nafs, ruh, soul, spirit

just fancy words for consciousness and the mind?

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No ...

In fact consciousness is the term given merely for the place of where exhibiting self-awareness happens. Mind is the abstract space where ideas are constructed. Nafs is the source that exhibits consciousness and desire, it is Id. Ruh is soul which can be objectified as being the vessel that contains life in a spiritual domain just as the body contains life in a physical domain. The spiritual domain is viewed by the heart where an action with intent is given weight in a similar way to the force of an object which is weight in the physical domain and the object is viewed by the eyes.

So the spiritual equivalent of object is spirit and the physical equivalent of spirit is object.

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what is the evidence for the existence of a ruh

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Rooh, as we religiously believe, is nothing but the order of Allah. Its not an entity as such (like Jins or Angels). At least that this what my understanding is.

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then what is it :(

is it a part of us, outside of us, does each person have their own, do we all have the same

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Its like a software I guess. Each computer has its own

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maybe its a virus :chai:

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Define existence please

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Surah 17 : ayat 85

They ask thee concerning the Rooh. Say: "The Rooh (cometh) by **command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"

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Atheism by strict definition is the lack of belief in any spirit, angel, phoenixes, karma, holy spirit, supernatural entity or substance because with the help of science and analyzing and skepticism to disprove the existence of all above.

:chai:

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Here is Rooh in a bottle!..:slight_smile:

Ok all kididng aside…

Proof of ones Rooh is when a person dreams the Rooh leaves the bounds of the physical body and experiences the other dimensions beyond the senses!

The Holy Quran states that check it out!

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Can you provide a surah and ayat number(s)? You know it takes couple of weeks or more to read the whole Quran, so finding the reference will be a task.

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Gladly:

best website for Quran Search: IslamiCity: Quran Search and search for the word “sleep”

39:42 (Asad) It is God [alone that has this power - He] who causes all human beings to die at the time of their [bodily] death, and [causes to be as dead], during their Sleep, those that have not yet died: [44] thus, He withholds [from life] those upon whom He has decreed death, and lets the others go free for a term set [by Him]. In [all] this, behold, there are messages indeed for people who think! -

An-Nab (The Great News)

وَجَعَلْنَا نَوْمَكُمْ سُبَاتًا (78:9)

WajaAAalna nawmakum subatan

Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Creation] [Signs in creation] [Sleep]

78:9 (Asad) and We have made your Sleep [a symbol of] death [5] -

Therefore if Sleep is like death where in death Rooh leaves the body, similarly during sleep Rooh leaves the body!

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Jazak Allah Kher. I extensively uses the phonetical search on Islamicity website too.

Thanks for the Quranic reference. I had heard about a a hadith which states that Allah takes the rooh away from the body when we sleep but this taking is little different than the taking away at death. However, sleep is refered to as the young sister of death in the hadith.

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Who are we ? RUH/MIND/NUFS. Answer PLZ!!!!

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We are made of all of the above.

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I agreed we are the combination of RUH/MIND/NUFS but do you think which one rule us Ruh/?Mind/Nufs? Spirit never died return back to Allah

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It's not about them ruling over us. It's more about we ruling over them.

If Nufs rules over us then, we are seriously going in a wrong direction and will be doomed forever.

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Tlk :hmmm:

rooh is the order of Allah :konfused:

rooh is the life of our body

when it leaves the body , we die

when it reaches hell, the body bears the pains

and when it reaches heavens the body senses comforts.

yea i also heard once that our spirits only meet those roohs of whom we think during the day time.

a study of parapsychology.

nafs= rooh + heart

soul + spirit = conscious

but then again mind is left alone :frowning:

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Mind is never left alone.It always rules over spirit and Nufs. Thoughts always create in mind and thoughts become things.