so on one end PTI stands for justice and change..and on the other end PTI knowingly accepting his sons fully knowing their father is going to PMLN....la howla walla quwata billah!
I am sorry buddy but why his father's joining pml-n should be of PTI's concern? Even SMQ's brother is in PPP but why should that bother PTI?
I am sorry buddy but why his father's joining pml-n should be of PTI's concern? Even SMQ's brother is in PPP but why should that bother PTI?
sure there is nothing wrong with it......lol
Baap PML N may.....Maa PPP may..baitayy PTI may....damad PML-Q may..... but there is nothing wrong with it!
this is what PTI politics has come to... just like any other corrupt mainstream Pakistani political party!!!
and top of that...PTI supporters inquire " what is so wrong abt it"
in Pakistani society which is still driven and governed by combined family system, if head of the family is joining one major political party and his sons joining exact opposite, that shd be totally fine.........
To be honest, i didn't know this Wasi guy was this bad. Imran should have avoided inclusion of such idiots. We may not even give tickets to people like him then why attract bad publicity?
There are plenty of such people in other parties but PTI should be different and avoid this in future. I think criticism by some neutrals should be welcomed but i don't see how supporters of status quo parties have any right to criticize given the fact that they celebrate inclusion of such people in their parties every day.
this is a million dollar point …if we are not going to give them tickets why include them and gain negative publicity
Wasi Zafar is one of the most obnoxious, notorious and hated politicians … why wud PTI accept him or his sons into the party … beyond me…
i am not a PTI supporter but mot probabaly I will vote for them…coz there is nothing else left…but when i see Wasi family joining PTI…man i get really disappointed…
Dont just blindly follow and justify Imran if he inducts ppl like wasi zafar or fawad chaudhry, criticize him for his wrongdoings.Speak up against such things or your party if it is truly Democratic or otherwise it will continue to make the blunders it has made over the last few years.
p.s. in the recent past, a PTI ticket was awarded to land mafia/badmash like Ijaz Khan Jaazi, so there is no whetting process.
Imran Khan does not 'induct' people. People join voluntarily. Anyone can join or leave.
I already said that if a) Wasi Zafar has joined PTI, then that is ok, but if he gets a ticket, then I would seriously be concerned, and rethink my support., and b) so far, other than a few tabloids, blogs, and forums, I have not seen any mainstream media source reporting Wasi Zafar or his sons joining PTI. So till some credible source comes up with this news, I think it is not even worth discussing.
That is a very oddly placed criticism. Essentially you are trying to say that a family should stick together, and that if a father is corrupt, his son should be corrupt too, his son in law should be corrupt too, as well as the rest of his blood relatives.....and that if anyone of them leaves the path of corruption, it is a farce.
If the Zafar family is hedging its bets, then they will pay for it in one way or the other. From what I have seen in PTI so far, I have no reason to believe that anyone will get an automatic ticket, and I dont think that a person like Wasi Zafar would get a ticket. If he does, then yes, PTI will lose a lot of its support base. But based on the facts as they stand right now, I see no reason to criticize PTI for this, other than just for the heck of it.
Baap PML N may.....Maa PPP may..baitayy PTI may....damad PML-Q may..... but there is nothing wrong with it!
this is what PTI politics has come to... just like any other corrupt mainstream Pakistani political party!!!
and top of that...PTI supporters inquire " what is so wrong abt it"
** in Pakistani society which is still driven and governed by combined family system, if head of the family is joining one major political party and his sons joining exact opposite, that shd be totally fine.........**
so your whole logic is based on this bold part? I still dont see the reason. Apologies for being dense here but even if Wasi Zafar's sons were not joining PTI and maybe PPP, I would still question your logic here. You mean to say that people follow their fathers blindly here in pakistan for political affiliations? or they should do that if they dont?
btw, just to clarify I absolutely abhor this wasi zafar dude. Dont know much about his sons. But I dont like his rumoured inclusion in PTI.
**I thought Super Permanent Lotay Joining Imran Khan but now in addition to above qualification, balls tamperers are also joining PTI, and how rightly you are supporting them.
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In a feudal party like PPP, it is unthinkable for a Ballawal to go against the corrupt legacy of his parents and grandparents, but in other families, sons do have the courage to digress from the erratic ways of their parents. Funny how some people are doing the monkey dance over a bit of news which is not even authentic. Wasi Zafar has NOT joined PTI. His sons have joined PTI. Funny how moderators actively ask posters to post links to any 'news', but noone bothers with their authenticity. This is similar to when someone wrote about Ballawal and Hina Khar getting married.
Baap PML N may.....Maa PPP may..baitayy PTI may....damad PML-Q may..... but there is nothing wrong with it!
Why do you think there is something wrong with it? My father has been supporter of JI, my brothers have been supporter of MQM (now they are against it) and I have stayed away from both and now support PTI to an extent, if 'supporters' can be diverse in a family why not members? Why does a son need to follow his father if he disagrees with him politically?
In a feudal party like PPP, it is unthinkable for a Ballawal to go against the corrupt legacy of his parents and grandparents, but in other families, sons do have the courage to digress from the erratic ways of their parents. Funny how some people are doing the monkey dance over a bit of news which is not even authentic. Wasi Zafar has NOT joined PTI. His sons have joined PTI. Funny how moderators actively ask posters to post links to any 'news', but noone bothers with their authenticity. This is similar to when someone wrote about Ballawal and Hina Khar getting married.
lol...are you serious.....dont make political process a joke in Pakistan....you keep supporting everything that your party does, no matter what....
just read your comment again...it is a clear indication that you have absolutely no idea how family system works in Pakistani political system.....
dude you are trying to justify atrocious political hedging practice which is practiced by all political families in pakistan shamelessly....and on top of that you are telling us that those family members are calling upon their conscience ....LOL
and among all those political families, wasi zafar family will be the one who will be calling upon conscience....lol
Wasi Zafar has NOT joined PTI. His sons have joined PTI. Funny how moderators actively ask posters to post links to any 'news', but noone bothers with their authenticity. This is similar to when someone wrote about Ballawal and Hina Khar getting married.
and i am saying YES YES YES YES...I am agreeing with you that Wasi did not join PTI but his sons did....Wasi joined PML-N.... and I am saying that this is a pathetic political hedging practice that PTI does not need to support....
Why do you think there is something wrong with it? My father has been supporter of JI, my brothers have been supporter of MQM (now they are against it) and I have stayed away from both and now support PTI to an extent, if 'supporters' can be diverse in a family why not members? Why does a son need to follow his father if he disagrees with him politically?
kaya baat kaar raho captain jee...lol....i know you are smart enuf to see through things...
these political families do this political hedging to make sure a certain part of their families remains in power....they change their loyalty in every elections...father will be in PPP and then in PMLN 4 years later....sons and damads and bhateejas will change their loyalty accordingly....
it has absolutely nothing to do with "calling upon conscience"....they change loyalties every 4 years...these families marry with each other for same reason....
this is precisely what PTI used to criticize in beginning of its movement....IK used to say that he and his party will break the backbone of these families who hedge their political aspirations and today you are supporting this practice? deep sigh
so you will be okay if a party refuses a member until all his family supports that party?
for established prominent political families, yes I will have a problem if they are doing political hedging........if javed hashmi joins PTI, his sons are in PMLN and daughter or damad in PPP...i will have problem...coz PTI is positioning itself as a major change party...and it will be hard to implement change in such scenario...
what if Wasi wins from PMLN and his sons from PTI....and IK makes the government....what are the chances wasi sons will be implementing PTI agenda when their father has won on the ticket from PMLN?
for established prominent political families, yes I will have a problem if they are doing political hedging........if javed hashmi joins PTI, his sons are in PMLN and daughter or damad in PPP...i will have problem...coz PTI is positioning itself as a major change party...and it will be hard to implement change in such scenario...
what if Wasi wins from PMLN and his sons from PTI....and IK makes the government....what are the chances wasi sons will be implementing PTI agenda when their father has won on the ticket from PMLN?
You have turned into a classic conspiracy theorist. I am very well of how politics is played out in Pakistan, and for the most part, it is a joke. But in this case, nothing has even happened, yet you have made quite tall claims. His sons have joined PTI. Fine. They have not gotten a ticket yet. If they do get a ticket, and if they play out PML-N agenda from that ticket, what chances would they have in the party?
Dont put the cart before the horse. They have only joined the party. Nothing beyond that so far. If and when they get a ticket, we can resume this gupshup. So far, PTI does not have any precedence to speak of. Such stuff can be attributed to PPP, PML-N etc, as they have been in politics for a while now, and the stuff that you mentioned above has happened with them.