Myth about winning 1965 War

[muqawwee123]

Re: Myth about winning 1965 War

@phoenixdesi

Muqawwee/Sach
you guys are confusing 2 issues.

why the wars in 65 and 71 started? what were political implications? what were repercussions? who gained how much? these topics have been discussed in detail on these pages and there any many guppies who are open minded enough to look into these debates objectively. i am the first one to admit we made many political blunders. and yes 65 war was a result of mindless military operation Gibraltar in kashmir. Kindly note that bhutto was a big supporter of operation Gibraltar.

but regardless of why the war started and what we gained out of it, another dimension is that did our army put a brave show in 65 war? now that is a totally different topic. and yes our army and brave jawans put a great show, scarified lives and stopped an enemy who was 7 times bigger. no one shd disrespect their sacrifices.

and today is a day when we are paying respect to those saheeds. do we need to discuss all blunders right today? do we need to declare maliciously today that pakistan lost the war miserably? we have 364 days to do all this…but no, for some people, you have to discuss all negative things right today.

like i said before, timing is everything, you dont go to a funeral and then start telling all bad things about the deceased one right there.

phonex bhai

My objection for the mentality, who promote rosy picture of wars, when in fact no one got any benefit from any including 1965 war, which we glamourise. I was surprised to see a morning show yesterday, where an anchor was asking 6-7 years old children ‘hamara dushman kon hai’? and children (in army uniform) replied ‘India’. Is this justified celebration of sacrifices?

By the way, call me what anyone likes (from traitor to xenophobic to racist), but the fact is this time army is in position to glamorise this event more because finally they got balls to address fitnas created by themselves. Otherwise, you never saw such celebration (including gift of two days double sawari ban in Karachi) on Defence day. On one side you are celebrating the victory to defeat 7 times powerful enemy 50 years ago, and on other side you need to ban double sawari to celebrate the same. lols at such victories.

BTW, its more about glamourising current army chief in the name of celebrating 1965 war. The whole clifton area from Teen Talwar to Parke Tower is full of pictures of Rahil Sharif under the slogans ‘1965 ke heroes ko salam’. If you go ahead a little ahead, you will come to DHA where lies the disputed land for which Justice Jawad might want to sing today ‘ae watan ke sajeele jawano, saare raqbe tumhar liye hain’.