NA unanimously passes resolution against US drone strikes

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doesn't hold much significance - if any concrete steps are not taken to actually do something about State's sovereignty and innocent civilian lives blown into pieces in the name of collateral damage.

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Ahan. :yk::yk::yk:

I’ll show some mercy and let you off this time simply coz it’s Friday and you ain’t worth it.

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blah blah blah....
AM i talking about PPP's haramkhori?
NO
I am talking about bayghairti of PPP in salman taseer murder case.

My question might be stupid but not retard like.....

ps: burnol laga loo bazurgooon...its been a while i was made mod.

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I know its not funny for PPP… they cried a lot already about it :chai:

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NATO blockade: Nawaz, army chief discuss ways to end protests – The Express Tribune

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Try it and you will get an appropriate response.

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What do you want PPP should have done. Get this b@st@rd Qadri released from jail after breaking it and hang him at Hira Mandhi Lahore?

I give a rat’s arse if you are made moderator or whatever here. Keep the sanctity of position what you have been favored. kapish
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Done? Pai Gaye thand? Khul Gaye qabz?
You do give rat’s… It shows :smiley:
Don’t derail the thread.

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Really don't want to answer your stupid remarks. It was you who is derailing the thread.

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How about you try to give an appropriate answer as to why Pee Pee Pee couldn't finish off saudagar of maut despite being in Fed Gov for full fine years, having the the blessing of oh so friendly opposition by PMLN and being in an alliance with MQM. So what stopped from freeing Pakistan from this terror and getting rid of this menace once and for all? They had full five years, right? Or perhaps Zardari and PPP were also supporters of Taliban hence no concrete action against them.

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Not finishing them is one thing supporting is another. Due to not so good performance others are ruling now. I am looking at present and future of Pakistan. Where as you are wailing about PPP hate syndrome. Wake up and ask your brainless leader to change the policy of supporting 'maut ke saudagar' at least if he is incapable of restraining them from killing poor people of Pakistan.

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Just stick to the question asked. What was PPP's policy in regards to fighting the Taliban? They were the Federal power for five long years, if the question of finishing them off wasn't part of the agenda then it's pretty self explanatory that they clearly did not see you maut ke saudagar as enemy number one nor they saw terrorism as a threat to Pakistan existence. Despite their treacherous five year rule being the biggest factor that accommodated record breaking terrorism and loss of innocent lives. Yet what did they do about that? Yes they supported Taliban with their bloody 'you-are-free-to-wreck-absolute-havoc-in-the-country-but-don't-expect-us-to-care" attitude.

Imran at least has a clear cut agenda and polices which are endorsed by both Federal Government, the army and the international community. You can throw as many hissy fits as you like but one thing is for sure, in terms of daily violence, Pakistan is in a much better place today.

Since this thread is talking about unanimous anti drone resolution passed in the NA, I'm sure plenty of Pee Pee Pee jokers and looters and murderers also voted against. Now what does that make them?

If you have any knowledge of how democracy works or any respect for it, you wouldn't be moaning and blaming Imran in a thread which talks about an unanimous decision of a National Assembly. Fake jiyala alert?

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Last government was very vocal against ‘maut ke saudgar’ that is why Taliban threat to bomb jalsa of PPP, ANP and MQM and restrained them to organized public address.

Rest of your post is as usual bs promotional sh!t for your brainless leader does not need any comments.

**Zardari Assesses War on Taliban, Appeals for Aid | Online NewsHour | May 8, 2009 | PBS
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Pakistan’s President Asif Ali Zardari describes his country’s offensive against the Taliban and other militant threats, and calls for more aid in this new “war of the world.”
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari

MARGARET WARNER: President Zardari, thanks for being with us.

PAKISTANI PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: Thank you for having me.

MARGARET WARNER: Now your Army has launched this major offensive in the Swat Valley. What is the state of play right now? How much progress has the Army made?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: I think the last count we’ve managed to dislodge most of the folks from the mountains and the miscreants have lost about 145 people, so that’s 145 of the nasties dead, and we’re still in operation.

MARGARET WARNER: Now, it’s said that there are four-to-5,000 militants in that area. Does that jibe with your numbers?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: Close, not exactly four to five. More to about 3,000. This action has been going on in this region for the last three weeks now. We’ve had some successes earlier and this success is going to be even more effective.

MARGARET WARNER: Your prime minister, yesterday, said the objective was to “eliminate the militants and terrorists.” Now, what does that mean - eliminate?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: That means clearing out the area of the miscreants and bringing life to normalcy.

MARGARET WARNER: But I mean, what happens to them? Are you talking about killing them all or driving them somewhere else? If so, where?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: No, we are talking about - this is an offensive, this is war. They - if they can, they kill our soldiers and we do the same.

MARGARET WARNER: But I’m still trying to figure out what eliminate means.

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: Well, I know what you’re trying to figure out. Eliminate means exactly what it means.

MARGARET WARNER: Killing them all.

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: That’s what it means.

Failed peace deal with militants

MARGARET WARNER: Now, your government agreed to a peace deal with these militants back in February. Is that deal now off?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: The deal was based upon that the fact that they would bring peace and lay down the arms. They refuse to lay down arms and they did not bring peace to the region. So yes, you can say that the deal is off.

MARGARET WARNER: So is your government committed now to essentially re-establishing the civilian government - the national and provincial government - without the Taliban running the show up there as they have been?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: They were never running the show; they were there - there was a presence of the Taliban. We were there and we had - you know this is the third operation in Swat. We have encountered them before and we had an agreement which failed - it did not work. So now, they have to be eliminated.

MARGARET WARNER: But is it conceivable that if the Taliban were to say, okay, now we’re ready to abide by the terms of the deal, that would still go forward?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: No, I don’t think so. I don’t think so.

MARGARET WARNER: Let me ask you now about the refugees. A quarter of a million have fled just in the last week or two, and the U.N. thinks it will go up to half a million. Who is responsible for these displaced people?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: The government of Pakistan - we are responsible, and we are being helped by the United States and we are being helped by the United Nations and other donor agencies in the region. But by and large, we are responsible for them.

MARGARET WARNER: Now, the international aid groups, with all due respect, say they aren’t getting enough assistance from your government. I’m sure you’re overwhelmed, but - and they also say they are not able to get into some of the conflict zones to help. Is anything going to change in that regard?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: We can’t have the aid donors going in there and getting casualties on their ones, so it’s a little precarious, a little difficult situation, but the moment that it’s settled down, then we will allow to get - to go there at the moment the situation and the people have come out of the area. So we are looking after them in camps. Most of them have gone to their own extended families. And that’s the way it is playing out.

Fighting country’s adversaries

MARGARET WARNER: Let me ask you now about your broader commitment to fighting the militants. The Obama administration had hoped, when you came here, you would tell them that you’re ready to move more of Pakistan’s army and other forces from your eastern front with India toward the west, where the greater militant threat exists. They say you’ve made no such pledge. Is that true, and if so, why?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: The fact is that we have moved more troops today and yesterday and the day before. And we move them according to the requirement. We already have 125,000 personnel there. So when we need to replace them, we need to improve upon their strength, we do that.

MARGARET WARNER: Which adversary do you think now is the greatest threat to your country? Is it your historic rival, India, or is it the militants?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: Well, I’m already on record, I’ve never considered India a threat - said I’ve always considered India a neighbor, which we want to improve our relationship with. We’ve had some cold times and we’ve had some hard times with them. We’ve gone to war thrice. But democracies are always trying to improve relationships.

MARGARET WARNER: So if so, why aren’t you able to move even more forces westward, as at least U.S. commanders think you need to do?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: Answer is that we have done some.

MARGARET WARNER: Another concern here in Washington is the security of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal as the Taliban has appeared to take more territory in the areas that might house some of these nuclear sites. How confident are you that they are secure, and what makes you confident?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: They have not been able to take any area from Pakistan. We have not surrendered any inch to any force ever in the past, nor in the future, nor in the present. That one mountain has been taken over by an ex-group of fighters does not mean that I’ve conceded that mountain to them. No, they are there. My forces, as soon as they get there, they get them cleared.

MARGARET WARNER: So I still don’t get the answer to my question, which has to do with the nuclear arsenal.

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: The nuclear arsenal has no relevance in the war against the Talibans. There is no way they can get their hands on it, first. And all the sort of relevant authorities are satisfied that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal is in safe hands.

MARGARET WARNER: And are you in charge of that nuclear arsenal?

PRESIDENT ASIF ALI ZARDARI: Yes, ma’am. I am the supreme commander, so they do come under the command of the president.

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:rotfl: Vocal? :rotfl: That’s bloody it? Wow, just wow! How many lives did they managed to save by just being “vocal”? How many anti terrorism policies and forces and operation they managed to bring about by just remaiming vocal? And vocal about what exactly? We hate Taliban but we won’t harm them in anyway?

Wow you jiyalas are easy so to impress, innit? The usual slave mentality and as usual you have avoided the real question about why the traitorous Pee Pee Pee did jack sht and now they’re full of support for brainless Imran’s stance.

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You said what action and I showed you the sentiments of past government. Only mentally impair will consider this as joke. Your brainless leader has no clue what to say in such suicidal bombing killings except condemning Sam for drones which had proved detrimental and the most effective way to deal with these beghairat maut ke saudagar living in the caves.

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Yes I asked for actions not sentiments. know your English?

The only person who has been acting brainless is you!

This thread is not about Imran, its about NA resolution against drones in which your murderers, looters and traitorous Pee Pee Pee leaders also took part.

If Imran's wrong, what the hell is wrong with the bloody your bloody lords and idols?

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In those sentiments also included the actions. Read it again.

Resolutions should be against Pakistan army which allowed/allows such drone strikes if Pakis are that ghairatmand like IK.

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Not the army. A dirty deal was signed by a sold out coward dictator. Now that wardi wala chooha is gone and facing the courts, the army is still stuck the dark hole feeling the pressure and the facing the embarrassment.

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Old coward dictator was head of army then and he had absolute powers to do whatever he liked as per past dictators. NA should take up this issue and pass resolution that in future such decisions should be taken by PM and it is his prorogative according to constitution. Unless this is not done, blaming Sam is absolutely unjustified. Civilian government has to take responsiblity with powers exercised constitutionally. That is the only solution to drones and other most important matters.

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PPP senator terms drone hits effective, beneficial - thenews.com.pk

ISLAMABAD: The Senate on Monday expressed that the drone strikes had been very effective as these attacks had targeted scores of leading terrorists over the years. Also, the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) came under fire in the upper House for indirectly furthering the agenda of the militants by halting the Nato supplies and opposing drones. The senators exchanged strong arguments as they urged the government to revisit the current political narrative on drone hits, as it only supported the militants and their backers. The senators criticised the superior judiciary for not sharing with the House whether or not any judge holds dual nationality. After failing to get the information through several attempts previously, Senator Farhatullah Babar moved a resolution, asking the government to publish the names of those judges of the superior judiciary who had dual nationality.

However, on the request of Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Pervaiz Rashid, who now also holds the charge of the Ministry of Law, that the Supreme Court registrar would again be approached for sharing the information, Senate Chairman Syed Nayyar Hussain Bokhari deferred the Bokhari deferred the adoption or otherwise of the resolution. The government was asked to adopt a clear policy with regard to the drones to rid the nation of confusion thereon.The House held debate on the motion moved by Mian Raza Rabbani of PPP on December 11 on foreign policy, drone strikes and stopping Nato supply route. In his speech, Senator Farhatullah Babar traced the history of drones inside Pakistan and contended how useful these had been in targeting the terrorists. Babar said that the current political narrative on drones should be revisited for it only supported the militants, seeking to link militancy to it to promote their objective of taking over the state by force. “We must admit that drones have been an effective weapon against militants but we have to find how to make it lawful by seeking drone technology and using it ourselves,” he maintained.

He pointed out the first mysterious drone strike took place in June 2004 that took out Nek Muhammad, which was promptly owned by the government that claimed Nek Muhammad was killed in an army operation. Later it turned out that the mysterious strike was a drone attack, he noted. Similarly, he said, when Baitullah Mehsud was killed in a drone strike, the US president, appreciating the Pakistan Army said, “We took out Baitullah in a missile strike by a US drone. You have got the Pakistan Army for the first time fighting in a very aggressive way and that is how we took out Baitullah Mehsud,” clearly indicating that the attacks were carried out with the help of Pak security establishment. On March 26, 2009, he said, the chairperson of US Senate Intelligence Committee Dianne Feinstein said: “Drones have been taking off from airbases in Pakistan with the consent and approval of the military authorities.” Referring to media reports in October last year, he said that the defence secretary admitted before the Senate’s defence committee that drones operated from Shamsi airbase when it was under their use and that the launches were made with the knowledge and approval of the authorities.

He recalled on way back from the US visit Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said in London on October 24 that the issue was not of drones. The issue, he said, “was to set our own house in order”. The drones, he said, had killed many of Pakistan’s worst enemies. He added that Pakistan was obligated under the UN resolutions to drive out foreign militants from its territory. “Neither in the past nor in the future blocking Nato supply route will stop drone attacks,” he said.

Babar asked for making a clean admission that drone attacks had been taking place with the express permission of the security establishment, that these attacks had taken out some of the most dangerous militants and enemies of Pakistan and that these strikes would not end as long as foreign militants were tolerated on Pak soil. “We must revisit our political narrative and find ways to make the drone strikes lawful,” he said.
Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi of MQM said that Pakistan government could raise its voice for halt to the drones only if first the terrorists, hiding in the tribal areas were driven out and terrorist acts stopped. He opposed talks with Taliban until they accepted the writ of the government and readied themselves to talk under the Pakistani Constitution. Mashhadi said militants were rebels, who had taken arms against the state and killed innocent people, the police and the armed forces. The senator cautioned that the weak position adopted by the government would only strengthen the militants and the banned extremist groups having close links with them. Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party’s (PkMAP) Abdul Rauf alleged that the foreign policy was always given by the military and it hardly reflected the wishes of the masses. As a result, he said, Pakistan did not enjoy good relations even with its neighbours and many planks of the policy, given by military ruler Ziaul Haq, were still being followed.

The House unanimously adopted a resolution tabled by Senator Mashhadi on thrashing out a master plan on construction of dams, reservoirs and efficient use of water. Senators regretted that for the last so many years, no major dam had been built, and today Pakistan was declared a water-stressed nation. Zahid Khan, Farhatullah Babar, M Hamza, Mohsin Leghari, Khalida Parveen and Abdul Rauf also spoke on the subject. Another resolution unanimously adopted was on the increasing incidents of rape, particularly of minor girls. Tabled by Mian Raza Rabbani of PPP, the resolution condemned in the strongest possible termed these heinous acts and called upon the civil society, intellectuals, Ulema and media to launch a social campaign against the perpetrators of this crime and urged the federal and provincial governments to amend the law to provide severe punishment to the guilty.

The Senate also passed a bill - The Civil Servants (Amendment) Act, 2013 - unanimously. Moved by Senator Ilyas Bilour of Awami National Party, the bill provides that a civil servant holding dual nationality or citizenship of any foreign country shall not be entitled to promotion to grade-20 or equivalent and above. The bill needs to be adopted by the National Assembly to become an act and will come into force at once.

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Why is PPP against drone strikes when they are killing terrorists? Hypocrisy?

These double faced political parties have played their part in pushing the country into an abyss.

If the strikes are good for Pakistan, the politicians should openly campaign for them. Issuing contradictory statements to different audiences is not helping anyone.

PPP opposes US drone attacks: Senator Farhatullah Babar - thenews.com.pk

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) Senator Farhatullah Khan Babar has said that though his party was against US drone attacks, the aerial attacks had also killed some key terrorist figures.

Speaking in the Senate on Monday, he said a former foreign minister was also a part of anti-drone protest who had never uttered a word against the air strikes during his period in office.

MQM’s Senator Tahir Mashadi said that terrorists from across the world were hiding in Pakistan while the US would target a place from where it was attacked as per its laws.