 of the constitution be imposed on him, as he was absolutely fine. He said that if Article 47 was forcefully imposed on him, then he would reject it.
If he is/was absolutely all right and there is nothing wrong with him, then why the hell doctors are not allowing him to travel, he is not going to states or London, from UAE to Pakistan, (ISB) it is merely 3 hours flight and with the presidential protocol and luxuries of travel, he won't even notice how quickly these 3 hours went by...
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^ the reason is that no doctor is stopping him, he has fled (in laymen terms)...
he will return back once he has a guarantee that he wouldnt be implicated in the memogate scandal!
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^ the reason is that no doctor is stopping him, he has fled (in laymen terms)...
he will return back once he has a guarantee that he wouldnt be implicated in the memogate scandal!
I guess that was what in the 3 hours long meeting between PM and Kiyani is discussed, on the other hand, NS have filled petition to invoke Article 47 or 48 to remove President because he is not fit (mentally or physically) to run or represent the country...
Let us see how things turn.. if As per AAZ, Artlicel 47 or 48 does not apply on him then can he explain that what the hell is he doing in UAE?
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Another petition on Memogate submitted by PML Nawaz to the Supreme Court.
PML-N urges SC to summon Wajid
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz legislators Ishaq Dar and Khwaja Asif jointly filed a miscellaneous application in the Supreme Court on Friday, with a plea to summon Pakistan’s High Commissioner to United Kingdom Wajid Shamsul Hasan as well as two Pakistani journalists in the memogate case.
The petitioners claimed that during his interaction with foreign media, Wajid Shamsul Hassan had refused to rule out the possibility that Pakistani leadership, both civilian and military, might have been “aware beforehand” about the May 2 midnight operation in Abbottabad, in which the US killed al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden.
They prayed the SC to direct Ministry of Foreign Affairs to ensure the presence of Hassan in Pakistan as well as bar him from proceeding abroad unless exonerated by the SC or a commission of the apex court in the case. They further said that impression officially given out by the relevant civil authorities was that Pakistan knew nothing about the Abbottabad operation until after it had been actually accomplished.
The petitioners have also cited Muhammad Malik, editor of a national English daily, who had said that he had authored numerous informative reports on the memogate scandal, two of which he coauthored with Shaheen Sehbai.
The petitioners prayed the SC to summon Malik and Sehbai to assist the court in the matter. They said that at least two reports by Sehbai quoted Hassan’s interview with CNN, BBC and CDTV, in which he said that Pakistan had at least 8 to 10 days advance knowledge of the May 2 operation in Abbottabad. The application contends that the high commissioner had also claimed that Pakistan had helped the Americans identify Bin Laden’s location
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\12\17\story_17-12-2011_pg1_4
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At PPP parliamentary meeting a couple of days chaired by Bilawal PPP members were calling for Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry to be removed for entertaining the Memogate petitions, now we have this by sections of PPP supported media.
**“Pakistan’s elected parliament must remove Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry”
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http://criticalppp.com/archives/66685
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^^ And how they are going to do that?
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**Memogate may help mend Rawalpindi-Raiwind ties
**“Mian Sahab! You should settle your issues with the military some other place, some other time,” Jamaat-e-Islami chief Munawar Hassan said when he saw Nawaz Sharif being too friendly with General Ashfaq Kayani at a meeting in Prime Minister’s House in the aftermath of the May 2 incident.
And it looks like Nawaz Sharif did not have to wait for too long. A source privy to the new developments in Islamabad says the PML-N leader sees Memogate as an opportunity to mend fences with the military.
“The way he has behaved in this matter is simply amazing,” he said. “He does seem like he wants to seize this opportunity at any cost.”
Regardless of its past, the PML-N’s recent stance has been critical of the armed forces. The prime reason of the Raiwind-GHQ animosity is Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan. He is the closest aide of the Sharif brothers and has personal differences with the ISI chief.
Senior analyst Amir Mateen says Memogate is an opportunity for the Sharif brothers to mend their ties with the military.
A PML-N spokesman said the Memogate affair had been taken to the Supreme Court because the parliament had been made ineffective.
“The issue of Memogate pertains to the entire Pakistani nation. And we all know the current Parliament has become redundant. The Parliamentary Committee on National Security is nothing more than toilet paper,” said former PPP leader Enver Baig, who is expected to join the PML-N.
He said Nawaz Sharif wanted to get to the bottom of the issue like every other patriotic Pakistani, and that is why he took it to the Supreme Court.
Diplomatic sources say Nawaz was also happy with the ouster of former ambassador Husain Haqqani from Washington DC, where Pakistan’s future is thought to be decided.
Haqqani had portrayed the Sharifs as extremists who would make Pakistan a terrorist safe haven if they came in power.
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta2/tft/article.php?issue=20111216&page=6.2
