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^
The first question that came to my mind too.
Why not karachi? Why in canada? She can find good rishtas in Pakistan too.
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Because she wants her here :halo:
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i wasnt talking about you :)
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:o oh my god.
im such an idiot…SORRY guys I didnt mean any of you three (Desimunda, fraudia and faizy are all nice guys)…the person I meant was some1 else!!!
im so stupid I confused DesiMunda for Shoaib (hope i got the right name this time) -u know that kid from USA who comes to cafe with his whole clan to recite some stupid rap songs. Im sorry DesiMunda 
I havent been on GS for a while so im having difficulty with rememebering whos who 
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I don't know if this has been said or not because I've not read the thread..
What you could do is casually mention her khoobiyaan to an aunty who has a son or grandson who could be a prospective husband for the girl, you can also look through the photo album with them or a home video one day and comment on her good personality and her skills when her pic shows up, you can mention that she is kanwaari but don't sound too desperate to marry her off, they'll start assuming nasty things.
Best of luck.
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Yes.....those are all good ideas Prince. Thank you for your input.
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be careful woman … all these qualities can kill ure chance of finding a spouse for ureself 
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^ Muzna is already married so aint doin jack to her "chance"
issi liye kehtay hain pehlay baat tolo phir bolo
ab gir gaya na joke apnay face par flat acchanak..
tsk tsk
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:o thats what i get for being an ex-mod of cafe 
j/k it’s all good…
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Canada becayse larka kamao pot hona chahiyeh, that's called securing one;s future.
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I respect all the MODS and ex-Mods
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Salam to you Muzna...About your cousins plans to get an MBA and then work for a while... Couple of things to note:1) In a country like Canada... an MBA does not mean anything... you really have to have the work experience to get even a quality job. An MBA really teaches you to be a good manager... however as far as securing a job... Canada is all about who you know... so she will never get the kind of work oppurtunity coming from a country with a Pakistani Fobby accent.... you guys may know of some exceptions but in a place like toronto there are plenty of Phd's driving taxi cabs!!!!2) Its sad that she is looking for someone with at least a Masters (i think thats a load of crap)... you automatically dwindle alot of potential and very good candidates.3) She should look for a nice guy in pakistan...Course we all know that every pakistani gal doesnt want to hang around in pakistan... that part i actually understand. The same is true for gals in china, india, vietnam.... if you hold a foreign citizenship you already got a heads up.
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Okay....for all of you folks that are getting your undies in a knot because I am looking for a rishta for my cousin here in Toronto. Go back and read the whole thread. I though I did a pretty clear job of explaining why we are looking here.
As far as rishtay in Karachi are concerned.....she has many. One very strong one within the family even. I think I mentioned this fact somewhere in the thread too.
I was in Karachi for about three months and had the opportunity to attend several weddings. There was not one wedding we went to where both she and her sister were not "pounced upon" by aunties, etc.
For those of you that are suggesting we are looking for someone that will "kamao". Grow up. We do not believe in forming unions for the sake of financial security. These kinds of things are all in the hands of Allah. One minute you could have it all and the next He may decide to take it all away.
I haven't closed the door on anyone, or made any insinuations that all the criteria must be met. If there is someone that is exceptional in one area then perhaps she will choose to overlook the other requisites.
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I know several “Fobs” doing exceptionally well in Canada.
as far as work experience goes, graduates with canadian accents are not born with work experience..they get it somehow.
Canada is not the only country where who you know matters, ita matters everywhere
and yes while there are plenty of PhDs driving cabs in Canada, the questions remains, what did they do their PhD in, where did they do their PhD, how well are they networking with the right people in their field, how do they present themselves, how willing they are to take on a role below their experience level just to get canadian experience and build contacts, what is the outlook for the field in which they have done their PhD i.e. supply vs demand of qualified candidates.
Yes it is tough to get started but its not impossible. Just yesterday, a good friend of mine was telling me that this (USA) is teh land of opportunity because in his own words, he has no US education, has a fobby accent has been in the country for 5 years only, and prior to coming here his experience was only in pakistan, yet he is on the partner track in a big 4 accounting firm.
while, I also have a friend who is older than me, got his MBA from a not-so-hot university while I was in undergrad. This guy has never held a single corporate job, the other desis of his group are a mix, while some have done very well in their career. of the people who did their MBAs with him One is a professor at a major university, one is a senior director at an I/T firm, three decided to open their own businesses…nothing major Pizza shops, gas stations, GNC etc. This guy now works at one of these stores that one of his college buddies owns.
so…its not all doom and gloom and its not all dollars growing on trees. the truth si somehwre in between. Why are there recent immigrants thriving in Canada, and there are others that are not. While the country and economy plays a role in it, it plays the same role for everyone..why is it that soem do well and some dont. It must also have something to do with the candidates as well.
sorry muz, took yer thread in a comp diff direction.
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No apologies needed.
You made a very valid point. I've often thought of saying this to those who complain, but I avoid it thinking I'll be hurting their feelings. Although the subject should have nothing to do with feelings.....it's just a matter of reality.
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Salam to you guys...
MrFraudia... thank you for your sincere input on the matter. I cannot contest anything that youve written since hey its all personal experience. Truth of the matter is... and i kinda knew my response was somewhat inflammatory ... I owe Muzna an apology for making the very negative remark about her cousin not being able to make anything out of an MBA...
I do stand by my comments however... im sure the IT director that Fraudia is talking about had alot more than just an MBA to offer... probably was tech savvy or something... If you bring nothing to the table youre not gonna land an MBA job! Corporate culture consists predominantly of middle age white caucasian males... thats not to say that loads of Indians havent made it thru... but like i said its not just the MBA... its alot more that they bring to the table (like tech. ideas etc.)... Plus corporate US rewards people of excellence much more so than canada where your networking ability and nepotism are more the rule than the exception.
And Fraudia... to verify what im saying... all you have to do is go to Pearson Airport Terminal 2 on a Weekday morning... notice the ethnicities... and i think you'll catch my drift.
Salam.
Again Muzna... i do apologize to you! these remarks are not meant to be a put down on your cousin... she's probably a great person and hey if she is selective about whom she wants to marry i say more power to her... Cause if there is ever a time to be selective its before you marry ... cause who you marry is without a doubt the most important decision of your life... So i sincerely hope your cuz. lands someone nice!
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Yet the offices of Oracle in Montreal are full of desi techies. Major financial institutions and fortune 500 companies have desis in high positions, and not all desis are abcds there.
The guys who is a director in I/T company is tech savvy actually did a dual MBA in marketing and MIS but that was used as an example. There are many I/T diploma holders in call center jobs as well..Look on GS and see how desis who were not born in US or Canada but moved here are doing. Ask around.. talk to Azkar, Faisal , Umar, Kaleem, Madhanee and Pinstriper (well they are banned I think), ask Ehsan..Pakistani Abroad, 5Abi, AhmadJee and see for yourself how well people can do in their careers.
I can go to pearson airport and observe, how about you call U of T and McGill and ask what their placement rate is for foriegn MBA grads
Yeah there are pkenty of educated unemployed desis in Canada, I can bet the number is less than those in pakistan..
In the end you are correct that its not just the MBA, successful people bring a lot more to the table. But I have never met an unemployed mcgill MBA or an unemployed harvard MBA. I have not seen an unemplpyed LUMS or IBA MBA in pakistan but the guy who got his MBA from the university that was opened in teh top floor of the bungalow across jummah bazaar wiull ahve a tough time..especially if his people skills and contacts are weak. If you did not go to one of the top unis, then you have to try harder, network more and struggle a bit more, but that is something everyone does..some just ahve to do it more.
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aj kal rishta milna kitna mushkil hogaya hay :(
i think i should so some bandobast for myself :D
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Salam
Thank you for responding Fraudia. I believe that you and I agree on pretty much the same thing so there isn't much to add. I don't want you to get the impression that I think there are no successful pakistani people or that being successful and being pakistani are mutually exclusive. One last thing... I dont think i can take you up on the call to McGill mainly because ive already spent 6 years there and im well aware... McGill's school of business MBA program is heavily advertised in places like china (partly because they believe that many of the emerging Asian economies require MBA's but also cause it brings more money. McGill has the advantage over Yankee schools in that their programs are comparatively cheaper).
Attia Im sorry you are having trouble finding a rishta.... Perhaps you should consider being a 'free agent' and look for yourself... and let the chips fall from there! I wonder why is it that so few rishta's exist.... is it true for gals and guys or is it more of a guys market?