The barkat from the Quran, duas, namaz, etc is barkat that comes from the message/actions, not from an inaminate object like a belonging of a person.
You do dua directly to God. Please provide proof that we are to use tokens and objects to communicate THROUGH to God. These are not portals from Once Upon A Time or talismans, etc. That’s creating a sense of magic.
RV, you’re reading way too much into jadoo and such topics. Never use an object, even if it belonged to the Prophet, for any gain. A simple dua suffices. There is no evidence of these things in the Quran. And furthermore, if this was a real thing, Muhammad (SAW) would have manufactured a gazillion shoes, worn them, and handed them out as ice breaker gifts after his Friday Khutbas, no?
Here, take a shoe, look at it, pray to God, say some prayer like 164 times, phoonk on yourself, the shoe, and your pet dog and your wish will be answered.
Interesting, and what support do we see of these things in the Quran?
There are some seriously warped stories in the hadith, you do realize that these are sayings that were collected well after the Prophet (SAW) died?
Page after page in the Quran - verses after verses with Allah asking us to pray directly through him, that we do not need any intermediate channels or talismans. That these are practices of the occult, and how many times is this forbidden in the Quran?
There are also hadith talking about women not being leaders, but then the Quran talks about Queen Sheba. Comon folks, let’s be logical.
How is HAIR/NAILS/SHOES going to cure you of anything? What is the mechanism of action here?
It was a blessing and a sign of a miracle. Is there something in the Quran which asks that we drink ZamZam and all of our illnesses will go away?
I have PCOS, drank zamzam galore, and the PCOS is still there. Guess what’s making it better?
Medications, diet and excercise.
Unless zamzam has been analyzed and shows some hidden antibiotic/antiseptic/anti-oxidant property that is not shown in regular water, please show this to me.
Spring water in general has minerals, but this goes for spring waters from other springs too. I only drink spring water. I still get sick, like anyone else. :k:
Allah tells you guys to use your brains, and then you don’t.
Your condescension and arrogance amaze me, mufti PCG.
Look at the tone of your post. So “phoonkna” or dam karna is a ridiculous thing as well to you, eh? There is a hadith of the Prophet SAWS doing reciting the 3 Quls and blowing on himself.
And reciting something a set number of times is also ridiculous. Look to your daily salah, even in that we are to recite dhikr a set number of times. And you can also find ahadith where the Prophet SAWS suggested reciting a dhikr a set number of times for certain rewards/blessings. But since you believe yourself to be more knowledgeable, I wouldn’t be surprised if you’d say that…no, you’re not supposed to recite dhikr…forget dhikr…just ask Allah straight for what you want.
Interesting article - saudis won’t let you near it for research.
Zamzam water: concentration of trace elements and other characteristics.
Many Muslims drink Zamzam water for use either medicinally or religiously. Millions of pilgrims drink it and take bottles of it to their home countries. Heated scientific and political debates appeared after BBC reported in May 2011 that Zamzam water is poisonous, because of the high levels of arsenic. The World Health Organizations classifies arsenic as a human carcinogen, but some types of arsenic are also used as medicines. Adequate scientific studies on the Zamzam water are absent. This paper will provide, for the first time, basic and comprehensive information regarding the geochemical properties of Zamzam water for more than 30 indicators and using the state-of-the-art laboratory facilities. The data will help us to understand the sources of pollution under discussion, reactions at both local and international levels; and will highlight the potential healing capacity of Zamzam water. Thirty Zamzam water samples were collected by three distinct methods; from 10 pilgrims living in different locations in Germany in 2007, 10 samples from shops in Frankfurt and Berlin in 2011, and 10 samples directly from Makkah in 2011. The samples were analyzed 2 weeks after collection for more than 30 indicators: pH, EC, Eh, Cl, F, Br, NO(3), PO(4), SO(4), HCO(3), Ag, Al, As, Ba, Ca, Cd, Co, Cr, Cu, Fe, K, Mg, Mn, Na, Ni, Pb, Sr, and Zn beside others. Four major instruments were used; the IC, the ICPOES, the ICPMS and the HGAAS. The quality of the water did not change for 2 years and there was an excellent agreement among the results of the 30 water samples as well as between the results of the 2 years for the same samples analyzed in 2007 and 2008. The water is alkaline (average pH is 8) with an average Li concentration of 15 μg L(-1). The average concentrations of As and NO(3) showed values three times higher than the WHO standards (27 μg L(-1) and 150 mg L(-1), respectively). The averages of Ca and K were 95 and 50 mg L(-1), respectively. Very urgent steps are required to scientifically screen for the elevated parameters As, NO(3), Ca, and K in all Zamzam water sources and locations with full transparency. The resultant information should be made available to the public, and the relationship between pollution and human health should be addressed. The alkalinity of Zamzam water and the presence of trace amounts of As and Li may cause the healing power. However, a scientific strategy should be developed and adopted to enable further research and studies on toxicology and treatment technologies could be applied if needed.
And furthermore, why didn’t Rasulullah (SAW) make it a practice in his own lifetime to pluck the hairs from his head and hand them out for shifa and good luck? :-/
Did he hand out his shoes to people?
shrugs now why his wife did that, I don’t have a clue. But there were strange things that happened after Muhammad (SAW) died, that I’m sure he would not have liked to have seen, like where 10,000 people died when Aisha (R) and Ali (R)'s armies fought each other in the Battle of the Camel. Just saying. The sahaba should be respected, but they were not infallible. Revelations did not come to them to guide them or correct them, so we should be careful in immitating everything that was done after Rasulullah (SAW)'s death. Even he did not want himself to be worshipped…
I don’t think its about zamzam or anything. Whatever little research they did, it already shows elevated levels of arsenic which is poisonous. There is no scientific proof so far for the healing property of As, it is considered a freakin poison. And these government won’t even health inspectors check for safe levels and trust blindly on faith.
I am sure people have been healed after they drank zamzam but I doubt its from water itself but from the faith they had in Allah.
I am not a mufti, nor am I wise, but I’ve read the Quran and it is clear as day, page after page, we owe our worship to Allah, not a Prophet. Not any Prophet. They were all there to guide us and help our ancestors along. They are human too. The duas go to Allah and Allah grants you or does not grant you a blessing. It is up to Him. Rasullullah (SAW) was a very good man, and he was fair and just, and his companions did their best to be like him. But even they made mistakes, and even our Prophet (SAW) was corrected by Allah. To say that his mere belongings have a shifa, when the Quran doesn’t perscribe this, and this was not perscribed by the him during his own lifetime, is highly questionable.
And if it is questionable, I just stay away from it. Quran is very clear on things. You want something? Ask Allah.
You don’t get it? Then accept it.
Looking for some pair of shoes will not change Allah’s decision on a matter.
Thank you for sharing the article, pisiform. Someone please show me where it is perscribed in the Quran to use zamzam water as a medicine, in place of actual medications, for any illness?
We Pakistanis especially have really created confusion.
Yes, the only one who uses their brain is you, lmao. PCG, you are asking whether the Quran tells us to drink zamzam. Lemme as you this : Did the Quran tell you how exactly to pray your salah, how many raqat and exactly what actions should be performed? Answer is no. You get that from ahadith…or is that not sufficient for you? The Quran does tell you to obey the Messenger SAWS. So, if there are consistent, authentic ahadith that support the topic at discussion and that also contain evidence/permissibility of “phoonkna” and reciting dhikr for a set quantity…who are you to dismiss it entirely without doing research. Don’t be hasty.
Shias pray 3x/day and Sunnis pray 5x/day. Who are you to judge which one is correct when the Quran doesn’t even define a set number? Fact is that there are multiple variations in namaaz, again, which one is correct? Did it ever occur to anyone that we have complicated it by asking a 100 questions - how should we kneel? Should we put our left knee down first then our right? Or can both go down at the same time? Rear end up or down? Back straight or curved when bending forward? Hands wrapped at our breasts or over our tummies?
We were not there in 500-600 AD when Muhammad (SAW) lived. FACT: ayats (revelations) that were directly from Allah were written down, but Rasullullah forbid people to write down his individual acts/sayings. There is even a hadith on how he asked that hadith not be written down, the irony of it all.
Recall the verses in the Quran that talk about a zillion questions being asked on how to slaughter a calf. We have overcomplicated our religion.
I’m sorry, RV, I can tell there are things that you want answered in life. Pray to Allah. Stop with this obsessions regarding jadoo, and talismans, and now shoes and hairs of a MESSENGER, not a DEMI-GOD, when he himself did not leave behind jars of hairs for distribution to the poor!
We need to be smarter, and be more willing to question the ancestry of Islam. We owe our allegience to Allah.
Umm Salama may be your Prophet, but she isn’t mine. She was a human being, prone to mistakes, if those hadith are even remotely true.
actually these ahadith are copy pasted. You have not explored any of them because most of these ahadith do not have exact references except a name of Imam.
And no hadith mentions that Prophet (s.a.w.) distributed his hair or nails for tabarruk as according to some ahadith there is prescribed way to dispose nails and hair for us muslims too. If companions on their used it for that matter that does not mean Prophet(s.a.w.) advised them to do so.
Please do not misguide people.
You can go and check the books of ahadith in a library. I’ve heard these from scholars and didn’t simple copy paste them without my own research. Please do post a proof here to prove these ahadith fabricated.
Even Quran talks about the story of Prophet Yusuf (AS)'s cloak being blessed and how when his father touched the cloak Allah returned his sight.
It’s about one’s love and devotion towards the Prophet Muhammad (SAW). But if you don’t feel the love towards the Prophet’s belongings then that is fine…no need to stop others from finding peace and barakah in it.
you have not studied yourself then how can you advise people to study ahadith as you say you heard these ahadith from scholars?
And original point is not about authenticity of the ahadith you mentioned here but NO hadith suggests that Prophet (s.a.w.) distributed his nails or hair for tabarruk.
I am sorry and probably wrong too. I consider our Prophet to be a rational and intellectual being, therefore I can not bring myself to accept that he would ascribe healing powers to hairs, nails, shoes and other personal belongings, or endorse people to use them as such.
Even if we entertain this theory that he did, then that makes us no different than the chailay of peer pagara, who collect dirt with his pajero’s tyre marks and claim it to be holy.
One possibility that could be is that maybe it was a miracle which worked during Prophet’s life, at specific moments in time, just like the staff of moses. Attributing mythical powers and expecting it to work now on our pathetically petty problems is insane.
Redvelvet, stories like these are in every freaking religion. Every religion, irrespective of geographical location has accounts of demonic possession. Their priests, pundits, maulvis all claim to get rid of evil by reciting verses from holy books or performing exorcism rituals, which makes me wonder what is wrong with people, why don’t we see these patterns, why can’t we stop looking for god’s name in cabbages and clouds?
If we keep on with this, we will soon find our selves performing crazy rituals and then wonder where we went wrong.
People please think about it, religion is not blindly following on whatever you hear and read, use your brains. Things that don’t make sense are most probably bull-crap, don’t be sheeple.
lolz, this not the point. I wonder how can you even ask me when you yourself have not verified.
You assume yourself that it was for tabarruk whereas Prophet (s.a.w) did not mention it. And you conveniently ignored my point that some ahadith suggest to dispose hair and nails in a proper way. for example, it might be disliked if we throw nails at dirt place.
I’m not a hadith scholar hence hold no authority to " verify" a hadith. These ahadith were taken from Sh. Gibril Haddad’s article, a learned scholar of Islam.
And you still haven’t answered my question. Why did Prophet (SAW) distribute the hair and why the Sahaba (ra) kept them?
