Today also he failed to produce any evidence and later addressing to press conference he said, he have given his statement, and he called it evidence…
No other prove was provided… Only here say…
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Ecp can easily check the discrepancies if they want to. Ecp has not been able to provide the records of form 14 and 15 (if I am not wrong) on their website so far.
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form 14 is the polling station wise results, and form 15 and 16 are the compiled results signed by the RO’s.
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Imran has been accusing everyone for rigging and found being saying that he have evidence proving the massive rigging... Now when tribunal have called him in to put in the evidence, he failed to produce one...
If the missing forms were that big, then he should have produced it today, his lawyers should have raised it today, his polling agents should have provided evidences to support their claim... Just because he is saying a lie continuously without producing single piece of evidence...what to say on this?
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^ should imran present the missing forms? Ecp is there for a reason. While the election tribunal cannot solve this issue we can see other seats which are being over turned.
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Khoda pahaaR nikla chuha, daidh saal toan kamla kita hoya waa sanu...
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did he raised it? other than just saying that evidences are in the bags, what else did he produced??? please stick to the topic… today IK had all the chance to prove that he was right… but alas, he failed big time… saying that he do not have any evidence but ET should open the bags because he think so… is a foolish thing to say to the least…
now please tell us, why not a single evidence is submitted by IK while he have been chanting rigging rigging from last one and half year…
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I agree with the OP that previous elections were free and fair, same is true for even those conducted under Musharraf and Zia.
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ECP must immediately release result related forms(14,15.16.17)for all NA&PA seats on its website. Its been 15 months now! Its citizens right
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Any investigation will be incomplete without verification & audit of election result forms. ECP has yet to publically release these forms.
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did he raised it? other than just saying that evidences are in the bags, what else did he produced???? please stick to the topic... today IK had all the chance to prove that he was right... but alas, he failed big time... saying that he do not have any evidence but ET should open the bags because he think so... is a foolish thing to say to the least...
now please tell us, why not a single evidence is submitted by IK while he have been chanting rigging rigging from last one and half year...
This has been raised many times, if I am not wrong there's a petition from PTI in that regard as well.
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Khoda pahaaR nikla chuha, daidh saal toan kamla kita hoya waa sanu...
same was the case in Kh. Asif constituency, where PTI candidate failed to produce a single piece of evidence .....
same is the case in Kh. Saad case, where hamid khan is running and not producing evidence... one wonder why...
PTI is nothing but liars... so far they have not been able to produce any evidence at any forum other than their own container or their show hostedd by Mubashir Luqman.
This is the reason they don't want judicial commission.. because then JC would be calling them for the evidence and they know they cannot produce any...
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2013 polls: ECP meeting adds confusion to election row – The Express Tribune
**ISLAMABAD: **While doubts are being cast on the credibility of the 2013 general elections by some political parties, officials of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) added to the confusion during a news conference on Friday.
After a meeting of the commission with different departments which had worked with the ECP for conducting the elections, an ECP official revealed that the organisations entrusted with printing ballot papers had hired 34 people from Lahore markets for ‘manual numbering’ on the ballots.
Since the government printing presses use old machines, the Printing Corporation of Pakistan and Pakistan Security Printing Corporation, had to mark serial numbers on the printed ballot papers manually, Malik Masood, the director general (Elections) at ECP, told reporters. Due to shortage of staff and scarcity of time, the ECP provincial office requested the caretaker Punjab government to arrange workers from the market for the purpose.
At the news conference, Malik Masood was flanked by the commission’s Director General (Media) Iftikhar Raja, Director (Law) Sheikh Muhammad Nawaz and Director (IT) Khyzir Aziz. Acting Chief Election Commissioner Justice Anwar Zaheer Jamali, who is a serving judge of the Supreme Court, presided over the meeting.
Masood revealed that in all 34 printing experts had been hired, mainly from Urdu Bazaar and Lakshmi Chowk, Lahore, for this purpose. These people had worked strictly under the discipline of the government bodies while Pakistan Army was providing security, he added.
He said the PTI chairman’s allegations that the ballot papers were printed in Lahore’s private printing presses were baseless. However, the disclosure of hiring private individuals from market for such a sensitive job might provide impetus to criticism of the electoral process. In the numbering order, same serial number is marked on a ballot paper and its counterfoil.
The meeting was convened to analyse the allegations and prepare a fact sheet. The ECP was asked by the parliamentary committee on electoral reforms to submit a detailed reply on the rigging allegations in its next meeting scheduled for September 29.
The meeting came days after the ECP published a post-elections review report on its website. The damning report pointed out shortcomings in the elections and sparked a new controversy. Surprisingly, however, the commission later disowned the contents of the report.
Thumb impressions
According to Masood, marking thumbprints with magnetic ink was an initiative of the commission. “Under law only CNIC was mandatory [to verify identity of the voter]. Steps like electoral rolls with picture of the voter and thumb impressions were additional steps taken on the direction of the Supreme Court,” he added.
In most of the cases, the ECP officials said, NADRA’s database cannot read the fingerprints since ridges on thumbs of most of the people who do manual labour fade away.
The ECP officials could not satisfy queries regarding legality of the fingerprints verification if it is not covered under the law. They also failed to give a satisfactory answer to questions regarding Rs100 million spent on a magnetic ink project when there were possibilities that a large number of fingerprints would not be readable.
Masood said the ECP would inquire into the issue – but he wouldn’t say when the inquiry will start.
Result Management System
Director (IT) Khizar Hayat told the news conference that the ECP followed a computerised result management system and no manual results were prepared. Forms 16 and 17 had been received from the returning officers through the system and the computerised record was available with the commission. He refuted a claim in the post-election review report that the computerised system had collapsed on the election day.
Asked why Forms 14 and 15, which are prepared by the presiding officers at every polling station, were not put on the ECP website so that everyone could compare the consolidated results prepared by the returning officers in Forms 16 and 17, Hayat said it was not needed under the law.
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This has been raised many times, if I am not wrong there's a petition from PTI in that regard as well.
did he raised it today at the proper forum??? he had his chance today???? the judges were there to determine it... shouldn't he be raising it today???? saying he have raised it on different occasion and not raising when it matter the most leaves doubt on his claim...
NA-122.. IK is chanting rigging from last one year and have made life living hell for the people of ISB and other cities and yet no prove he have to produce and you are again instead of posting any evidence are busy posting articles???
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I agree with the OP that previous elections were free and fair, same is true for even those conducted under Musharraf and Zia.
did IK managed to produce any evidence today? same red-light of truck...
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did IK managed to produce any evidence today? same red-light of truck...
No he didn't. I agree with you that the elections were free and fair.
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Jee, exactly..
And to be honest, I must say your points are sound :k:
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Go to the courts and they’d ask you to go to Ecp. Serve legal notice to the Ecp and they wouldn’t respond. Justice Pakistani style.
Court asks PTI to approach ECP for publishing polling station-wise results - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
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Actually, IKs contention is that everything in the universe conspired to cheat PTI of its electoral mandate. According to him, the courts, ECP, ETs, army chief, and the care takers were all in to make sure that PTI does not win. When ask to back up allegations with some proof, nothing beside more allegations. Reality is that IK’s ego has destroyed PTI & govt is just ignoring him now as it should.
Parliament Watch: Soul searching in PTI ranks recognises missed chances - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Not long ago, Imran Khan was demanding the head of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over alleged rigging in the 2013 general election. He won’t settle for anything less.
But the dynamics of domestic politics have changed since Imran marched his forces into Islamabad on August 15 to raise the demand.
Evidently, new realities at the national and international stage have forced him to water down his demand, irrespective whether it was just or unjust.
Indeed, the third time prime minister looked running scared as a hunted lion when the ‘Azadi marchers’ of Imran Khan and the ‘revolutionaries’ of Canada-based Dr Tahirul Qadri camped themselves outside the parliament building, initially waiting for a signal that would bring the change both wanted.
When the undisguised ‘umpire’ did not raise his finger, as Imran claimed he would, the obstinate in the former cricketer and the active Islamic preacher took over.
They continued their agitation, attacking the political parties and leaders who gave their shoulders to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to save “the democratic system”.
However, fatigue took over their activists and made Dr Qadri fold up his Pakistan Awami Tehrik’s sit-in first. Imran Khan continues to roar from his custom-made container in the Red Zone though to this day, for the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf daily evening show where the crowd has grown thinner like the leader’s demands.
On November 30 the PTI indeed put up a big show but the thunder was gone. There was no echo of the August demands for resignation of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, dissolution of the National Assembly and trial of all those under Article 6 who allegedly helped PML-N win last general elections.
Instead, the nation heard PTI suing for a “telephonic assurance” from the government for meaningful negotiations so that the party could defer its call for strikes in major urban centers – and if those did not bend the government – bring the country to a halt on December 18.
Imran Khan called it PTI’s Plan C.
All would read it as an admission that his Plan A and Plan B failed, and wonder at his politics. Had not the government sent word to PTI before it set off for its Azadi March for a dialogue to address the mismanagement of last general election?
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif even wrote to the Supreme Court on August 13 to set up a judicial commission for the purpose. Talks that took place were undone on September 13 when Imran Khan refused to drop his demand for the prime minister’s resignation, as wanted by the political and military circles. His point was that election fraud cannot be probed impartially under Sharif’s command.
Later developments entirely changed the political climate and put Imran on the defensive. The military leadership did not intervene in the political crisis, even when PTI president Javed Hashmi, while resigning from the National Assembly, charged that Imran Khan had been “working hand-in-glove with the forces of establishment”.
But the military did stay government’s hand from using force to eject PTI and PAT protesters from Constitution Avenue.
Isolated in Islamabad, Imran took his lone battle to other parts of the country. That was his Plan B which won him huge crowds of disaffected youth but no political gains as such.
Now the Plan C is out, which talks about paralysing life in the industrial city of Faisalabad on December 8, commercial hub Karachi on December 12, and the once bastion of power Lahore on December 15 and whole of Pakistan on December 18.
**But behind the hostile posturing, PTI is pushing for the resumption of the stalled talks.
From chairman Imran Khan to information secretary Shireen Mazari, the PTI leadership has been asking the government to return to the negotiating table.
Whether the effort represents frustration over its fruitless 100-day-old street agitation or a change of strategy, many people think Imran Khan has missed the bus. If he had accepted the opposition parties as guarantors of impartial judicial probe into his charge of election fraud, between August 20 and 30 when his protest movement was at peak, he would have achieved political maturity at least. Now, striking a deal with the more confident Nawaz Sharif will be harder as he would dictate his terms. Leaders of the ruling PML-N are already saying that election tribunals are the only legal forum open to PTI for resolving the electoral fraud issue.**
PTI’s Dr Arif Alvi, however, claims that after his party dropped the demand for the prime minister’s resignation the ball is in the government’s court. “Over the past two months we have pulled off massive rallies all around the country, including the one on November 30 in Islamabad. How else a party anywhere in the world can raise its demands,” asked Irshad Ahmad, a PTI’s tehsil level office bearer, who had been a regular visitor to party’s sit-in on D-Chowk. “And we are only asking free and fair investigation to determine if our assertions regarding last general election are true,”
**A palpable sense of despair has seized the party, however.
People in the party’s inner circle also are uncertain what way the movement would end.
“Ideally speaking, we would want new elections as a result of our dharna. If that’s not happening, the party should at least get the judicial commission the government had asked the Supreme Court to form, for face saving,” said a PTI MNA who didn’t want to speak on the record.
After all, Dr Qadri got the FIR of his choice registered and then a damning commission report which confirmed malfeasance on the part of the Punjab government in the killing of 14 PAT workers. “But in PTI’s case, we have nothing in our hands so far,” he added.**
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^ I have never agreed with how Pti has conducted their march so far. They have achieved absolutely nothing. Now it depends upon the government if they want to negotiate with Pti or not. Anyways here we are talking about rigging in this particular constituency, after one and half years the tribunal has still nit made up its mind if they'd open up the bags for recounting or not. As far as Ecp is concerned, if they have got nothing to hide I don't know why they don't put the rumours to rest by publishing the electoral data they have on their website.
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If Ayaz Sasiq has got nothing to worry then why did he get stay order, simply open the bag and prove IK wrong..IK has welcomed the same to be done from where he won seats..
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BAS ! Khan Sahib nay keh dia hay keh rigging hoi hay to hoi hay
Saboot ki kia zaroorat ?
Khan Sahib nay aaj tak apni beti ko PAKISTAN main kabhi apni beti kaha
Kitna Khush naseeb leader hay Subah Sham jhoot bolt hay aur hamaiti kehtay hain
KOI NAWAN LAARA LA KE MAINU ROL JA