national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

[hazara]

as a hazara myself, i felt that this was quite accurate in how we have been struggling to gain a foothold in afghanistan.

The ruling Taliban—mostly fundamentalist Sunni, ethnic Pashtuns—saw Hazaras as infidels, animals, other. They didn’t look the way Afghans should look and didn’t worship the way Muslims should worship. A Taliban saying about Afghanistan’s non-Pashtun ethnic groups went: “Tajiks to Tajikistan, Uzbeks to Uzbekistan, and Hazaras to goristan,” the graveyard. And in fact, when the Buddhas fell, Taliban forces were besieging Hazarajat, burning down villages to render the region uninhabitable. As autumn began, the people of Hazarajat wondered if they’d survive winter. Then came September 11, a tragedy elsewhere that appeared to deliver salvation to the Hazara people. .

In recent times a minority of Hazaras have embraced the Genghis connection as a point of pride, but more often the outsider lineage has been used against them. For many the modern-day narrative starts in the 1890s, when King Abdur Rahman, a Pashtun, launched bloody anti-Hazara pogroms in and around Hazarajat. Fueled by chauvinism, armed with fatwas from Sunni mullahs who declared the Hazaras infidels, Rahman’s forces killed many thousands and took slaves from among the survivors. Throngs of Hazaras were driven from lowland farms up into the central highlands. Later rulers used force, law, and manipulation to keep the Hazaras confined, physically and psychologically, to those highlands.

hxxp://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/2008-02/afghanistan-hazara/phil-zabriskie-text.html

with all the talk about how non-muslims are oppressing muslims, why is there silence among muslims when muslim tyrannical regimes like the taliban and such are oppressing other muslims?

[ehtasab]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

Please visit more often.

[Monk]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

Yes hazara, are ninja or some thing. You disappear so fast man.
Its pleasure tou have you here.
Come more often.:)

[Moonshiner]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

I wonder what Taliban supporters on GS have to say.

[Dr.LuLworth]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

They aren't done foaming at the mouth. Once done, they will be here to bash the hazaras. Fiqar nahi meray dost.

:o

[hazara]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

I wonder what Taliban supporters on GS have to say.

bump. im also waiting for them to comment. after all, arent we muslims suffering under tyranny as well?

[hazara]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

i find it sad that some muslims in general have no problem with oppression as long as suits their own purposes.

is oppression of others necessary to establish an islamic state?

is genocide of an ethnic group a barometer of an islamic state?

is beating women and denying them basic health and education privilages part of their islam?

is allowing afghani arabs to massacre us simply because we looked different a necessity in establishing sharia?

[Ma_Mooli]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

^ what the situation for hazaras in afghanistan at present?

[hazara]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

^ what the situation for hazaras in afghanistan at present?

its in the article i posted

theres some things left to be desired, but overall, much better than it was before the invasion.

i am personally glad and thankful to the us for overthrowing the taliban once and for all. it doesnt surprise me that those who wet their pants over the taliban are naive confused desis and arabs living in the west, away from the hell that was evident under their rule.

i make dua'a that the taliban will never return to power again.

[mary_poppins]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

^ kewll i am hazara aswell , man this world is small hazara here , hazara there , hazara everywhere lol

[hazara]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

^ kewll i am hazara aswell , man this world is small hazara here , hazara there , hazara everywhere lol

you from quetta? i noticed in the west that the most hazaras live in melbourne, au, in the suburb of dandenong.

[mary_poppins]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

Lol i am not living in down under! are you?

Either way yeah i am orginally from quetta...well actually my parents are ....

Have you watched the national geographics movie '' the boy who plays with the budhas of bamiyan;''' not really sure about its title now... it was fun to watch :)

I havent heard much positive news about hazaras in australia! how are they living there ?

[hazara]

Re: national geographic on shia hazaras in feb 08 issue

Lol i am not living in down under! are you?

Either way yeah i am orginally from quetta...well actually my parents are ....

Have you watched the national geographics movie '' the boy who plays with the budhas of bamiyan;''' not really sure about its title now... it was fun to watch :)

I havent heard much positive news about hazaras in australia! how are they living there ?

im in the usa. my family is from hazarajat of course :). i figured you were since so many hazaras fled to quetta to escape the brutal barbarity of abdur rahman khan back in the 1890s.

no i havent seen the documentary yet, thanks for the reccomendation.

from what i understand, other than the mv tampa incident in 01, the hazaras in australia are living much better alhamdullilah than they would be back home. they also try to integrate by placing strong emphasis on education so we wont get pushed around ever again.