Mutah in theory and practice

[Code_Red]

Re: Mutah in theory and practice

@humhaipakistani

Yes it is different, the contact would be the same as is normal nikah or should be. See leaving the temporary marriage thing aside for a bit. This nikah versus rukhsati issue highlights my point with culture dictating the outcome. When the nikah is recited before rukhsati, islamically and legally even in the pakistani courts, the couple are husband and wife. Then tradition kicks in to prevent couples from having contact. Why, I don’t understand.

Lets leave aside the nikah vs rukhsati thing, and concentrate on topic at hand, Actually i liked that idea of replacing ‘engagement’ with mutah contract and allowing couple to meet freely :k:

What i understand from your earlier post that this mutah marriage is going to translate into a normal marriage as basically the couple and families are looking forward to it. Now for me this mutah is actually as noble as nikah becaue the intentions are noble.

Now you may name it mutah but in true spirit it is not a mutah, because the parties are interested in lasting relationship, and not a temporary one which is the very motive behind a proper nikah so it is in effect it is a regular nikah
Ina mal aamal-o-bin’niyaat — Actions depend on intentions ?
Do you agree ?

There is no enticement. There is no romance. It boils down to sad harsh realities of life. A previously married woman is likely to be in her mid-twenties, early thirties at least. You know how its like when a girl reaches 24/25 in our culture and its probably the same other cultures too. The prospects for marrige go sharply downhill if she’s divorced or has kids. Temporary marriage may be seen as an alternative which places little or no responsibility on her, with both partners having the freedom to draw up the contract as they like, which is not the case in a permanent marriage. For men too, there is a certain freedom, one of the big issues for guys arranging marriage these days is the financial concern and so they might for example delay marriage for that reason. In a permanent marriage, the guy is bound by law to provide for his wife. Not so in a temporary marriage where it again depends on the contract drawn up. I don’t think Mutah can replace permanent marriage. But perhaps it is a good alternative.
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Sadly, you are advocating an arrangment which grants open license to men to exploit women at will.

Islam made it obligatory for man to provide resources for his wife, in mutah man is free from this obligation

Islam made it obligatory for man to raise his offsprings *( and his wife’s children )*provide them shelter, education and good care; in mutah man is free from this obligation Why ?

Islam gave right of inheritence to wife ( 8th part of dead husband property ) , in mutah there is hardly a chance that wife may get anything beside dower ( the claim from ravage in his first post is a technically remote posibility, almost impossible becase a wife can only claim inheritence when husband dies, and mutah is a temporary arrangement to begin with)

[Code_Red]

Re: Mutah in theory and practice

Now I being a selfish muslim man would be happy with these goody good arrangements for the sake of pleasure , but ravage is a sensetive muslim who feels the women are not a pleasure toy, rather a companion, responsible and trust worthy partner in bringing up family nurturing love and pleasure in this world.

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Re: Mutah in theory and practice

@Code_Red

Now I being a selfish muslim man would be happy with these goody good arrangements for the sake of pleasure , but ravage is a sensetive muslim who feels the women are not a pleasure toy, rather a companion, responsible and trust worthy partner in bringing up family nurturing love and pleasure in this world.

is anyone forcing women to do mutah? is mutah only for the sake of pleasure?

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@Sheraz CT

is anyone forcing women to do mutah? is mutah only for the sake of pleasure?

it literaly means pleasure, and practically it is pleasure for 'man' because he is relieved from his duty in a very halal way !

I am aware that many aspect of our culture are not very islamic, but I can gladly say that when our culture (shias in Pakistan) condemns mutah it is actually doing somthing which is inline with the spirit of Islam and common snese.

I would sound ridiculous if I speak on top of my lung about the rights of women in Islam and at the same time I advocate Mutah as perfectly acceptable practice.
Infact i would be a hypocrite who has conveniently burried his concience deep in sand of bigotry.

From Shia perspective ....

Mutah is not a sunnah of prophet muhammad (pbuh) at all ! infact he married widows and divorced women mostly ! similarly Hazrat Ali karam allah wajhu married widow of Hazrat Abu bakar siddique and took the responsibility of bringing up his children.
Nikah is masnoon (liked) sunnah of holy prophet (pbuh) and according to a popular hadees 'talaq' is the most disliked "halal" thing in front of Allah.

Why ? just because Allah does not like destruction of families and want stable and lasting marraige as an institution. Allah does not like divorce !

And what about a contract in which divorce is the intrinsic part of agreement ?