Re: My official stance on Musharraf
I believe this cartoon in Washington Times elicited a strong protest from Pakistan (rightly so) and spins Roman’s point.
http://images.washtimes.com/photos/full/20050506-010309-5093.jpg
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Mushy has worked very hard to get where he has reached Romeo...in the beginning the world and the Injuns hated him...the average paki thought hey this guy makes sense and he's gonna really deliver for once...
5 Years on The world and the Injuns love him and your average Pakistani isn't too impressed with him anymore...so like I said..he has worked very hard...
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As one of my average pakistani friend from Faisalabad just recently told me that President Musharaf is “Ay tay her welay gallan kerda rhenda ay” (he just keeps on talking and talking).
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Zakk, tell me one thing. What he's doing now that he could have not done just by being chief of the army alongside with an elected Prime minister like Nawaz Sharif or anyother for that matter? He has worked hard only for himself. He brutalized the civilian government by taking pangays like Kargil and Kashmir after which he took over and 'resolved' all the tension between India and Pakistan by extending hand of friendship? Wasn't Nawaz Sharif doing the same thing? Actually his resolution with India was more pro-Paksitan than Musharraf's.
But that's just Musharraf. I blame alot of evils that exist in Pakistan now on Military rulers. The most imporant one is the elite mentality. Pakistan has a long standing history of military government. The rule has always yielded power and money and disciplined control of masses because of the nature of this body (as in militiary discipline submission to authority). This long standing tradition of money, power, and totalitarian discipline goes a long way with people living in such a society. It's deep rooted. People get used to feeling "protected" and think in a certain short-term way of a nation that lacks socio-political awareness and ambitions.
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is it true that punjabis dont like musharraf because he is a muhajir in army? kinda odd though. (apparently usually punjabis are mostly involved in millitary stuff according to some uncles).
nevertheless, i heard karachi has never been this peaceful under any previous governments.
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Karachi had more troubles due to Zia's ch***pas. And yes, Zia was Punjabi. But this got nothing to do with Punjabis or Mohajirs. Yes, a lot of Mohajirs do like Musharraf for the sole fact that he's one of them which is again clearcut ch***pa.
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jeez, u cud’ve said that without cursing. i didnt mean to offend anyone. i was just curious since i heard a conversation among old uncles once.
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How can you say anything of substance without cursing? 
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Only the not-so-enlightened mohajirs like Musharraf. Otherwise, those with even a wee bit of enlightenment do not like or support him.
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When Ganja, mota, paindu attacks the Judiciary thats all fine cause its done by the democratically elected Punjaabi rite? When Ganja calls Zia Ul Haq his daddy, thats fine cause he probably had somethin to do with his birth....in politics....when Benazir Has her brother killed, hey thats all fine cause she was after all elected...when zardari goes on his 10%+ rampage hey thats all fine ....cause hey is the DOG...the Man...elected representative of the people...When deraanged mullas attack ppl for particiapting in a marathon...well thats all fine, cause they are the elected reps...the Dogs...the Man...when women are not allowed to vote in swabi and mardan, well thats all fine cause its all in the name of democracy, and all those mullas are just fine lookin Dogs...Sunni's killin shia, shia killin sunni...hey who are we to complain...its all in the good name of democracy....
When an elected President attacks EE-RAK thats fine cause he was elected representative....he aint no Dog, he is the DOG...The Man
When the poodle jumps and bites on his master scommand, he aint the kutta he is the DOG...cause he was after all populalry elected....
When crazed Adolf Hitler starts killing and massacring people...well he aint no Kutta....he is the DOG...the Man...cause he was after all populalry elected...
Whencrazed Hindu fanatics attack and demolish Babri Masjid, thats all ok cause it was done by democrats (led by Advani)...hey aint no kutta....he is the DOG...The Man...cause after all he is elected rep....
So is there a special liscence you get once you are elected...to screw, destroy, kill, genocide....you know the things well educated, elected representatives do???
GODDAMNIT!! There must be somethin wrong with all those people who think Pakistan deserves better, better than the crap we have and had....now we have you to sermonize who is to live and who has to die...yeah..you'r the Dog...
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I see what you are saying. Not a big deal, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
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fartguru, what are you smoking? Ok, don't answer that.
Where did I say it's ok for one and not the other? But militiary gotta stop interfering with the civilian mess. Bad or worse, those are elected politicians and unless awam starts owning up to their own mess to choose the wrong ones there is no way out. But who the f is military to come in between?
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Phew..we finally have Roman's stand of Mush. I guess now we just have to wait for Rani to return.
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So u like making these nonsensical posts cause that is the only way u can get off…
Who the F said that military sud or is permitted to interfere in country affairs? U seem to be fantasizing with your inflated Musharraf doll…better take your face out of his…
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Ok, of all the insults that can be thrown towards Musharraff, calling him doll is the most eeww'ing one.
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A little too overboard, but shouldn't we know why?
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You're right Lajo. You should.
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Whoever thinks that Zia or Musharraf are Punjabis, need to get some extra courses in geography and history. Both are mohajirs.
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lol Faisal bhai. Mojahirs can be Punjabees too.
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Stretching Punjab's boundries to Delhi, now? Well, ok... no problem! :D
And Zia was born in Indian Punjab... in the city of Jalandhar.