Nasrallah: Israel temporary country

Battle can be lost as winning battle is temporary victories and loosing battle is temporary losses. The result of the battle can depend on weapon advantages, number advantages, strategic advantages, training advantages and military backing but to win the WAR, people are needed who are on path of justice, have just cause, determination, will to fight and belief on self. As long as Arabs and Palestinians will have spirit to resist and will not accept their defeat nor accept injustice to them, losing battles does not matter.

Time and military balance keep changing, that could take decades though it does not matter if that takes even hundred of years, regardless a time would come when Arabs would achieve their freedom and just right over their homeland. InshaALlah.

Even if Israel captures more land (that seems unlikely with their fading advantage in army strength) it does not matter as further they would stretch further they would become weak and further they would have people directly resisting them, quicker they would get their ultimate defeat and complete destruction. No security zone can save them from their destruction, as injustice never pays.

For Zionist, if not today then tomorrow, they will have to pay with their blood all the innocent blood they have shed over the years and that would be natural justice.

http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/96652

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07.29.06, 19:32

Hizbullah chief says during televised speech ‘Lebanese are standing strong, and it is clear the enemy has not achieved any military objectives’; adds: When in any Arab-Israeli conflict were two million Israelis forced to flee or enter bomb shelters?
Roee Nahmias

Hizbullah Chief Hassan Nasrallah said Saturday during a speech aired by Al-Manar TV "the bombardment of Afula is just the beginning. Many cities in (Israel’s) center will be attacked if the barbaric aggression against us continues. When in any Arab-Israeli conflict were two million Israelis forced to flee or enter bomb shelters?”

During the airing of Nasrallah’s speech sirens were heard in Carmiel; three rockets landed in the northern city, but no injuries or damage were reported in the strike.

The sheikh referred to Israel as a “temporary country.”

“Israel was established as a military state; the army was not established as an army of a country,” he said.

During his speech Nasrallah waved both Lebanese and Hizbullah flags and promised that Hizbullah would not break and that the situation on the ground is different than the picture Israel is trying to portray.

“It is clear that up to this point the Zionist enemy has not achieved any military objective; not only I say this, but they say this as well, as does the entire world and all the analysts. The destruction of infrastructure and the hurting of civilians is not a military achievement, but a barbaric one.

‘Beginning of the end for Zionist entity’

“So far the enemy has only suffered military defeats, as was the case with the most important of its three Navy vessels off the Lebanese coast – which was struck. This was also the case during the ground war, when elite Golani Brigade forces were defeated,” he said.

“You can see the amount of damage we have caused them in photos showing soldiers evacuated on stretchers lying on their stomach because they were shot in the back while trying to escape. The most important loss of the enemy relates to the morale of its leadership and army, as the army is incapable of overcoming a small organization with a strong belief in its cause."

The Hizbullah chief added: “(Vice Premier Shimon) Peres said ‘this is a life or death war for Israel,’ and he is right because he knows that if the resistance will come out triumphant this time the Zionist entity will not have a future. When the (Israeli) nation will begin to lose faith in its army it will mark the beginning of the end for this entity.”

“The enemy’s only option is to pressure Lebanon in the hope that this will lead to political pressure that will thwart our efforts. In this framework (US Secretary of State (Condoleezza Rice is returning to the region to impose her guidelines on us,” Nasrallah continued.

“We must realize that Israel is ready to stop the aggression because it fears the unknown; today more than ever Israel is acts under the influence of the US, and therefore Lebanon is in need of political resolve in addition to the resolve of its warriors in the battlefield.”

‘You will not break our spirit’

As to the recent statements made by Lebanese officials according to which Hizbullah is fighting Syria and Iran’s war, Nasrallah said “It seems there are a number of people who fear the resistance’s victory – this victory will be for all of Lebanon; it will be dedicated to every Arab, Muslim and Christian in this world who protected Lebanon.”

The Hizbullah chief turned once again to the Arab countries and expressed his resentment over the fact that they are not supporting the struggle.

“We did not ask them to fight with us or defend us, but they should not be a burden either. We are not asking for their help, but if a certain (Arab) country should take a stand that would assist us – we would be thankful.”

Nasrallah also attempted to downplay Syria and Iran’s role in the war, saying the two countries are not proving aid to Hizbullah; he thanked Syria for absorbing thousands of Lebanese refugees.

The sheikh added: “To the enemy and the world I say: As long as the war continues we will be prepared; we will not break down or be defeated. To (George W.) Bush and (Ehud) Olmert I say – we will respond to you with greater force; you will not break our spirit.”

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Man you people are dense.

Living in poverty and rubble is not right. The "Spirit to Resist" means living in the stone ages, and in a perpetual state of warfare. Did the Ottoman Empire engage in constant losing wars with more powerful countries?

Societies make progress during times of peace. Compromise has been possible. Jordan and Egypt have made peace with Israel, and this peace has been honored for decades.

The Palestinians are now on the brink of a failed society, with no working government, no social services, no external support, no jobs, and a leadership vaccuum. Pretty brave of you to be urging them to continue the fight, when they are paying the price. At some point these people need leaders who think with their brains and not their balls.

Your value set is not serving your people very well.

The largest source of wealth in the Arab/Muslim world is oil. That was not earned, but though the luck of Geography Muslims landed on it. Today, despite the wealth of all this oil, these countries are still totally dependent on Western technology for drilling, pumping, pipelines, shipping and capital to build all this. What does that tell you?

If you want to rule the world, it will take more than an AK-47 and fire in your eyes. It means you have to work harder and be smarter than the rest of the world. Good Luck. The "Spirit to Resist" is highly overrated. Wage economic Jihad, put away the gun.

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Ohioguy:

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Yea, you are right; our brain is dense with brain cell and power to think while there is empty hole in your upper chamber. It is not my fault that your upper chamber is empty, so why getting so upset with my dense upper chamber?

If you have any thing in your empty upper chamber (that seems as empty as vacuum), can you tell that how you and your evil state of America (USA) became Israeli Zionist slave without even giving any resistance?

Obviously, I would not like to comment on your mail, as I believe that most of your mails on this forum are like coming from someone with empty upper chamber, so answering you would be like playing flute in front of bull.

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Dense, as in Thick as a Brick.

Take your flute and play with your Bull.....

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hmmm :Dbura maan gayea? :halo:

Ok, here is proper reply to your mail (though a short one with little explanation):

For Arabs, they have already lost the battle long time ago and they are just continuing the war. As for Jews, they came from far away lands to be part of a war that would eventually take their life, what an irony.

Well, Jordan and Egypt only kept what was theirs and let those who were their brothers and neighbours deal with injustice. You may appreciate as who knows, that is your character too. People with this type of character are those who let their sisters raped as long as rapist tells them that he will not harm them.

Regardless, Palestinians have nothing to compromise anyhow, as they are already living in rubbles. Their choice is to accept Occupation by Jews of their homeland and thus live under slavery and humiliation forever or fight for their right until the very end.

After the occupation by Zionist Jews from far away lands, when they (Palestinians) had a government and a society that you are calling them a failed society with no working government? They are the people living under continuous occupation and people that live under occupation they have only two choices, that is either to live like that forever or fight for their rights and independence. The only leader they need is one that can lead them to freedom and independence of their homeland by expelling those occupying their land.

Well, my value for all people (that includes American people who are slave of Jews), to have some dignity and have freedom from others enslaved them.

Most Arab countries are slave too. Actually, they are slave of slave. I mean slave of USA who is salve of Zionist Jews. Regardless, for a country to develop, money plays a minor role and it is determination and national will that is needed most.

True, you are right, but then for development of people and especially mind, it just not take money but times too, though money helps. Regardless, there is shortage of money in developing world, but with time, things would improve InshaAllah.

When under test and pressure, counties excel most. It was western sanctions with intention to weaken Pakistan made Pakistan stronger, as due to these sanctions, Pakistan worked and thus developed their own nuclear fuel and own most of defense arsenals.

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Yeah repeating the same old mantra is so satisfying for the Maulvi Ashabs.

Heck they may be right. Every thing in this world is temporary. Only Allah is above this cycle of birth and death.

Having said that, groups or nations who make Maulvis their masters die quicker than the relatively secular entities.

Maulvies have a thing with premature death, and these bearded hazrat make sure their followers meet the creator as soon as possible.

Secular hazrat on the other hand, are more timid, and prone to use their brains a bit more than the maulvi hazrat. Thus ensuring their prosperity, power, and longevity.

Coming back to the specific point related to Middle East. Arabs secular or Mullahtic all have been bitten with this "temporary bug". Starting long time ago we can count very easily who was more temporary than Israel.

  1. Mufti the grand-Arab wazir in Hitler's court, was more temporary.
  2. yes-sir-Arfat marhoom turned out to be more temporary.
  3. Gamal abdul Nasir abul shikast turned out to be more temporary.
  4. Hafiz (half) Asad Sr. turned out to be more temporary.
  5. Ayatullah roohullah Khomeni turned out to be more temporary.
  6. The second coming of Sultan Saladin aka Saddam turned out to be more temporary.
  7. Soon the Ninja turtle Nijat of Iran will turn out to be more temporary.
  8. Soon Shikast aka Nasra ullah will turn out to be more temporary.
  9. Soon Zaya-hiri zawahiri will turn out to be more temporary.
  10. Drum roll please! Ben-la-Deen will turn out to be more temporary.

So yes Israel is temporary. But all these Maulvis are temporary-ier.

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Now wait. Egypt lost the Sinai to Israel. Israel built settlements in the Sinai, then abandoned them when a permanent peace agreement was reached with Egypt. Land for Peace has always been the formula. Until the First Intifadah, the Palestinian territories were quite prosperous and were growing at nearly 10% per year. That is exceptional growth. Economic conditions have crashed to where Gaza has 35% unemployment the last time it was measured. If you measured it today it would be closer to 50%. The government has no ability to tax, thus no ability to pay wages. Their Billion dollar budget has been largely funded by the West, with damn little coming from Muslim countries. Teachers have not been paid for six months. Government employees have been paid 1/2 of one months wages over the last 6 months. Society cannot exist this way. Now that Hizbullah has taken the headlines the Palestinian issue will be pushed to the back burner. Thank you Hizbullah for such help in the time of need.

So what is the best Hizbullah can achieve? They can put up a good fight, then die. It is just a matter of time before the majority of their capability is gone. In the mean time Lebanon is wrecked. Was it worth it? Oh sure, Hizbullah will puff up with pride. But life for the average Lebanese will go backward 20 years.

Right now, Hizbullah has huge support. But if you remember, so did Bush when the fighting was hot. After the smoke clears the Lebanese are going to be furious, and if Nasrullah is not killed in the war, the Lebanese will do it. Do you really think Iran will pay to repair the damage in Lebanon? hardly. Until there is a Government firmly in control of a pascified country, no one will lend Lebanon a dime to rebuild.

Rubble is bad, and pride is temporary.

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Land for peace :naraz: What land? Whose land? :naraz:

All land that Israel has is land that Israel occupied from others. Israel have no land to give, so what it talks about land for peace?

You mean that Palestinians were nice slave until they started Intifadah? Man, is there any importance of growth compare to misery of salvery that has no hope of living with freedom? Palestinian did not even had right to move within their own homeland nor their home was ever safe. Most of their homeland was under occupation and known as Israel while other was concentration camp for them, known as GAZA and West Bank.

Do you have any ability to think? You are saying as if you are talking of an independent country. Maybe, You are saying that Palestinian was good under slavery and are worse off when they fight for independence, so they should stay slave.

Whatever little was happening in Gaza and West Bank before Intifadah was crumbs from USA and others for them to stay living as slave. Even than they had no right to move even in west bank or gaza (both are concentration camp for Palestinians).

Their homes were no homes and Israelis were constantly throwing them out of their homes if they needed it. Israeli soldiers could have any time humiliated or killed them at will (even kids or new born baby). Any Palestinian at anytime could have got arrested without any legal right and could have thrown into prison. [All is true even now]. I do not know that in such circumstances, a person can even enjoy anything in life.

I wonder if you would like to live as Palestinians live in occupied lands. Personally, if I was a Palestinian living under occupation (or my family or people living under occupation, the way Palestinian nation is living), I would have preferred to fight and die, taking many of my oppressors with me.

Hizbollah is fighting for a cause. Their cause is to fight against injustice, occupation, and oppression. Many love to fight and die for a cause. If Pakistan is attacked, I would not mind fighting and dying for defence of Pakistan. Hezbollah and Palestinians have no choice. They are living in their homeland fighting an aggressor from far away land, and they have no place to go.

Most ridiculous thing is what Israeli Jews are doing. They left their homeland for Israel where they are fighting for occupation, injustice, suppression, atrocities, and domination over Palestinians and other Arabs and dying for that too, when the land they are living does not belong to them and they have alternative too of living in their homeland or USA that is willing to accept them.

Most surprising thing is that, they are doing all sort of evil in the name of religion (and concocted stories from Bible), killing Muslims and Christian Arabs for supremacy of Jews. It seems that even being religious (though most Jews are atheist but acting religious and claiming Palestine as their religious home) they believe different God created them and after death, they would have no one to answer.

What a pathetic death Jews are having in Palestine, having death for promoting slavery, occupation, atrocities, injustice, suppression and domination, that honest and unbiased people of this world do not condone nor it would be condoned by God after death.

Does it matter? Many from Lebanon and other part of Muslim and Arab world must be waiting to join them (in large number) and this resistance must have increased their popularity and attractions. As for arms, I am sure that they would get probably much more and of much higher quality of arms in future than what they have now. There is news that Syria is already arming Hizbullah.

It is possible that in years to come, Hizbullah would be forming popular government in Lebanon and may even make Lebanon a well armed and a country with formidable defence. I believe that Lebanon seriously lack effective air defence and effective Air force that can carry out bombing over Israel, that future Lebanon government might work to tackle it. Let see, time would tell

How can you compare Bush and Hizbullah? Bush war were all aggressive war, fought for occupation, domination, atrocities, injustice, slavery etc etc. Bush imposed war on others without any credible reasons, lying to people that voted him. Most American when started using their head must have realised that Bush conned them and made them unjust aggressors, thus support of Bush was bound to go down once truth clears up.

As for Hizbullah, they are fighting an oppressor, monster occupying force, unjust and aggressive power in the region, one that made Lebanese life miserable. Hizbullah has not left Lebanese people undefended and ran away but is fighting for justice, giving their life to defend Lebanon and right of Lebanon. How Lebanese would start hating Hizbullah and would go against them?

If you have a bully in your area that bullies you and kick you every day then if someone from your family stand up and resist that bully, and in response bully become mad and started kicking everyone and you got a kick too, will you then start hating the person of your family that resisted bully or would you start hating bully more?

Well, Saudi has already given 1.8 billion dollars (one billion dollars deposited in central bank of Lebanon, 500 million dollars for direct aid and around 30 million dollars other collection already raised) and others are also pledging money for construction in Lebanon. Lebanese government is intending to sue Israel for damages too.

Slavery and living with injustice is worse than rubble and revenge is sweeter then pain. As for pride, there is no pride for Arabs of the region to lose. Only Israelis have pride and that is temporary as one day they have to lick their pride (that they have already started licking).

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Land for peace has been the formula for peace. That is why under fire from Hezbollah, Condi Rice and co are now asking Israel to withdraw from the Shebaa Farms (on the Golan Heights) and give it back to Lebanon as part of an agreement for a ceasefire. :k:

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ha, fleeing.. so what do u think isreal should do, continue bombing. If u r so teary for the lebonese why dont u go up and join with Hezbollah.I dont know why the patriotic lebonese are fleeing the country when it is under seige.They dont have the stomach to face Isreal or is it that they think they are caught between the extremist Hezbollah and the isreali army.
It will be good for lebonon if Heisbulla disarms.Period.

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Yes. The Syrians who actually lost this area won’t get it.

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^

Israel who captured the area is being forced to get out - under the victorious guns of the Hezbollah. Keep on consoling yourself with crumbs but the fact is that Israel has LOST this war.

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yep, its nice to see once in a while how reality sinks in. But make no mistake and look out for the spin…

From disarming of Hezb to return of captured terrorist the objectives are gona change faster and more often than monkey does table dance.

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It really is. These barbarians first occupied Palestine during crusades for more than a century. Now it is their proxy Reich of Nazis.
But these people are basically cowards. They have no balls to fight a long battle. Just look at Americans in Iraq. Americans now want their troops out of Iraq. They would like to "change the world", but not when their troops return in body bags. Army recruiters are finding it harder and harder to find new recruits.

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Keep the momentum...Hezb... :)

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Was our Prophet maulvi/bearded Hazrat or was he not?

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Nasrallah prediction is very true. As the event and world economical and political circumstances unfolding, the time is also not very far, maybe around 10 to 15 years:

I always believed that Jews have all the right to live in this world peacefully. I use to think that over centuries, Jews had hard time and many innocent Jews were killed. Now, seeing the actions of Jews who occupied Palestine, I realized that they are selfish lots that do not care for the life of others, they made Palestinians homeless and punishes innocent civilians whenever and wherever they can, they have no value of other people life neither they have any human values.

Probably Hitler knew them better then most and only wanted to get rid the world of these parasites to save the world from their mischief. Jews are human parasites.

When I use to read Hadith that a time would come that Muslims will massacre Jews in Palestine without pity, to such an extend that there would be no place for Jews to find shelter, I use to get surprised. Islam teaches us that all humans are creation of Allah and one should never kill those who are not fighting, how Muslims would look for, find them, and would slaughter Jews even when they would be hiding, looking for refuge, or finding shelter.

More surprising was the fact that Muslims consider Jews children of Prophets and gave them all respect. Jews throughout Islamic history found shelter amongst Muslims.

Christians banned entry of Jews in Jerusalem for 500 years, until Muslims occupied Jerusalem during the time of Umar (RA) and opened the city for Jews, how there is prediction that same Muslims would massacre Jews in Jerusalem was surprising.

Well, now things are getting clear. Jews sugar daddy (USA) is now a waning power. Due to Jews, USA has made enemies all over the world and gained nothing. Thorny baby (Israel) has cost sugar daddy trillion of dollars financial burden, inhuman monster looks, and huge cost in American human lives. It seems that thorny baby is costing sugar daddy everything from relationship with friendly countries, good image, financial and military supremacy to becoming evil face of Satan. USA has already lost any respect and created many enemies all over the world.

It seems (as the things are developing) that most likely in 10 to 15 years, this sugar daddy (USA) would lose all the glitter and power (financial and military) they have now in the world and most likely they would blame their thorny baby (Israel) for that and thus would become stepfather to them. Regardless, the time would come that sugar daddy would not be able to do anything anyhow (and would feel safe to keep quite) and table would start turning in Middle East for thorny baby.

Thus, I am sure that whenever the table would turn and Jews would find themselves on loosing end, the way they have treated all around them, and the way event might fold before table turning, it seems quite likely that massacre of the sort mentioned in hadith would come true. I believe that as relationship of thorny baby (Israel) with countries all over the world developing, there would be no sympathiser for these Jew parasites anywhere in the world and thus, I do not believe that any country in the region or elsewhere would even give refuge to these ungrateful and disgusting Jew parasites.

Note: I would like to say that if such would happen, no one should blame Muslims as complete destruction of Zionist country would be their own doing. Jews massacre would be result of emotional revenge by people (not by victorious army or result of any policy). Mob that would have suffered in the hand of Jews atrocities would go on rampage against the Jew parasites, with emotion filled with revenge, hate and anger. Thus, even though Islam does not allow such massacre, human nature (that all humans including Muslims have) would be the reason for this massacre, where Muslims would overstep the restriction of religion in order to take their revenge.

Regardless, massacre of Jews at that time would be just a collateral damage of warfare for what I believe, Muslim nations and army would apologise later to the Jews living outside the region.

**One thing is for sure: Hopefully, Muslims will not kill Jew children and females (as only inhuman evil parasites likes Americans and Jews kill them intentionally and indiscriminately, not Muslims). Islam considers that all children are Muslims thus Muslims would adopt these orphan children or would send them to government organisation looking after orphans. As for adult females, they would stay peacefully as they like.

** American history is full of atrocities on others and justifies claims that USA is the biggest devil terrorist country of the world. There history started with killing of innocent original inhabitants of USA whose numbers was as much as ‘Indian subcontinent’ of that time. There atrocities and injustice on innocent men, women, and children of African origin whom they made slaves is well documented and unparallel anywhere in the world.

There history of killing indiscriminately all civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki using nuclear bomb is unparallel of inhuman evil satanic charcter. Later they carpet bombed using napalm and all sort of inhuman chemicals on innocent men, women, and children in Vietnam. Later, they indiscriminately and unjustly bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. USA developed most present inhuman torture techniques and passed it on to other countries. They have done atrocities to many people around the world and it is no surprise that they condone killing of innocent men, women and children by Israel.

As for Zionist Jews, they are human parasites and God’s most cursed people in the world. Allah wrath kept falling over them throughout centuries, wherever they went. Hitler tried to do favour to the world by getting rid of them but was unsuccessful. There short history in power (at the backing of USA, the biggest devil country ever existed) is full of atrocities on Palestinians, Lebanese, and other Arabs (Muslims or Christians).

In the past Muslims fed them and gave them shelter but these parasite Zionist Jews are 'namak haram' and 'ahsaan faramosh'. There atrocities and genocide of Palestinian is unparallel in modern history (where whole nation made homeless and forced to live under occupation).

Sabra, Chatila and now Lebanese plus Qana massacre reminds of their inhuman evil character and their killing of men, women, and children indiscriminately.

They are the most deceiving people ever lived and love to use others like dogs (these days, they are using USA as their dog). They kill innocent men, women, and children indiscriminately and at the same time cry that their finger got hurt while killing.

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The temporary country of Israel's major sponsor - the USA is now pushing to make this 48 hr temporary ceasefire permanent - this week.

Israel has LOST - Hezbollah remains undefeated.