Rite now I just happen to read my nick and here is what i translated.
Here it goes…
This specific group of non-believers( non-muslims) always coming here on this forum and attack islam/question islam with there pathetic posts. They are NEVER trying to learn Islam but withthe twist of the words, they are always trying to disgrace Islam, one way or the other. There are couple of people, if you see their history of posts you will be shocked to see that 80% of their posts are Anti-muslims.
Any way, as said above, for all of the (non-muslims) who participate actively in our Quranic/Hadiath posts, Please respect them as they are very dear and holy to us, If NOT understand my signature, it might help.
Islam is a road for us, there is an end to this life and we believe in it.
SO
There’s always sumthing waiting at the end of the road,if you are not willing to see what it is then, you probably shouldnt be out there in the the first place.
So, if you dont believe in what a muslim believes, dont come with your hatered notes. Try to respect us YOU DONT HAVE TO AGREE WITH US. And if our posts really bother you then you shouldnt be out there with us, in the first place.
Peace
-Salman
I know i wil be critized for this so BRING IT ON !!!
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*Originally posted by SalmanNY: *
Rite now I just happen to read my nick and here is what i translated.
Please respect them as they are very dear to us otherwise understand my nick it might help.
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Brother SalmanNY, please explain a little further what do you mean by the above? What does your nick mean and what is the translation?
Also, if this thread was meant to be a feedback then please post them in Feedback Forum. We dont want to be opening threads specifically for a war of words with those that dont agree with us.
Umm, may be you are right but all i am saying is that ( actually requesting ) to all the non-muslims, who mostly join our posts ( which they are MOST welcome to do so) respect our religious beliefs. They are MOST welcome to question them at any given day. BUT with some respect and courtsey, as i have seen so many of non-muslims playing with the values of Islam like a football. I as a muslim hate to see such and it really triggers the bad side of me.
As for my nick, it simply means that, for me as a muslim, Islam is like a road, and to the end of it, there is something ( qiyaamat, eternity etc), and i believe in that. If a Non-Muslim doesnt believe in it then he does not have to. He shouldnt be out there to bash our religious beliefs.
Umm let me know if i make any sense. Otherwise you are most welcome to do any thing with this thread.
-Salman
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*Originally posted by The Rainmaker: *
salman: u mean't signature, right?
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Ehhhh !!!!!!!! all this time i thought that i wrote signature...... yes i meant Singnature. Thanks a bunch for mentioning it. Greatly appreciated.
-Salman
Assalam Aleekum
Salman , i have noticed the weird POSTS too. But the thing is
ignore them. Yeah , the key word here is IGNORE.
But i appreciate that you brought up this issue.
The moderators are doing their job just fine. Everyone is welcome to ask questions and engage in discussions, that's the purpose here so there are no 'lesser' members based on religious preference or beliefs.
All those who persistently choose to violate forum and site rules and intentionally disrespect other's faiths will have their posts removed and/or their posting priveleges revoked. Moderators have and will continue to remove such postings and warn users who engage in these activities.
As conscientious members you are all welcome to report objectionable posts but please keep in mind the moderators may not always agree with your definitions of 'objectionable'.
I agree with Zulfi you should ignore the HAte messages against islam , the moderators are not consistent and not doing good job in this matter at all.
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We need to bear in mind here that this is a Pakistani board and rules aren't implemented according to various differing versions of Sharia. So, although there might well be people coming here to post 80% negative posts about Islam unless they break rules in doing so moderators won't necessarily take action on the basis that they are anti-muslim alone.
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....the **moderators* are not consistent and not doing good job in this matter at all.
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The moderators are trying to do the best job they can at being unbiased in a Forum that is not extremely easy to moderate. We simply want to ensure everyone gets an equal opportunity to air their views. As and when things appear inappropriate, we edit them as quickly as our schedules permit. It's not the best Forum I admit, but we're also humans and infallible. Moderators will continue to work on that Forum to make it better, Insha'Allah, but please try to realize we ARE trying to do the best that we can with a difficult Forum with so many diverse beliefs.
Baba G, I partially agree with your above post. IMO, the moderators of at least Religion forum should be very strict and should not let any body make a joke out of islam. Mods, of religion froum should be very close to islam in order to understand islam and its greatness.
I will give you an example, PCG is the mod of Political and “Religious Images”. If you remember, there was a big issue with the biggest mosque in islam and all. Though the issue was taken care of with marginal lines, BUT a person who is so excited about fashion and clothes and other things, how can she/he possibly understand the respect of Prophet Mohammad :saw: and defend Islam ? ( and NO, clothes and fashion does NOT mean that a person is non-islamic , BUT i am also reffereing her knowldge about islam in her posts )
I dont run this show neither i want to, but all i can do is give me feedback and i am sorry it is never twisted in hidden words.
If it was described as Islamic Forum rather than Religion Forum you would have a point. The job of a moderator on these forums is primarily to moderate impartially, not ‘defend Islam’.
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**Mods, of religion froum should be very close to islam in order to understand islam and its greatness.*
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Which Guppy gets to decide whether or not the moderators of the Religion Forum are "very close" to Islam? Can anyone else read into someone's heart - I thought that power rested with Allah alone?
Believe me, the moderators of that Forum just want to be fair to everyone. I have been called everything from Shia to Sunni to Christian to Hindu to Muslim, by different Guppies who assumed I must be one of the above based upon how I was moderating 'their' comments 'only'. The moderating of that Forum is not taken lightly, I can promise you that. If any of you have specific, constructive ideas about how you would like to improve the quality of that Forum, hey I am all ears. Drop me a pm and discuss it with me via pm if you want. But please never try to judge how close or not we are to Islam because I feel that that is an aspect only Allah is Aware of.
Lets face it Xtreme, 99.99% discussion in the religion forum is about Islam, Hadiat, Quran. All i want to say is the religion forum should be handeled by those who know Islam more than an avergage person, because that is the by far THE MOST discussed topic.
Latley I think mods of the forum are doing a good job by keep it clean. NO COMPLAINTS. THANKS A BUNCH to the mods.
Just a suggestion… as i mentioned before, there was a big issue with the use of :saw: with another prophet and all and then the biggest mosque, which was handled by marginal lines( that thread was posted in Image gallery)… In my opinion whenever it comes to religion and especially when it comes to islam, Considering the sensitivity of the topic a mod which knows more details of islam should step in and make decisions from there on. If one is the mod of fashion forum, and then something comes about the religion you cant expect from that specifc mod to make a better decision than a person who would know more about religions and specially about islam. Its like a guy who only knows how to ride a bicycle and you are telling him to fly a rocket.
If something gets posted outside the religion froum about islam, IMO it is not dealt fairly to avoid any problems it simply gets deleted hence, killing the whole purpose of discussion forum like gupistan.
We're all equal in the eyes of Allah and no one can be certain whose Iman or knowledge of Islam is more, or correct.
We're not here to judge each other, but to participate in discussions and share our views and knoweldge. What would be the point of having one 'authority' to end all discsussions by providing their 'rulings' on the issue du jour?
In the end it's all about opinions, some more qualified than the other.. and as adults we're all capable and free to pick and choose the reasonings which appeal the most to our intellect.
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*In my opinion whenever it comes to religion and especially when it comes to islam, Considering the sensitivity of the topic a mod which knows more details of islam should step in and make decisions from there on. If one is the mod of fashion forum, and then something comes about the religion you cant expect from that specifc mod to make a better decision than a person who would know more about religions and specially about islam. Its like a guy who only knows how to ride a bicycle and you are telling him to fly a rocket. If something gets posted outside the religion froum about islam, IMO it is not dealt fairly to avoid any problems it simply gets deleted hence, killing the whole purpose of discussion forum like gupistan.
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Thank you for your pm. Thank you also for your compliment that I am doing an "excellent" job.
You are implying that a proper Moderator of the Religion Forum would know "more details of Islam". I am afraid this response puzzled me. If I am more knowledgeable about Islam, I would automatically be more tolerant towards others - because that is a principle of Islam. That is a principle which Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] practised himself. I don't see a contradiction or gap between being tolerant and 'knowing more about Islam', they go hand in hand - anyone who knows ANYthing about Islam, would be aware of its historical tolerance: think of Al Andalus, but moreover think of our Prophet's lifelong behaviour towards all groups of people, no exceptions included. The above response is quite puzzling to me, I am afraid, because a proper Moderator who genuinely understood Islam - would go out of her/his way to be respectful towards others because that is what Islam enjoins.
Fairness, justice, respect, tolerance - how are any of these contrary to Islam? In virtually every Surah of the Quran, we are ordered to be just and fair - even, or especially, towards those who do us wrong. I remove and edit responses not based upon who is writing them, but based upon how (ir)relevant they are, and whether or not they are appropriate/offensive. You have three choices when someone posts something that you perceive of as being stupid or offensive - i) drop the moderators a pm to complain ii) engage yourself in that thread and politely expose the utter stupidity of the thoughts expressed iii) ignore the stupidity of those responses.
As Baba G stated, we are not here to judge anyone - let Allah do His job. Our 'job' is simply to respect others and learn as much as we are able to about this life; if someone disagrees with us particularly where personal faiths and beliefs are concerned, then oh well - what can be wiser than this Quranic ayat, Lakum deenukum waliya deen?
Hell and i have wasted quite a time thinking whats hidden in word “Salman”