Nawaz Sharif! :smack:
well, first of all, if i were a mullah i would have declared him Wajib-ul-Qatl! good thing im not. but is he crazy or what!? he shouldnt live a free man!
since he says he and benazir have joined up to take some anti Musharraf action, does he mean to say he and she, both best of friends, are in fact behind the recent turbulence in the country, particularly in karachi? trying to create unrest so to destabilize the govt? trying to damage Musharraf and his authority, the peace and harmony among political, religious, social factions? who knows? he did admit that the oppositions are run from jeddah and dubai. maybe the bombs are triggered from there too?
Re: Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto behind recent terrorism…?
What you mentioned above is a just the tip of the iceberge… Bet ya remove khakis from the equation and give these tow low life scums a chance… At the most I give Pak 48 hours as a country…
It will be tum udhar hum idhar.. tum north mein raj karo or hum south mein.. you be the king of the north and I will be the queen of the south… Then there will be another east-west split…
No, I don't think that they are behind the recent unrest. They don't have the spine :p It is the work of either a third force or you know those two parties... the way they are blaming each other doesn't seem decnet. Afterall, these people are sitting in the respective national and provincial assemblies. They should take some heed. I think its very dangerous for Pakistan and particulary for Karachi 'cuz we don't want what happened in 1986 between pathan and mohajirs as a backlash of the clampdown on the notorious Bara Market in Karachi. This mudslinging can go ofhand and end up in rioting and mush more... Political violence ... a big NO, NO...
I remember sth from that Tehmina something (Khar's exwife)'s book "My Feudal lord" - I know it's not the most credible of sources but anyway... there was one part where she mentioned that Khar went to India a couple of times and even met Indira Gandhi. And there was an offer made to him and his PPP cronies whereby Pakistan would be attacked and the martial law regime removed, thus Pakistan would become "weaker" and have "democracy" restored. believe it or not, his ex-wife said that Khar and his pals actually agreed to the plan. not it just happens to be the case that Zia found out and didn't let Khar carry out his part of the plan in Pakistan.
so if a relatively small player such as Khar can go that far, I wouldn't be surprised if Sharif and Benazir had even bigger designs for their own country to protect their own self interest. after all Benazir's father did set a precendent for her to follow. plus I thought making anti-Pakistan statements used to be Benazir's forte but didn't Sharif saab also join the race by saying something like that recently? maybe an indication of what these two "leaders" are planning.
these two are wajibulqatl indeed if proven that this recent wave of terrorism is happening on their behest. goes to show how loyal to their own land are these "leaders" and politicians.
Is this a joke thread? What lengths will you people go to deflect blame from the army and its mullah comrades? If anything, it is elements of ISI who hate Musharraf's support of America who are behind the latest cases of terrorism.
As for anyone going to India, so what? Musharraf has gone to India more times then any other leader in Pakistan. India is not the enemy desptie whatever propoganda they teach in Pakistan Studies classes.
Mr Sharif was critical of Washington’s support for President Musharraf. “Tell me, why is America supporting a military dictator? I don’t understand! And after the recent American outrage,** even people like me and Benazir, liberal and progressive people are feeling angry at America. And if a liberal like me is angry, can you imagine what the others feel?” **
mein sadqay jawan BT (bari tind) de!
He is trying to portray himself as liberal…so he can be more acceptable for US. Look at the “us” part…like him and benazir were langotiya yaar from childhood. b@$tards!!!
Exactly..These anti-State elements should be eliminated. They have caused so much trouble when they had the CHANCE to govern, now step aside for others…
Khar met Gandhi to seek her assistance in providing weapons to overthrow Zia. The post Zia bureaucratic-military establishment of Isahq Khan and Aslam Beg severely punished him for his high treason by making him a federal minister in 1990.
Abdali,
you paint the right picture. Allah maaf kare!
Sambrilian,
God! i cant believe it. ive had this book on my to reead lost very long, i think i better get down and read it now. i do remember ppl often talking about how Khar had threatened to get back to pakistan on Indian tanks when he visited india. they should be hanged on busy streets.
Lostsoul,
yeah..maybe it is a 3rd hand, and thorough investigation before action is very necessary.
smooth guy! cool post!
RF,
yeah, and thats why the new ammendments to the constitution say anyone elected twice is not eligible. thats good.
Shawaiz,
which portfolio was he given? and, the govt at the time wasnt a bureaucratic-military establishment, it seems as though Beg was heir to gen ZiaulHaq, but he wasnt. he was the next COAS yes, but he did not continuw with militar dominance and arranged elections and BB came in. ppl say Beg was a PPP man and eve n say he was involved in Zias crash. God knows, but he wasnt calling the shots at the time and Khar would have been given the post by Benazir. who was the ruling BB in the end.
SK,
yeah..
it could be alqaeda yes…lets see what comes out, if it ever does..
Badayuni,
it seeems the jokes on you; dont you know that at this particular time in 2004 (and not 1984) the Army and ISI are totally against the mullahs? the army and mullahs are NOT comrades anymore! that was 20 yrs ago!
and what do ppl think ISI is? an alien or a monster with its own mind? its just another dept with officers under the PM, Pres and COAS. yes the ISI in 1984 was pro mullah etc and had mullah officers. today its not that way. even the CIA was pro Mullah in 1984. is it today? the ISI is run by officers, who are able and sane enough to run it and are appointed by the COAS, Pres, PM keeping in view their background etc. so creating myths about what ISI does is like blaming the death of Allah Wasaya’s bhains in Pind Chak 279 Zila Gujrat in 1991 on RAW.
and is goin to india to talk about peace the same as going to india and threatening the regime to walk over with tanks from the other side to crush them the same thing? if you think yes, im afraid any further discussion is useless. how could you compare Mushs efforts to the foot licking treasons of Khar etc!?
.. when a Governor is appointed who is a proclaimed offender is so many murder cases these things happen .. Musharaf is trying to rule with these looters and criminals - a disaster for Pakistan.
BEAUTY OF INDIAN DIPLOMACY
AND OUR DEMOCRACY LOVER
NAWAZ SHARIF
06 June 1004
Deposed Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif praised the “beauty of Indian democracy”. I really admire Indian democracy, he says reports AFP in 7 June 2004 newspapers.
Nawaz Sharif is trying hard to come back on the chair. He quite frequently keeps talking about democracy and criticizing General Musharraf for taking over from Sharif. General Musharraf despite the fact I do not support most his policies is a much better democrat in my eyes. I dont care if some may laugh on me for my saying so. General Musharraf no doubt is taking his own decisions nevertheless where-ever elected representatives have recommended him or insisted him on any point he had respected such recommendations and most agreed to it. Please do not start laughing at me until you have compared the example I am giving of Sharif.
The real fact is Nawaz had no interest or even inkling with democracy. I am not against Sharif. As an independent citizen having my own conscious I also know even Benazir, Altaf Hussain, all etc have no interest with real democracy. I am a common person hence I do not know high profile interpretations or definitions of democracy. What as a common man I know is democracy means doing and respecting the voice and wishes of the people by elected representatives and same way respecting the voice/recommendations of elected representatives by the government. But Sharif had not even slightest inkling with democracy or respect for democracy, elected representatives or parliament.
I judge Sharif from one example. Asif Zardari is alleged 10% man which so far has not been proved. He might had been 10% which should in way be of any surprise seeing so many 20%, 30% bureaucrats and Haqs but Sharif damaged the very foundations of this country. He was a businessman and a very successful businessman. In business Sharif family was honesgt. He knew well what does pulling of working capital form business means. Knowing well since trend is each new government terminates services of people employed by outgone rulers Sharif paid 5 years in advance salaries to some Bank Presidents. Pulling out 5 years advance salaries is pulling out working capital and this only such a person can do who wanted to destroy the very financial foundation of the institution concerned. Sharif would never give 5 years advance salaries to his Foundry managers.
He appointed the then Chairman Pakistan Telecommunication Company on very high salary which previously PTCL never saw. A parliamentary committee recommended that services of this Chairman should not be renewed on expiry of service contract. The democracy loving Sharif by passing all norms of democracy viz respecting the recommendations of parliamentarian committee gave extension to the chairman and thus slapped on face of parliament that I damn care for you. Now he is praising the beauty of Indian democracy.
cool post!