Some scholar observed a startling similarity between the very structure of matter and Islam…He compared it thus: He observed, everything that matters is circular in shape…The revolutions of the atoms around the nucleus: Anti-clockwise and circular in shape…The revolutions of the planets around the sun: Anti-clockwise and circular…So isn’t it logical that the Tawaaf around the Kaba, which is also anti-clockwise and circular in shape, come from the same source? Think about it…
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"revolutions of the atoms around the nucleus"
gee, last time I checked it was electrons that orbitted around the nucleus of an atom and their orbit is best described as elliptical. The planets in our solar system also have elliptical orbits.
if the Tawaaf was a straight line, wouldn't everybody just keep walking? Think about it... :0
Oi Stu lamer
the world is round( well roundish really) so even if u walk a straight line u will be walking in a circle..
ahh haa, beat that now mr smarty pants :)
lajawab, its a coincidence, cuz then there are othe rthings that dont match this, saee or rajam for instance.
i dont need coincidences to support my faith in Islam and live a spiritual life.
Plus, if we go by Mr Lajawab's "some scholar observed" (the scholar will remain unnamed, ofcourse) theory, then Ka'aba should have been round and not square.
Fraudz bhaijaan, regarding your statement:
"the world is round( well roundish really) so even if u walk a straight line u will be walking in a circle.. ahh haa, beat that now mr smarty pants"
As you've said (sort of), the Earth is technically an oblate spheroid (not a true sphere because the poles are flat). But walking 'round the earth is not walking in a straight line in a geometric sense, because the force of gravity is keeping you on the ground.
stu chanda
I was joking. :P
Picky, picky, picky...:)...The scholar was Dr. Malik Ghulam Murtaza, may Allah (SWT) grant him Jannah...
The term Dr. Malik Ghulam Murtaza used was 'Baizwi', which translates into egg-shaped or oval...I used the circular...
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oh faisal, so you can make sarcastic remarks but I can't?
Bhai mera comment topic pe thaa... that Kaba is square, not round, so I didn't think the comparison with Atom and proton/neutron was very valid. Aap tau bears ki potty ki baat lay ayay beech mein. Try again, maybe this time, it will work. I don't like to edit, as much as you don't want to be edited. :)
Re: Nature in Islam...
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Some scholar observed a startling similarity between the very structure of matter and Islam...He compared it thus: He observed, everything that matters is circular in shape...The revolutions of the atoms around the nucleus: Anti-clockwise and circular in shape...The revolutions of the planets around the sun: Anti-clockwise and circular...So isn't it logical that the Tawaaf around the Kaba, which is also anti-clockwise and circular in shape, come from the same source? Think about it...:)
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Electrons, not atoms, revolve around nucleii.
The revolution is NOT anticlockwise. Electrons dont oribit the nucleii in one flat plane, its a random 3D motion, and if u take a sample plane, you see as many clockwise movements as anticlockwise. the motion isnt even circular.
Planets do NOT revolve around the sun in an anti-clockwise manner. In fact, what is your point of reference?
The orbits of planets around the sun arent circular, they are elliptical, with the sun as one of the focii.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Think about it. :)
Re: Re: Nature in Islam...
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Electrons, not atoms, revolve around nucleii.
The revolution is NOT anticlockwise. Electrons dont oribit the nucleii in one flat plane, its a random 3D motion, and if u take a sample plane, you see as many clockwise movements as anticlockwise. the motion isnt even circular.
Planets do NOT revolve around the sun in an anti-clockwise manner. In fact, what is your point of reference?
The orbits of planets around the sun arent circular, they are elliptical, with the sun as one of the focii.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Think about it. :)
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So sue me...:)
I watched the Hajj transmissions during Ramadan…This came to mind again…Thought about bringing it back up, but forgot…Here it is again though…
Muslims on pilgrimage in Mecca do the “Tawaf”, the circumambulation of the Ka’ba - that huge cube-shaped structure in the middle of the Sacred Mosque as part of the many religious activities of the pilgrimage. While the major pilgrimage (Hajj) is performed annually, the minor hajj (Umrah) can be performed on any day of the year. Thus, on any given day, and at any time of the day or night, there are Muslims circumambulating the Ka’ba.
The Tawaf is a request made by God in the Qur’an. It is performed in an anti-clockwise fashion. That is, the pilgrim keeps the Ka’ba on his or her left side and walks around the Ka’ba seven times in each undertaking.
Dr. Muhammad Ali Al-Barr, elaborating on the relationship between the Tawaf and the universe in his article “One Direction and Universal”, says, "On examination, it will be found that the entire universe which is in constant circular or elliptical rotation, is moving in the same direction as the Tawaf.
"The electrons of an atom revolve around its nucleus in the same manner as the Tawaf, in an anti-clockwise direction. The ovum, surrounded by sperms, turns remarkably in an anti-clockwise direction prior to fertilization actually taking place, thereby resembling the Tawaf. The ovum, in this rotation at the formation of the zygote which represents the start of man’s formation, is just like the circumambulator who encircles the Ka’ba in humility and prayer.
"Leaving aside atoms, electrons and cells, if we consider the globe as a whole, it could be found that the earth has two movements. It rotates on its own axis in 24 hours causing day and night. The various seasons of the year are due to the earth’s simultaneous revolution around the sun in 365 days. It is really astonishing to note that the earth, in both these movements, takes an anti-clockwise rotation.
"The story is no different when we consider the moons, stars, and galaxies which are in constant rotation in their respective orbits. These rotations, in circular or elliptical orbits resemble the Tawaf. Each atom of the circumambulator’s joins the universal movement - from the atoms to the galaxies.
“What an astonishing mystery it is that has been revealed today! The entire universe from the atom to the galaxies is in constant circular or elliptical rotation like a circumambulator who encircles the Ka’ba in the anticlockwise direction. Each and every object in the universe, the electrical current. atoms, moons, stars, galaxies, etc, are rotating in the same way as Muslims circumambulating the Ka’ba.”
God says, “Seest thou not that to God bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on the earth; the sun, the moon, the stars, the hills, the trees, the animals, and a great number among mankind.” (Qur’an 22:18)
So, the whole universe praises God. Every object of nature is yielding and is submissive to His Will in its own way. Thus, those who circumambulate the Ka’ba and offer prayers in humble prostration to God are in complete harmony not only in each and every cell of their body but also with each and every atom in this universe.
and you think the 'Tawaf' thingy was started by people after the revelations came to them?? O Bhai man has been wondering about nature and copying it for ages..